I was not really around for the old days but there simply isn’t 30 pages of actual BO analysis to discuss for most weekdays. I assume the thread was in large part people joking and shooting the shit with friends, which happens on telegram now instead. Reddit also cannibalizes a lot of total BO
BO recovery won’t necessarily lead to social recovery.
Just saw The Bad Guys, pretty fun. Funny that the 5 promising weeks in a row from March April are ending up:
Lost City hit 100M
Morbius miss
Sonic hit
Dumbledore miss (barring shenanigans)
Bad Guys hit
DS2 is missing a billion because it wasn’t the big event people wanted, but also because the execution of what it was instead was poor. If you had delivered a better small movie that would have led to good enough legs.
A 45 day window wouldn’t cut anywhere close to 300M off of any movie except maybe Avatar 2, cmon now.
400 definitely wasn't locked after Batman wknd 2, never quite understood that chatter. 500 is actually locked here -- even following sniper gets there pretty comfortably and sniper semi-collapsed after d10.
I think the only adjusted 100M+* opens with a better drop than F2 are:
Avatar -2% (lol)
How 4he Grinch stole Christmas -7 (Thanksgiving)
TLK 1994 -16
TPM -21% (wed open, mdw 2nd)
Two towers -21 (wed open, Xmas holidays)
JP1 -23%
Batman -26
Monsters Inc -27
American Sniper -28
Incredibles -29
Rotk -30 (wed open, Xmas holidays)
Independence Day -30
Nemo -34
* Using 2019 ATP +10% again
2012-2019 is the golden era to me, but also the only era I really experienced directly. Post infinity saga has basically been the covid era. Will be interesting to see what defines the post covid 2020s
TGM’s success will definitely result in several attempts at imitation/replication. If they can also bring massive profits — then you’ve got a new trend. If they don’t, it’s just a one-off where the stars aligned.
This is the primary issue with the “just make a bunch of great movies” strategy.
Like, if that was on the table for a studios, certainly they would take it and be ecstatic. But historically that option tends to be… not actually an option.
Avatar may well be massively successful, but it has a 0% chance to break Hollywood out of a “ruthlessly milk the same IP for lots of sequels” trend. It’s a road that leads to avatar 6, avatar 17, whatever rather than to a new (or rather, old) paradigm.
This run is generating perhaps the most wishful thinking comments vis a vis industry trends I have EVER seen and I can’t quite tell to what degree people are being serious or just sort of taking a brief moment to talk about what they obviously *want* to happen as though it’s what will happen
I’m not talking about raw numbers either, but it’s not like impressiveness is the same as surprise level. If something is expected to do 20M and it does like 150M then that’s nice and all but it’s still just a medium sized movie at the end of the day.
And it’s not like TFA was *expected* to crush the #1 by 23% — also a pretty surprising run! Since JW I guess maybe:
TFA
JW
BP
TGM (with ~550)
NWH