charlie Jatinder

Also just realised today is Sunday and I am one day late in weekly update. Will be doing in a moment.

So I am gonna watch Gone With the Wind this week. Downloaded it today.

Finally watched it. Pretty great film for its time and quite grand too. Characters are pretty solid. Love this scene. And Loved her.

Avengers Franchise Avengers: Assemble: 191mn Avengers: Age of Ultron: 195mn Avengers: Infinity War: 301mn Avengers: Endgame: 392mn

After compiling Star Wars, I think its safe to assume that Titanic, Avengers: Endgame and Avengers: Infinity War are biggest Hollywood films since 1975 at least. Star Wars in its initial run had 209mn admits for $518mn gross, E.T. with $723mn should be around 225-250mn at max. Similarily Jaws should be 210-230mn. None of the Star Wars trilogy film even crossed 200mn most probably. Other than these, I don't think there's any other film even coming close to 200mn admits till 1993 Jurassic Park, with The Lion King (1994) coming very close at 193mn. I thought perhaps Independence Day has a chance, but in the end it fell short by some millions.

So I tried to do Star Wars, unlike other films tracking it won't be close to perfect but it is what it is. When I started, I only had Europe's big 4 admissions for original release and UK (gross only), Japan & Australia numbers, which though majority of the box office of the film but wasn't all. Also with no absolute clarity of what gross will be in European countries, it wasn't really helpful. Thankfully I found E.T. country wise numbers and had admissions numbers for Europe with me already, so that helped putting gross numbers for European markets. Also based on how other European countries did for E.T. relatively to Germany, France, Italy and Spain, was able to put gross estimates for rest of Europe. Similarily, got Brazil admissions numbers and estimated its gross taking E.T. reference. Accorded some gross to Latin America and basically left the residue as rest. For Domestic, I got the year wise gross and took NATO average ticket price + 10% as is the case with bigger films having higher ticket price than the average. That gave 124.3mn admissions for 5 years of releases. For Special Edition it was business as usual, as numbers are available for almost all countries, except a minor problem. After considering all, I have following results. Star Wars had 258mn admits worldwide of which 151mn are from USA/Canada. If you have any inputs to give, please do. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=2054284717

The Most Watched films Globally since 1997 Titanic: 404mn Avengers: Endgame: 394mn Avengers: Infinity War: 301mn Avatar: 287mn The Lion King: 245mn Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 235mn Furious 7: 225mn Jurassic World: 217mn Frozen II: 213mn The Fate of the Furious: 207mn

The Fate of the Furious also cross 200mn on expected grounds, with 207mn admits. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=497869436

Another 200mn admits in 90s could be Independence Day. Need to check.

Jurassic Park (1993) was almost same as Jurassic World with 214mn admits (including 15mn 3D re-release), the gross at Avengers: Endgame ticket rates being $1906mn https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=1056268254

Yeah in majority mature markets, Fellowship is bigger but I guess they will be in similar range only. Also shows, how even with same admissions in just span of 3 years, ER created that much gap in gross.

Yep. TFA outsold first two Avengers films.

Frozen 2 is another 200mn plus admits film with 213mn admits. The film is 10th film since 1997 to cross 200mn and 9th biggest ahead of Fate of the Furious. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=673514636

TLK data isn't available for Asia ,& Latin America. Even Europe is limited.

Didn't realise but India was actually 2nd biggest market for Jurassic Park & Titanic in admits though After Titanic 3D its China. Also Jurassic Park is certain 200mn as well. No point going before that. Will compile JP tommorow along with F2 & FF8.

The confirmed 200mn admits so far since 1997 in order of release. Titanic Avatar Furious 7 Jurassic World Star Wars: The Force Awakens Fate of the Furious (expected) Avengers: Infinity War Avengers: Endgame The Lion King Frozen II The bold ones are over 300mn. The Avengers at 193mn, is within margin of error to 200mn. Fate of the Furious is most likely to be over 200mn as well.

I was wondering if LoTR: RoTK might be over 200mn, well it fall quite short at about 175mn. As discussed above neither of Potter or prequel trilogy are likely to cross 200mn either. (Say Potter 8 was half of Avatar, that will be 145mn approx). https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=424252602 At Endgame rates, LoTR: RoTK will be at $1.61 bn.

Well I did Return of the King and it is 175mn (+/- 5%) giving roughly $6.5 ATP worldwide. Potter and Star Wars are huge in UK and Japan where ATP was $12.5 and $9. Even Germany was $8.65. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=117743446 Titanic did 370mn Approx in its first run grossing $1850mn Approx which work out $5 ticket price and it did huge in Asia where rates are very low, so I would take the normal Hollywood film price to be around $5.5-6 in 1999-2002, Potter did $975mn ($320mn in UK and Japan) & Phantom Menance did $924mn ($250mn in UK, Germany and Japan), accounting those they would be around 150mn each. Even without that hassle, say Potter was 52% of Titanic and Phantom Menance was 50%, which will roughly account to 170mn, or adjusting for inflation 155-160mn.

And yes, The King has something to say. With 245 million admits, The Lion King is the number five film so far in tracking since 1997. There's another King which may have say, will check that out tomorrow. However the gross at Avengers: Endgame rates is $1.83 Bn, which is less than The Force Awakens. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit?usp=drivesdk

Jurassic World, well just like Furious 7 I expected it to be par The Force Awakens but it fell quite short with a puny (@THUNDER BIRD) 215mn and adjusted gross of $1,730mn. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=816614926 Next Up - The Lion King PS. Seems like The Force Awakens may be in Top 5 since Titanic unless the King has something to say.

Furious 7 managed to beat The Avengers but will stay below The Force Awakens. The footfall count is 225 million. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TH-Ls41nH4q1ap1ZLLdtIL7ZvBZLUPNyCBnGymiERFE/edit#gid=1607645077 The order of footfalls and inflation & ER adjusted gross at Endgame ticket rate is. Titanic: 404mn ($3.48 bn) Avengers: Endgame: 393mn ($2.8 bn) Avengers: Infinity War: 300mn ($2.14 bn) Avatar: 286mn ($2.38 bn) Misc Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 231mn ($2.07 bn) Furious 7: 225mn ($1.59 bn) The Avengers: 193mn ($1.46 bn)

Next Up the Fast films.

The reason IMO was ER mostly making all 2007-2014 films look bigger than 2015-2019 biggies.

Yeah majority growth come in Asia but then Majority western countries have growth as well, which is highly unlikely for franchise film, as most franchise have their first film as highest footfalls, such as Potter, even LoTR in country like UK, Star Wars. Even in USA admission grew from 63mn to 83mn while in UK went from 6.5mn to 10.5mn.

Avengers: Endgame more than doubled the first film's footfalls worldwide, that's when the first film was supposedly peak of superhero genre. Unreal.