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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1625148295248064512?s=20&t=Oz-JQa8106HOcmijzQq9gg
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Alright, now you’re really pushing it. I watched Encanto a bunch of times, both in the UK and in the US. I’m on a bunch of animation forums, too. People liked the film, but there wasn’t the demand you’re talking about. No-one I tried to convince to go watch it said they were going to watch it online when it came out. They simply didn’t care. Streaming saved that movie.
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Toy Story is definitely their bigger franchise. Pixar as it is now wouldn’t exist now without it. Not only was TS3 first animated film to cross a billion, but TS4 — a completely unnecessary sequel — crossed a billion 9 years later, far past the series’s prime. I agree that they didn’t know what to do with Buzz, though.
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Hey, I hate Chapek as much as the next guy. He’s spineless and untrustworthy; but it’s funny that a lot of you think he’s some moustache-twirling villain who will take glee in the — unlikely — death of theatres. The general public for the most part doesn’t care, either; in fact, a lot of parents prefer the quicker releases to D+ (I’m not saying they’re right; it’s just the truth). Lightyear is a misfire, for sure, but all studios have those. It must have seemed like a safe bet — a spin-off of possibly the most popular character from Pixar’s biggest, most-iconic IP. Some have years and years of failures and still manage to survive. Pixar is doing fine. Animation as an art form has the most potential, even now. Its movies will be released in theatres, because straight to D+ releases cannot be sustained in the long run.
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Weekdays Thread (6/13-16) // 6.9m TG2, 13m JW:D Mon //
awkwardaardvark replied to EmpireCity's topic in Numbers and Data
4th best 4th weekend ever domestically? Jesus… That would be incredible. Not including American Sniper’s wide release, that would make it the 3rd best 4th weekend performance of all time. -
Alright, let’s calm down now. So long as the demand is still there and Dominion’s WOM is mixed, it’ll likely touch 600 million. Besides, if it even grosses only 500 million stateside, it’s crossing a billion. TG’s holds in markets where Dominion’s already been released are generally fantastic. International should be at atleast 520 million or so with SK.
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I don't see why everyone's already losing hope. It was always going to crater with the release of JW; but once the opening weekend of Dominion is over, the numbers will stabilise. That it has taken TG over 13 days to have its daily gross dip below 10 million — when Black Panther, which had a much higher opening and also insane WOM, dropped below 10 million on its 11th day — is massive. 625 million + domestic is still a go.
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That is just demonstrably untrue. Just in the south, there have been many hits this year. In Malayalam, Tamil, and Telugu. They made decent profits. You’re allowing a couple Bollywood flips to colour your view of the entire industry. And while highest grossers in Hollywood tend to be Marvel/Disney films, there are many films just this year that are proving that there’s an appetite for other types of films. The Lost City, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Dog, Top Gun: Maverick, etc.,
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You’re participating in a sort of thinking that a lot of people absolutely love to do: counting money you don’t have. Dune had 1.9 million households watch it on HBO Max. Fantastic! How many of those people would have taken the effort to go to the theatre, pay for an expensive ticket, and then nearly bankrupt themselves on concessions to watch a long, meditative adaptation of a 50+ year old Sci-fi book, when all that is needed to give it a shot at home is a click of the button? A fair few, but how many? Everyone agrees that releasing movies on streaming early affects box office gross. Randomly spitting out crazy figures like 200-300 million is just ridiculous.
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You’re comparing Bullet Train to the third film in a series. Come on. Why the hell are you fixating on the arbitrary 170 million number? All that was said was Bullet Train — an 85 million dollar film starring an A-lister and featuring other well-known actors — isn’t some niche film. if you want to be pedantic, try harder.