lol..its funny really. I have been to numerous comic conventions, i've been part of a bunch of comic forums where these characters are discussed indepth. And i absolutely promise you, i have never seen anyone dress up as the mandarin, or talk about a major comic arc involving him. Until 2 weeks ago, i have literally never seen anyone give a s*** about The Mandarin. Like Ever. So when i go onto SHH and i see the Mandarin Defense Council trying to protect the honor of this 'legendary iron man archenemy'..i'm at a loss for words..lol