Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. After the thanksgiving weekend of 2012, Skyfall did just over 60 Mill till the end of its run. QoS did 26 Mill in the same timeframe, and its legs were much weaker already. I'm expecting Spectre to settle somewhere in between these 2 numbers. With regards to Intl, UK should generate another 10 Mill. Japan maybe 20 Mill and throw in around 75 Mill in the rest of the markets till the end of it's run in 2016. That's my rationale for the 900 Mill figure. The biggest ? is how much Star Wars would affect this once it is out in a couple of weeks' time and I expect a significant impact and that unknown is what may tip the scales against SP.
  2. Approx 40 Mill from the US and 100 Mill plus from the rest of the world. I'd still wager that this will end up over 900 Mill.
  3. Knowing what you guys know about the Chinese market, what will MJ2 and Spectre likely end up at? Martian will probably kill these two by the end of this week?
  4. Obviously you have NO idea of what you're talking about. With the current domestic of $153 Mill and with Thanksgiving this week, are saying that the BO will generate an additional 30 Mill plus from here? Here's a toast to Mr. Clueless ---
  5. These chaps know what they're talking about when it comes to predicting how the Chinese box office goes. Spectre is a 'relative' disappointment in China in that this is not hitting even $100 Mill there, even after all that extensive promotion. To me this Chinese under performance effectively rules out a Billion $ box office WW for Spectre. Well, I don't think that it is a case if 'No one outside of NA' cares about the HG Franchise. The previous films did relatively well in Europe, but yes, they probably don't have as wide an audience as some of the better known Franchises. Plus this is a case of sequel fatigue kicking in. Lionsgate will still make money from this, maybe just not as much as they'd have wanted to.
  6. Early days yet and I do hope that MJ2 picks up as the weekend wears on.
  7. Lol..Can't agree more.
  8. It won't make a difference to the Wee Laddie MovieMaker's head; he's parked in the freezer with the notion that this is a big failure. Maybe it was the humour in the film that did him in.
  9. Spectre - 3.25 Mill (Up 34% from Monday) and Peanuts - 1.2 Mill (up 36%)
  10. Laddie, look above you and you will see the shining light that is me.
  11. Oh my god!! All is lost. It had a massive drop on Sunday and this will go down by 90% on Monday. With some prayers by the very many Bond supporters on this board, this may end up at $175 Mill. God (and board members) only can help Bond.
  12. China will do 100 mill plus and so, 600 mill is well within range.
  13. And the unreported numbers from France for the weekend was $14 Mill. Sony hasn't officially included this number in their International totals, but Hollywood Reporter has this mentioned.