Elessar
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1 hour ago, Noctis said:
We have yet to receive 4th weekend numbers?
As usual, we should get first numbers on sunday evening.
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8 minutes ago, Noctis said:
What have its weekend numbers been since release?
I know it had a $305m OS OW? What were the other weekends like?
2nd 168m
3rd 190m
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I'm officially apologizing for telling others what A2 can and can't do when in fact they have been closer to real numbers than myself on multiple occasions. Even though i got the gist right in that FRI bump is gonna be muted and FRI-to-WKND multiplier will be higher i still underestimated its ability to hold on to its audience, again. I'm eating humble pie.
Screw it, i'm jumping on the "this-might-actually-take-down-TGM" bandwagon! @IronJimbo @stuart360
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Just now, wildphantom said:
Opinions are wonderful things!!
At least we can all agree Avatar and its sequel wouldn’t get in a Spielberg Top 20, right?
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6 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
There isn’t one James Cameron film that would get in a top ten of Spielberg. He has never and will never take over him, and JC I think is a genius filmmaker.-
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Just now, stephanos13 said:
Can we see Avatar have it's final $20M+ day at the box office for this movie's run?
That would require a big bump. I doubt it.
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14 minutes ago, XXR the Conqueror said:
A2 looks like 11.25
Why sad face (not you, someone reacted to your post)? That would be a good number for A2. Hopefully, it doesn't go down...
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Dunno if the comparison is that interesting anymore now that R1 is in its rear mirror. I guess i like seeing R1 getting pummeled....
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1 minute ago, Krissykins said:
If I was him, I’d just focus on the third film. Or do we have to hear him talking about 4 and 5 for years?
I enjoyed The Way of Water, but he’s just turning into a pain in the arse.He will talk when he gets asked. How dare he?!
Jeez....
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1 minute ago, Krissykins said:
Jeez he sounds so grateful… not.
Why does he always come across as such a twat in his old age? Has he always acted like this?
If he feels forced to do them, and was hoping to escape them as the above suggests, don’t make them.
Obviously he's not being serious.
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20 minutes ago, stuart360 said:
The orig AVATAR jumped 118% on the same Friday. I'm not sure why people are giving A2 these relatively small Friday jumps from Thursday.
Look at how the top 10 movies increased on Jan 6 2017 (same calendar setup as today) and compare that to the top 10 when Avatar had that 118% bump (Jan 8 2010). It's really not that hard to understand. More people are off school / work this week (and in 2017) than they were in 2010.
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3 minutes ago, stuart360 said:
Its not like its going to be miles away.
Do you consider 6-8m miles away?
Anyway, it's all in good fun, we'll see soon enough who's closer.
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2 minutes ago, stuart360 said:
Yeah and without both Eve's, th 2nd and 3rd weekends would of been higher than the orig film.
Doubt 3rd weekend would have been much different. Sure, actual SAT was down but FRI and SUN were inflated and acted more like a SAT themselves.
3 minutes ago, stuart360 said:I think its a little unfair to expect the same drops when you open that much higher.
Tell that to people predicting 50m+ this weekend.
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15 minutes ago, stuart360 said:
A2 is almost certainly going to start having higher drops, and lower gains, compard to the first film for the rest of its run. If it grosses say 40mil this weekend, that will be the first weekend where its grossed clearly lower than the orig flm (2nd and 3rd weekends were similar levels, and thats with A2 having the disadvantage of Christmas eve and New years eev in its weekend numbers)
But at the smae time we have to remember than A2 has a 85mil lead over the first film at the same point, so it can afford to lose SOME pace.
700+mil is my personal target and i still feel it can do it.
But A2 had the huge advantage of opening 74% higher.
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37 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
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SAT 17.3m
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As long as it crosses 40m...
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Franglen did competently but is missing that magic "Horner" touch. There was some stuff particularly at the end that was pretty good but i felt like in a bunch of places music was kinda ordinary background noise instead of really elevating a scene, like the Banshee ride in the original for instance.
Oh, well, i didn't really expect anybody to do James Horner as well as James Horner. He was one of a kind in my opinion. RIP.
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6 hours ago, oenri said:
Yet all this data couldn't predict an increase in the 3rd weekend and a possible increase today lol We dont know how much it will do yet, but it clearly will not drop similar to Rogue One
Again, many films do increase on New Years weekend with this calendar configuration. We just didn't expect a film of A2's size to do it.
No, it will not drop like R1 on its 4th weekend, nobody is expecting it to.
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15 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
Of course it matters what day it is, holidays, all the jazz.
But where were these experts last weekend? Historic data can only take you so far when venturing into new groundWell, A2 isn't really doing anything new to be honest, many films have done the same with that calendar setup, just not any film of this size (small sample size, though).
Had it opened to $200m as some pundits expected it would have probably performed much closer to R1 legs wise. I guess Cameron is a better marathon runner than he is a sprinter (duh!).
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3 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
The problem is that they're getting paralysed by analysis of historic data. They actually have great expertise but it works against them, they've built a box in their head of whats possible and what is not.
Nah, experts were pretty good in predicting last few days based on historical data. We are talking nuances here.
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7 minutes ago, oenri said:
Literally no one was saying today would increase until now, this shows the strength of this movie. It could jump much higher, 45-50M weekend. This entire site keeps underestimating james cameron.
Hold your horses, Thursday is still up in the air. And it could reach 45m the way i described it if Thursday is strong.
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35 minutes ago, MikeQ said:
I guess the question is how much does it outperform Rogue One's weekend pattern - and namely, how big will the Friday jump be (or not be)? That's the big question mark for me. Are the runtime and PLF factors pushing more business to during the week, or is it more likely to jump higher on the weekend because of this?
I believe friday jump will be similar to R1's due to the reasons mentioned (PLF inflating midweekdays and some people still having off especially in Canada where A2 is doing better comparably). But internal weekend multiplier might be a bit better due to runtime.
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I miss the 20m+ days...
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M3GAN W33K3ND THR3AD | ACTUALS - DADDY CAM3RON'S MAGNUM OPUS 45.8M | DOCUM3NTARY ABOUT KILL3R DOLL 30.4M | ORANG3 PANTH3R 13.5M
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I'm not even that hung up on whether it beats TGM tbh, i just wan't it to cross 700m. It has a nice ring to it.