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19 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Pacsci like Pacific science center?
Yes.
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So, do I first want to see it at the Cinerama or on the PacSci IMAX.
(also, is the double feature going to happen?)
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2 hours ago, belblazer said:
Not to mention the WW1 plot and the fact that it was the first CBM with a female superhero in a leading role since Supergirl (1984), and we didn't know how people would react to it.
Electra and Catwoman both came out since. The conventional wisdom was that superheroines couldn't sell, rather than bad movies don't sell.
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I think most of the effects on movies have already been felt. As noted, mid-level movies have largely died off in theaters, leaving it to be a tentpole field most of the time.
I also don't think that the release of Disney+ is going to form doom for Netflix. Disney is of a very specific mindset, and that mindset is "franchise". The high profile original content is going to either be MCU or Star Wars, which... doesn't really affect much. Netflix and Amazon and HBO will continue to generate their own original content.
I see two things eventually happening. One, the services that exist within the same corporate umbrella (HBO Max and DC Universe; Disney+ and Hulu) will eventually be consolidated. (The exception to this will probably be content for a specific audience; I don't expect ESPN+ to be folded in.) Two, there will be increased perpetual exclusivity. Disney films will only show up on Disney+, and WB films will only show up on HBO. The other studios, which may or may not have their own efforts in the mix, will probably partner up with an existing platform. Or get bought out by the same. I could easily see Amazon and Apple just outright buying a studio, if only for the guaranteed back catalogue. Apple may need to do this, because of a relative lack of its own content.
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7 hours ago, MrGlass2 said:
I think that Zootopia had a fantastic, leggy run in China after a modest opening. That is why WOM matters so much there especially for animated movies.
That kind of breakout is unlikely to happen for a sequel if they didn't like Frozen. On the other hand, the Chinese market has grown a lot since 2013 so it should do much better than that.
IIRC, Frozen's run in China was also leggy. It looked extremely disappointing at first, but it held onto modest business and was even extended beyond the original 30 day release window. I don't believe there was any indication that audiences disliked the film, but rather that it was something of an unknown that still got people interested.
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3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:
I am curious why you think so. That had 13-14 years of anticipation and was superhero based animation. This is female driven movie with a talking snowman. Not sure it will play as much 4 quad like I2.
I could be wrong. Its PS has not even started and so I will compare this to TLK when it starts. That had higher previews than I2 and so would be good comparison. @captainwondyful I am sure has more data to compare.
At least shows have started to appear at plexes but so far its limited(1/5th of current SW preview show count and 1/3rd of Joker final show count) . Nothing screams uber previews. But I will wait for PS to start before providing better perspective. I have a month of data across 2 chains and I do have TLK previews data for Empire 25.4 quad isn't necessary for big previews. A dedicated fanbase is. Relative to OW, female driven films with a large fanbase tend to have extremely large previews. Look at Twilight. Look at TFioS. Look at Hunger Games. Look at Harry Potter. Frozen has a fanbase on That Level. The previews are going to be massive, but it will look a little frontloaded over the weekend.
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14 hours ago, cookie said:
Not sure why it'd be that much more frontloaded than Incredibles 2. A $75m OD would secure 180+ IMO
Bigger previews. I2 did 18.5. F2 should be bigger.
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4 hours ago, fabiopazzo2 said:
1.6B?? Mmm i dont know dude
It is a bit conservative, yeah.
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75m Fri
55m Sat
40m Sun (170m OW)
15m Mon
20m Tue
25m Wed
18m Thu (248m Week)
42m Fri
40m Sat
25m Sun (355m 10-Day) (107m 2nd) (150m 5-day)
683m DOM
948m OS
1.631b WW
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Went to a Target yesterday and there was a whole section of Frozen 2 stuff, right near the entrance
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Ah, well. Being busy didn't leave me time to go through the whole decade, so I didn't submit.
Also I seem to have lost what I did get.
IAC, Network was my #1. I think The Castle of Cagliostro would have ended up #2.
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3 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:
About these test screenings, they are exactly to see what can be better and what is working.
If a reliable person say the movie have a mixed reception on test screening a month before the release i would be worried, otherwise is normal, they have 7 or 8 months ahead to make corrections.
That said, yeah it would be nice if Warner act like Disney and stop these public screenings to avoid plot leaks and all this drama that happen everytime. We have months until the releases and we already can find info about the plots from both WW1984 and BOP.
I wouldn’t be, necessarily. They still might not be at final cut and want to see what works. Heck, they might go with a subpar cut just to be sure they haven’t missed anything that might work from it.
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I'll see if I can get this done. I've been overwhelmed by schoolwork
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8 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
I say “probably” because I’m not sure how much say the director has in Marvel movies, especially during the Ike Perlmutter era.
Stylistically, they apparently had a lot of say. The early MCU films, even into early Phase 2, were pretty distinct. Thor feels like a Branagh film. CATFA a Johnston film. Avengers is clearly Whedon, even down to the "hey, I'm used to shooting on TV" look to it. And IM3 is about as Shane Black as you can Shane Black anything. There definitely was a period in the middle where everything felt very same-y, which seems to be less of the case, now (though the Russos continue to churn out mayonnaise on wonder bread as far as style is concerned). TDW might be lumped into that middle period.
Would that have been the case under Jenkins? Who knows, but really, it was mostly definitely a mistake because it pissed off the lead actress enough that she had nothing to do with the franchise for six years. Praise Waititi for fixing that fuckup.
Meanwhile Jenkins basically single-handedly saved the DC films from wallowing in the cesspit of internet debate.
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12 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
Considering how TDW turned out, Marvel probably made a mistake by firing Patty Jenkins. Not a massive mistake, mind you, but a mistake regardless.
"probably"?
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3 hours ago, Wonder89 said:
Monster 2003
Wonder Woman 2017
If she was a great filmaker where she was between 2003 and 2017? She just need to follow the WW formula, but I think after WW she lost his humility
She was working. At one point she was the director for Thor: The Dark World, but Kevin Feige fired her and pissed off Natalie Portman in the process. Something that wasn't healed until Taika Waititi brought her back. Besides that, she's done a lot of well regarded TV work, including the pilot episode of The Killing.
If you want a reason she wasn't doing feature work, sexism in the industry is probably a big culprit. Women in Hollywood were rarely given second chances for even slight mistakes, even if they're massively successful (see Catherine Hardwick getting ousted from Twilight) while men are given chances time and again. Jenkins got pregnant at one point which is a big career derailment (See Joss Whedon's treatment of Charisma Carpenter after her pregnancy).
Working in movies is a hustle. Every is a self-employed contractor and all the work they do isn't on their IMDB page. For everything we know that Jenkins (or anyone else) has worked on, there's probably a few things that didn't pan out.
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Looks like I'll have to get some new shoes next month. Probably all of the ones Converse is releasing.
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I think 450 is a bit conservative at this point, but it's a good first forecast.
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Network (dir. Sidney Lumet)
Lupin the Third: The Castle of Cagliostro (dir. Hayao Miyazaki)
Watership Down (dir. Martin Rosen)
Star Wars (dir. George Lucas)
Alien (dir. Ridley Scott)
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin (dir. Liu Chia-liang)
The Rescuers (dir. Wolfgang Reitherman, John Lounsbery, & Art Stevens)
Mad Max (dir. George Miller)
The Warriors (dir. Walter Hill)
Wizards (dir. Ralph Bakshi)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (dir. Steven Spielberg)
The Wiz (dir. Sidney Lumet)
The Muppet Movie (dir. James Frawley)
Oh, God! (dir. Carl Reiner)
The Lord of the Rings (dir. Ralph Bakshi)
Being There (dir. Hal Ashby)
Herbie Goes to Monte Carlo (dir. Vincent McEveety)
The Jerk! (dir. Carl Reiner)
Heaven Can Wait (dir. Buck Henry & Warren Beatty)
Grease (dir. Randall Kleiser)
Animal House (dir. John Landis)
Added some more. Still a work in progress.
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I think Disney might have killed my interest in movies this summer.
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On 8/3/2019 at 5:42 PM, VenomXXR said:
Comparing a filler to the main course is like comparing Ant-Man to Infinity War. They may be in the same realm but they aren't the same beast.
Except in that case the quality of Ant-Man is considerably greater.
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7 hours ago, cannastop said:
Man I dunno, a Shrek/Despicable Me jump hasn't really ever happened for a movie where the original made over $300m except when the sequel took more than 10 years to arrive.
Shrek adjusts to 426m. Shrek 2 did 640m adjusted.
Frozen adjusts to 441m. A sequel above 600m isn't hard to believe.
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Frozen II | Nov 22 2019 | 2nd Most Profitable Movie of 2019. Disney does it again! | Documentary series coming to D+ June 26
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It's good. Both PacSci and Cinerama are exemplary theater experiences, especially since PacSci seems to do 3D a lot less, now. It's a pity they got rid of their 15/70 projector, but the laser is still nice. And both tend to get animation pretty rarely, so I try to catch those if I can. I think both are going to have Frozen 2 for a fair bit, though, until Star Wars opens.