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That's some good use of negative space.
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54 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Plus, Frozen was a phenomenon.
Both films had misgivings prior to release. But while Frozen became a runaway sensation and those misgivings were replaced with a WOM about it being an amazing experience for all. It transcended being just a movie.
The WOM on Aladdin is... it's not nearly as bad as we thought it would be?
It's doing very well compared to expectations. And it could hit 300m. If it holds similarly to TJB, adjusting Aladdin's 2nd weekend to match TJB's 3rd, that would have it... 60-ish million lower, which would be ~300m. It's probably likely to be a little worse on the weekends, but it does have stronger weekdays coming up.
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1 minute ago, Charlie Jatinder said:
Blockbuster film and Blockbuster Gross are too separate things.
A 500mn is Blockbuster Gross but couldn't be Blockbuster film for something like Endgame. 300 is Blockbuster film for something like IT but not a Blockbuster Gross.
Well, that doesn't make any sense.
I'll agree that it's contextual based on the film, but not that there are two separate metrics.
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What's the definition of a blockbuster, then?
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On 5/10/2019 at 10:58 AM, kitik said:
speaking of, what have the Wachowskis been doing lately?
After Sense8, I think they announced that they were closing down their production company and not actively doing any new work.
However, Deadline reported back in January that Lilly is working on a drama series called Work in progress: https://deadline.com/2019/01/sundance-film-festival-lilly-wachowski-boards-indie-episodic-work-in-progress-sundance-1202540554/
No word if Lana is working on anything. She did direct the second season of Sense8 solo, however, without Lilly. If it gets picked up again for a third season, I suppose she'd take the lead there.
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On 5/12/2019 at 6:45 AM, JJ-8 said:
Week 2 was another very spread scores. Been a while since i've seen someone get the entire Part C all correct but somehow 2 players managed this feat this week (In fact i'm not sure it's ever happened - @chasmmi can you remember anyone doing this ?). @CoolEric258 has continued his monstrous start with another weekly win (2 for 2 so far) - He also was 1 of 2 players to manage a perfect score on Part C., @kayumanggi was the other player who managed this feat in 3rd spot........ @bcf26 flipped is low start for a 2nd place this week....
I think I did it once, in a winter game? It was a very good week for me. I aced section 1,got 2 of 3 in section 2,and hit all the placements.
If it was a winter game, that was the high point of the season, though.
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24 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
FFH will do way more. CM numbers are the floor. IM3 for the top end.
Make a sub SMH club. I will be out +300 million
But CM has grossed more than IM3 dom, so it needs to be both higher than 425m and lower than 408.
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I don't go for horror, but that is a damn effective trailer.
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17 minutes ago, Clubs Are Trash said:
any idea what the next big opening # will be??
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Endgame's probably going to set the record for the biggest real-dollar drop from first to second weekend. TLJ fell 149m, and IW 143m. (I think the next two are HP8 and BvS)
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1 hour ago, oMeriMombatti said:
Zoe Saldana will be part of the 2 highest grossing and 3 of the top 5 movies Worldwide.
One fun thing is to look at the per movie averages of different actors on BOM. (Domestically.)
People above 400m: Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, Daisy Ridley, Letitia Wright.
People above 300m: Ian McDiarmid, Lupita Ngong'o.
People above 200m: Chadwick Boseman, John Boyega, Karen Gillen, Mark Hamill, Tom Holland, Rosie Huntington-Whitley, Lenny Kravitz, Christopher Lee, Evangeline Lilly, Jackson Rathbone.
In general, having a spot in either MCU or Star Wars films helps a lot, especially if there isn't much else. I think Hamill has the most credits noted on BOM, at 13.
The weird ones out are Huntington-Whitley (2 credits: Transformers 3 and MMFR), Lenny Kravitz (4 credits: Hunger Games series), and Jackson Rathbone (6 credits: mostly Twilight films.)
Daniels and Mayhew will probably reign supreme here, as neither is likely to add much more to their resume beyond SW9. Ridley and Wright will probably see theirs slowly decline as they expand out into more varied movies.
And McDiarmid, well, he could go up? (Is the laugh in the trailer a fake-out?) Although I think he does have more than the 4 credits BOM lists to his name, even if he is primarily a theatre actor. Trey Parker is one of the above 200m people, but I skipped on noting him, because only one film is noted. He's done more than DM3. He was in the South Park movie, and Team America. And other stuff.
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2 hours ago, Jiffy said:
Wow, idk why it never occurred to me that Home Alone held the record for biggest opening by an original property at the time.
I'm not sure I'd even heard of Harlem Nights before I made the list.
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IW fell about 50% from it's OW sans previews. The same for EG is 148m. TFA did 149.
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5 minutes ago, Sue Denim said:
Looking forward to the weekdays.
This is my conservative take:
Mon. 31.6 (-65%)
Tue. 30.4 (-4%)
Wed. 21.8 (-28%)
Thu. 20.7 (-5%)
Weekdays: 104.5
Just enough to beat AOU in 7 days.
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10 minutes ago, ElsaRoc said:
(I think there was also a weekend where two different films crested the record, but I can't remember which it was.)
Oh, wait, I figured out what it was. Not in the regular weekends, but rather the original weekends:
Title Date Weekend Increase $ Increase % Duration (Days) Star Wars 8/7/1977 $7,195,573.00 - - 350 Star Wars 7/23/1978 $10,166,336.00 $2,970,763.00 41.29% 154 Every Which Way But Loose 12/24/1978 $10,272,294.00 $105,958.00 1.04% 910 The Cannonball Run 6/21/1981 $11,765,654.00 $1,493,360.00 14.54% 721 ET: The Extraterrestrial 6/12/1983 $11,835,389.00 $69,735.00 0.59% 364 (Gremlins) 6/10/1984 $12,511,634.00 $676,245.00 5.71% 0 Ghostbusters 6/10/1984 $13,578,151.00 $1,066,517.00 8.52% 182 Beverly Hills Cop 12/9/1984 $15,214,805.00 $1,636,654.00 12.05% 1806 Harlem Nights 11/19/1989 $16,096,808.00 $882,003.00 5.80% 364 Home Alone 11/18/1990 $17,081,997.00 $985,189.00 6.12% 1316 The Lion King 6/26/1994 $40,888,194.00 $23,806,197.00 139.36% 686 Twister 5/12/1996 $41,059,405.00 $171,211.00 0.42% 56 Independence Day 7/7/1996 $50,228,264.00 $9,168,859.00 22.33% 1785 Pearl Harbor 5/27/2001 $59,078,912.00 $8,850,648.00 17.62% 161 Monsters, Inc. 11/4/2001 $62,577,067.00 $3,498,155.00 5.92% 567 Bruce Almighty 5/25/2003 $67,953,330.00 $5,376,263.00 8.59% 371 The Day After Tomorrow 5/30/2004 $68,743,584.00 $790,254.00 1.16% 161 The Incredibles 11/7/2004 $70,467,623.00 $1,724,039.00 2.51% 1869 Avatar 12/20/2009 $77,025,481.00 $6,557,858.00 9.31% 2009 Inside Out 6/21/2015 $90,440,272.00 $13,414,791.00 17.42% 385 The Secret Life of Pets 7/10/2016 $104,352,905.00 $13,912,633.00 15.38% Both Gremlins and Ghostbusters beat ET on the same weekend.
Also, check out TLK there. So huge.
Because originals are so much harder to predict, I'm really curious what will set the record next. It's PROBABLY going to be something animated, but who the fuck knows.
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Updated my weekend records spreadsheet:
Title Date Weekend Increase $ Increase % Duration (Days) Jaws 6/22/1975 $7,061,513.00 - - 777 Star Wars 8/7/1977 $7,195,573.00 $134,060.00 1.90% 315 Jaws 2 6/18/1978 $9,866,023.00 $2,670,450.00 37.11% 35 Star Wars 7/23/1978 $10,166,336.00 $300,313.00 3.04% 154 Every Which Way But Loose 12/24/1978 $10,272,294.00 $105,958.00 1.04% 7 Superman 12/31/1978 $10,363,384.00 $91,090.00 0.89% 343 Star Trek: The Motion Picture 12/9/1979 $11,926,421.00 $1,563,037.00 15.08% 560 Superman II 6/21/1981 $14,100,523.00 $2,174,102.00 18.23% 350 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan 6/6/1982 $14,347,221.00 $246,698.00 1.75% 357 Return of the Jedi 5/29/1983 $23,019,618.00 $8,672,397.00 60.45% 364 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 5/27/1984 $25,337,110.00 $2,317,492.00 10.07% 1092 Beverly Hills Cop II 5/24/1987 $26,348,555.00 $1,011,445.00 3.99% 735 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 5/28/1989 $29,355,021.00 $3,006,466.00 11.41% 21 Ghostbusters II 6/18/1989 $29,472,894.00 $117,873.00 0.40% 7 Batman 6/25/1989 $40,489,746.00 $11,016,852.00 37.38% 1092 Batman Returns 6/21/1992 $45,687,711.00 $5,197,965.00 12.84% 357 Jurassic Park 6/13/1993 $47,026,828.00 $1,339,117.00 2.93% 735 Batman Forever 6/18/1995 $52,784,433.00 $5,757,605.00 12.24% 707 The Lost World: Jurassic Park 5/25/1997 $72,132,785.00 $19,348,352.00 36.66% 1638 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone 11/18/2001 $90,294,621.00 $18,161,836.00 25.18% 168 Spider-Man 5/5/2002 $114,844,116.00 $24,549,495.00 27.19% 1526 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest 7/9/2006 $135,634,554.00 $20,790,438.00 18.10% 301 Spider-Man 3 5/6/2007 $151,116,516.00 $15,481,962.00 11.41% 441 The Dark Knight 7/20/2008 $158,411,483.00 $7,294,967.00 4.83% 1092 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 7/17/2011 $169,189,427.00 $10,777,944.00 6.80% 294 Marvel's The Avengers 5/6/2012 $207,438,708.00 $38,249,281.00 22.61% 1134 Jurassic World 6/14/2015 $208,806,270.00 $1,367,562.00 0.66% 189 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 12/20/2015 $247,966,675.00 $39,160,405.00 18.75% 889 Avengers: Infinity War 4/27/2018
$257,698,183.00 $9,731,508.00 3.92% 365 Avengers: Endgame 4/27/2019 $357,115,007.00 $99,416,824.00 38.58% Endgame managed to eclipse Batman's % increase to hold the second of all time. RotJ's 60% record is one that will probably never be beaten. Right now it would take a film to open to 573m.
Also, because Endgame beat IW in 2 days, that means IW held the record for exactly one year.
(I think there was also a weekend where two different films crested the record, but I can't remember which it was.)
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The same legs as IW get it to ~939m.
IW had 39m Thursday of 257.7m OW or about 15.1%. Endgame's 60m of 357.1m is about 16.8%. So slightly more frontloading. (Relative to their opening weekends as a whole, Endgame's previews were 11% higher.) Accounting for that difference, and the same legs would get it to 933m.
TFA is 936m. Which is smack dab in the middle.
Fan-fucking-tastic. This is a race to watch and enjoy.
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Wasn't the early estimate for TA1 right at 200m? What was the early estimate for IW? 250? It'd be interesting if they all went up ~7m with actuals.
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Comically large opening weekend. It may stand for several years, or it may fall in a surprise. There have been plenty of films which did break the OW record at unexpected times. After AOU failed to best TA1, many felt it wouldn't fall in ages, yet by the end of the year, TA1 had been bested twice. And JW was something of a left field winner. It only barely did it, but few expected it to be even close. There could be something that ends up ahead of Endgame that we never see coming.
Back when TFA opened (?) I think we had an ongoing discussion about what the theoretical limit of an Opening weekend was, based on possible showtimes, screens, and seating capacity. I think at the time we collectively estimated that it was probably at least in the mid-to-upper 300m range, if not above 400m, though the likelihood of getting at saturation at every theater is slim. With 3.5 years of inflation and who knows how much added capacity, it's certainly possible that the capacity is higher, especially since Thursday sneaks have been progressively earlier, such that it's almost another whole day.
At some point a 200m OD will happen. As will the 400m weekend. The film that held the record the longest was The Lost World. Endgame could beat that, but 4 years is a long time. If it's something that far out, the winner might be something we don't even know about yet.
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3 hours ago, Dbui8743 said:
Diana is canon queer, since when?
I'm not sure if it's been canonically stated, but I don't think it has for the mainline DCU. Voice of God confirmation from Gail Simone (and others) that they see her as queer, but I'd have to check Greg Rucka's run again to see if there's anything that states it outright.
Some elseworlds or other media might have it exist outright, but on the whole, the big two tend to avoid anything slightly controversial like that with their main characters. Probably mostly because doing so could affect the potential to release movies in some countries. So you'll often get supporting characters and even more minor heroes who are queer, but not the major players, except in subtext. And that subtext will usually be sanded down in major media releases.
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42 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:
I loved the first 2/3s of the the Wonder Woman movie, but Patty is waaaay too much a Straight Woman Feminist to handle Carol. She’s probably do something silly like give her a boyfriend. Her Steve Trevor love is so 😒🙄🔪
Um, you do know she's done a movie about a queer woman, right?
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Pretty sure both Jenkins and Murphy are just having a bit of fun. Don't read too much into it.
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Flop Weekend Thread: Top 5 Weekend Actuals - TSLOP2 $46.65M | Dark Phoenix $32.83M | Aladdin $24.68M | Godzilla KOTM $15.45M | Rocketman $13.82M
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SLOP2 getting less than half the OW of the first is... something. It's quite a drop from what Illumination can usually put up. I wonder if those character specific previews hampered it. They never gave the sense that there was any story to it.
Dark Phoenix is definitely hitting below the X-Men OW tiers of 50-60 or 80-90. Bit of a downer note to end the series on.