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On 7/2/2019 at 10:40 PM, Macleod said:
The character's had two TV shows and countless animated iterations...and for some reason...Warner Bros. still can't figure it out.
Making movies is a difficult, long, convoluted process. Even things that seem like a brilliant slam dunk may not pan out. Some things will go through iteration after iteration. And that's fine. Ideally, it'd be better for them to be workshopped until they're right, so long as they're not over-worked. But in this case it seems as if they're discarding entire takes that don't work, rather than iterating the process.
I could imagine that one stumbling block is budgetary. If all the previous takes were too ambitious for their desires, and they couldn't come to an agreement on what to compromise, people might exit. (In this case we don't know who severed the relationship, the previous writer/directors or WB.) Shazam, BoP, and Joker are all looking at a lower budget. The Aquaman and WW sequels aren't, but both are following proven winners. (And the first films' higher budgets is a vestige of the previous management.)
That could be one thing that WB likes about Hodson. Bumblebee was lower budget than the previous TF entries, but still managed to pack a punch. That seems to be true for BoP, and I'd guess is also the case for Batgirl. They could be hoping she can deliver a Flash script that gives them a better chance of success without needing breakout business.
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35 minutes ago, catlover said:
What past history? Do you think after making $180m in its first 6 days (albeit inflated), it will only make $170m for the rest of its run? I think the WOM's gonna be great and it will end up with at least $380m total. Right now I'm even optimistic about $400m.
3 minutes ago, KP1025 said:I think he was comparing to Amazing Spider-Man, which had a similar 6-day opening first week of July. That film ended up grossing 1.91x its 6-day opening.
Or Transformers, which also had a 6 day opening (well, it opened Monday evening, back when the previews were counted as day 0). It pulled 155m for the opening session and 319m total, for a 2.05 multiplier.
The last time we had this exact calendar configuration was 2013. Unfortunately both DM2 and Lone Ranger opted for Wednesday openings, so there isn't a good one-to-one comparison. DM2 had a 2.57 multi of the 5-day, while LR had a 1.83.)
Even when the 4th falls on the weekend or Monday, it seems fairly normal for releases to open the preceding Wednesday. Twilight Eclipse and TF3 both did that.
So, it's probably likely that FFH will do about 1.9-2.1 its 6-day in total.
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5 hours ago, Lucas said:
Very much prefered the teen comedy stuff when I could divorce it from the MCU and Spider-Man. Whenever the MCU showed up it felt like it was intruding on a comfy romance movie and kept getting in the way.
Pretty much the same. The action was good and fun, but Peter having hijinks with his friends in Europe was golden.
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54 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:
It’s pretty funny that you can now be in the upper half without being in the top 10
It might be top 10?
(considers)
Yeah, it's probably 10th for me.
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1 hour ago, Deja23 said:
Better than most MCU movies, including Endgame.
It's in the upper half, I guess. It's not top tier, though.
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Ooh, rankings!
Black Panther
Ragnarok (could vie for first)
Captain Marvel
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Homecoming
Far from Home
Dr. Strange
Infinity War (mostly because of Thor)
Endgame (because of Thor and Scott)
GotG 2
Civil War
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14 hours ago, filmscholar said:
@ the thread title.
Thank you. I don't often edit the thread titles, but when I do, I like to amuse myself.
(It took me awhile to figure out what to call SLOP2.)
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That Endgame number feels kinda weak, considering the extra footage.
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4 minutes ago, BK007 said:
Why would anyone hope for TLK to do well?
Probably the most unoriginal and cash grab film of the summer.
Hopefully it disappoints.
I really like the cast, even though I dislike the concept.
I wish they'd done an adaptation of the stage version. That would have been sweet to see what funkiness they came up with to translate it to screen.
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Whoa. It could open lower than TS3. That only had a 41m Friday, but it also had considerably lower previews, at 4m. So it went 4/37/37/32, for the 110m total.
TS3's flat Saturday might seem odd, but IIRC a lot of Pixar films get that. Finding Dory did 9/45/45/35 (and change). I can't remember the preview numbers for Inside Out or Monsters University, but with a 34/30 and 30/28 F/Sa, it's likely that they were close once the previews were taken out.
Incredibles 2 actually did see a Saturday bump though: 18/53/59/52.
FD and I2 both had Father's Day boosts for Sunday, though. TS4 won't have that benefit.
12/33/37/28 is 110, basically even with TS3. It's a close race, but probably means a rather large relative drop in final totals.
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Hey, you.
Yes, I do mean you.
Think Frozen 2 is going to to gangbusters? Or is it going to underwhelm? I can't remember what you think, so why don't you write it down in my Disney 2019 ranking club. You've got just over three hours to join!
(Also, my boss asked me today if I'm excited for Frozen 2. I had to tamp down my excitement and just say "very much so".)
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Have thoughts about TS4's performance? Why not take a wander down to my club to put it in its place! Deadline to join is just after Midnight, in about 3 hours and 15 minutes!
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Last chance to get in on the action! My Disney 2019 ranking club closes right after midnight!
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5 hours ago, PKMLover said:
[WARNING] WALL OF TEXT + SPOILER
Can I post something relating to the spoiler here?
Some footage of Frozen 2 were revealed in the Animated Movie Festival Annecy.
Use a spoiler tag.
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6 minutes ago, excel1 said:
Nope. Cannot and should not be leaving a single dollar on the table. Cement WW as an Batman/Iron-man/Spider-man sized draw. Make her the center of the attention. This needs to open first.
You know, repeating the same argument all the time doesn't actually convince anyone
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2 hours ago, excel1 said:
WW opened to way less than Guardians, Beauty and Beast, and Spiderman...
Openings aren't everything. WW out grossed every film of the summer.
And BatB wasn't summer by any definition
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3 hours ago, excel1 said:
MayPac hurt Dulltron a lot. JW also opened after several weekends full of small openers. San Andreas w/ only $54m was biggest opening over previous 3 weeks, nobody else broke $33m.
JW had a 90m opener in its second weekend. Competition is not always harmful, my dude.
3 hours ago, Porthos said:And that's July 17th, right? Unless they've moved it without me paying attention.
If that's still the date, it's completely irrelevant to WW1984's run, except for possibly super late legs.
Same studio, too, so it probably won't be competition.
3 hours ago, excel1 said:WW84, leading off the summer and as the first major comic book film in nearly a year (I don't really count BIRDS OF PREY) will open to gangbusters numbers. It will be the main event of quarters 1 and 2 of 2020.
Release after a slew of large hit and it won't do near as much. Facts
Why wouldn't you count BoP? It's basically a character sequel to a 300m breakout hit.
2 hours ago, excel1 said:If its good, make this the movie event of the summer. c'mon plz.
Yeah, like how WW was the movie event of summer 2017 when it was released at...
*checks*
Hmm, this can't be right. It was released at the beginning of June, a well known dead zone for movies.
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Where is Frozen II going to stack up against all the other Disney releases this year? Join in my little game!
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15 minutes ago, dudalb said:
I don't get being a fan of Disney. It like being fan of CHase Manhatten Bank,Microsoft, or any other huge corporation.
Uh... I think my general stance on this forum is that I'm not a fan of Disney as a company. (Or really any large corporations.) I was intensely against the Fox acquisition. I find any monolithic company, as Disney is in entertainment, to be very detrimental to both the specific business of entertainment and the overall society around it.
I do like WDAS, though, and enjoy several Disney films. The two beliefs aren't mutually exclusive.
It's a box office site, though, and I'm curious about how things shake out for a banner year for the company. It's a fun little game, not a moral position about the company's existence.
Also, MiBI? Better than Endgame.
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Not excited about another downer weekend? Well, come celebrate the winners of a winners year with my club/game!
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Saw a preview screening on Tuesday.
It's fun. Light, in that MiB way, but there's some nice laughs, some good action, and Thompson and Hemsworth continue their good chemistry from Ragnarok.
Not a bad way to spend a couple hours of a hot summer day in an air conditioned place.
(Biggest problem with the showing is my friend got me a fully sugared soda, which was probably way too much for me, and I had a hell of a time falling asleep last night.)
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2 hours ago, tupek said:
Story-wise, Frozen 1 is not that great
Also, this new trailer is great. I'm happy it's not delving deep into the plot. It's giving a hint (there's some secret/history regarding Elsa's powers and they need to go on a quest to solve it and save the world) but leaving the details free so that they don't overexpose it.
If we're only going to see one more trailer before the release, I hope it's not going to reveal much more. Covering the music (outside of the new Vuelie) would be great.
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Also, Crisis would be a terrible idea, and it's really not necessary. Specifically pointing out all the films that people don't really care for in order to fix the problems they create isn't likely to be a winning combination.
Just... ignore the stuff they don't want to keep and move on. Continuity is only good if it's helpful.