Eric Prime

Nah, the car sex movie is by Neon. They're basically the studio for Film Twitter hipsters who think A24 is too mainstream.

https://deadline.com/2021/10/no-time-to-die-weekend-box-office-1234852700/

-Finale factor with this being Craig's last movie -Better reviews than Spectre -Buzzier, splashier cast than Spectre, including Rami and Ana de Armas fresh off two massive box office hits -Billie Eilish doing the theme song, who is a bigger deal than Sam Smith It seems clear to me there were plenty more tools and hooks that indicate this would have done better Spectre pre-pandemic. And even now I still think going sub-70, especially after the immensely strong ticket sales at the beginning of its run, is kind of disappointing, even with all the circumstances And before some of you start to breathe down my neck, yes I'm aware the film is still doing well here in the States and overseas. Yes I know there's a pandemic. Yes I know that adult audiences aren't coming back yet. You don't have to explain to me stuff I'm already aware about.

Dune Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 33 638 6716 9.50% Total Seats Sold Today: 62 Comp 0.345x of Black Widow T-14 (4.55M) 2.426x of The Suicide Squad T-14 (9.95M) 0.719x of Shang-Chi T-14 (6.33M) 1.008x of Venom 2 T-14 (11.69M)

...what do you mean you weren't gonna watch Dune?

Halloween Kills Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-7 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 24 614 4268 14.39% Total Seats Sold Today: 57 Comp 0.774x of A Quiet Place Part II Thu+Fri T-7 (15M) 1.754x of The Conjuring 3 T-7 (17.2M) 0.581x of F9 T-7 (4.13M) 1.479x of The Suicide Squad T-7 (6.07M) 0.591x of Venom 2 T-7 (6.86M)

It's called speculation. That thing we do every day on the forum. Where we predict what will happen before numbers based on the limited information we are given. You don't have to like what CJohn is saying, but I don't get you being upset over him predicting things. That's a major aspect of the forum.

Got the first trailer for this a couple times recently. When I heard the moody, slowed down remix of Rihanna, I was in hysterics.

I never said these kinds of movies will open to those levels or need to open at those levels. I'm just saying that Bond failing to crack 70M is concerning for something like Gucci or Belfast because Bond has more going for it and the latter films may generate poor box office results below expectations and their comparables.

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If I can speak for myself, here's my big issue. I've been a strong proponent the film would do amazing if it opened on par with Spectre. But the evidence from how awful the last couple days were suggests that 70M+...might not happen. My data shows it dropped like a rock in Philly and there's been zero gains or improvements elsewhere, with a preview number likely in the 6M range. I'm expecting like 10x for the movie's IM (yes Spectre did like 13.4x its previews, but that was six years ago), so that means we could get an opening in the 60M range...maybe even 50M range depending on what the numbers are at the end. That's way below Spectre, for a movie that has much more going for it. And while TwoMisfits is right that adult audiences aren't coming out yet, and that we should expect a lower number, if we're even in the 60M range, that still puts up a lot of warning bells IMO. If one of the biggest franchises for 35+ audiences, one that skews heavily towards said 35+ age demo, still can't reach 70M, what chance is there for other adult-aimed movies? Not just something like Ghostbusters, but the awards hopefuls, the arthouse/specialty fare, or splashy, big-budget fare like House of Gucci or West Side Story. This just puts so many other films in greater jeopardy to fail than they have before, at a time when mid-budget titles, non-franchise fare, and films aimed towards older audiences are unable to justify their existence in multiplexes. And if Bond underperforms, it says to me older moviegoers still aren't eager to come back, and possibly might not ever come back. That's a problem as somebody who likes the movies I mentioned above, as well as the overall diversity of the theatrical landscape. I'm sure I sound like a drama queen and people will think I'm overreacting, but I hope you understand my perspective and, at least for me, it isn't just making a mountain out of a molehill.

No Time to Die Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 114 2910 20940 13.90% Total Seats Sold Today: 605 Comp 0.642x of F9 (4.56M) 0.383x of Black Widow (5.06M) 1.431x of The Suicide Squad (5.87M) 0.612x of Shang-Chi (5.39M) 0.555x of Venom 2 (6.44M) Yeah I don't think 70M+ is happening anymore. Mickey's Law kills another. To the other, adult-oriented films....good luck.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/wandavision-spinoff-kathryn-hahn-1235082445/

Good to be in that camp lol. I still have no idea what this show is actually about.

Of course not. Every movie has a different trajectory and a different percentage amount of presales vs. walk-ups, dependent ont he franchise and general interest/hype. The age-old example people love to throw out to discredit presales and the work we do is "OMG FANDANGO SAID SOLO SOLD MORE TICKETS THAN BLACK PANTHER????!!!". The thing about this is that Star Wars is a more pre-sales driven beast. The most pre-sales driven franchise at this point in time in fact. Fandango didn't lie, it's just that both movies were different beasts. Venom 2 saw an obscenely high amount of walkups the day of release, which Fandango couldn't track. F9, while not as walkup heavy as Venom 2, was still in the same boat IIRC. It doesn't mean they lied, it's just that this is the information they were given, and they are going to use that information to promote their website and the big new movie coming down the pipeline. People just think of this stuff as binary or fail to account for external factors (or just wanna troll and/or generate an easy clickbait headline), which just leads to a failure of understanding how this stuff works. But that's not a bad thing. If things were binary and Fandango was the end-all be-all of everything, then tracking the box office would be pretty boring. And really, just using Occam's Razor, why would a company make something up? Wouldn't that just lead to terrible PR when they get caught?

Dune Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 33 576 6716 8.58% Total Seats Sold Today: 41 Comp 0.820x of F9 T-15 (5.83M) 0.311x of Black Widow T-15 (4.11M) 2.313x of The Suicide Squad T-15 (9.48M) 0.695x of Shang-Chi T-15 (6.11M) 1.043x of Venom 2 T-15 (12.1M)

Halloween Kills Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-8 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 24 557 4268 13.05% Total Seats Sold Today: 47 Comp 0.794x of A Quiet Place Part II Thu+Fri T-8 (15.39M) 1.751x of The Conjuring 3 T-8 (17.17M) 0.556x of F9 T-8 (3.95M) 1.450x of The Suicide Squad T-8 (5.95M) 0.579x of Venom 2 T-9 (6.72M)

No Time to Die Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 114 2305 20940 11.01% Total Showings Added Today: 2 Total Seats Added Today: 168 Total Seats Sold Today: 436 Comp 0.912x of F9 T-1 (6.48M) 0.448x of Black Widow T-1 (5.92M) 2.107x of The Suicide Squad T-1 (8.64M) 0.712x of Shang-Chi T-1 (6.26M) 0.774x of Venom 2 T-1 (8.97M) Not as bad as I feared...but Keyser, I love you, but I really hope you're right about walk-ups tomorrow.

Okay cool, but I need details on the Sonic 2 footage 👀

https://deadline.com/2021/10/no-time-to-die-fandango-presales-record-1234850717/