Eric Quinn

We still have a couple hours before the previews drop. Was curious to know what everybody got for trailers last night? My showing went like this: M3gan (though it was only like a 45-second cut of the trailer) John Wick 4 Knives Out 2 (kinda annoying that was in there, since that's only playing for a week and I wanted Creed or something idk idk) Mario Shazam 2 (I'm so done with this stupid trailer Four times in a row I've had to hear "I just threw a truck at a dragon. I love my life!". And that's not counting the 30 other times. Please WB, at least give us a new Shazam trailer. I can't take this anymore) Ant-Man 3 Avatar 2

Wanted to post this sooner, but it was 11 when I got home and I had to go to work in the morning. Anyways, general spoiler thoughts... -Shuri and Namor are for sure the best parts of the film. I love seeing them interact, I love their character arcs throughout the movie, and I feel this will convert a lot of naysayers who really hate Shuri as Black Panther. -The stuff with Namor was excellent. The actor had a couple off line readings here and there, but he was intimidating and I loved his backstory and character and his understandable motivations. He's no Killmonger, but he's still both a fun threat and an interesting figure. -Speaking of Killmonger, that was such an amazing surprise to see him in the ancestral plane. Was kind of perfect honestly to really show Shuri's conflict and understanding of who she is supposed to be. -Angela Bassett for the BOFFY. Fuck y'all -This sadly does have the classic MCU problem of "We're letting our directors have total control...but not too much! Need to set up crap for the other movies!". Riri's alright and I like the actress, but she feels kind of out of place in the story and the way she introduced is really rushed and sluggish. Feel like there was a better way to put her in the narrative if they had to introduce her for that spin-off show I'll never watch. -The stuff with Agent Ross was also a bit of a bore. Always fun to see JLD, but you didn't really need them either. -But honestly, this might be the best ending to a Marvel movie ever? The climax is absolutely epic, with the Shuri-Namor stand-off being absolutely amazing. Both in the raw energy between the two actors and the almost final blow, before Shuri realized they were two sides of the same coin. It's absolutely perfect. If anything, it elevates a good film to something great. -And yeah, those final moments are incredible. The Chadwick montage, the Rihanna song, and just seeing Prince T'Challa...just the perfect ending. -I really hope btw that this "Prince T'Challa" thing isn't a set-up for future movies and that he'll be the new Black Panther. I just want this to be a nice scene of closure and nothing more and having this be future set-up kind of robs it of its purity. That's sadly what they'll do though. 🙄 But yeah, great film. Chadwick would be proud.

Quorum Updates Bones and All T-8: 16.37% Awareness, 5.04 Interest Devotion T-13: 21.74%, 5.28 Babylon T-43: 24.79%, 5.03 The Little Mermaid T-197: 58.48%, 6.21 Black Panther: Wakanda Forever T-2: 67.72% Awareness, 6.92 Interest Final General Awareness: 100% chance of 100M General Interest: 100% chance of 100M DC/MCU Awareness: 100% chance of 100M DC/MCU Interest: 100% chance of 100M

Sigh...

How many times do we have to do this stupid "OH NOEZ THE TEST SCREENINGS ARE BAD. THIS IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER NOW WAHHHHHHHH" crap on this forum? How many times do I have to share this video to you guys every single time you lot have a meltdown over some kids movie? How long does it take for you guys understand the key word of TEST screening? So obnoxious and tiring.

I wish I could suffer such a horrible fate that...*checks notes*...Top Gun: Maverick recieved.

RT is trying to handle all the reviews coming in, and their servers aren’t great. Just take a breather, because it will all be clear and stable tomorrow

https://letterboxd.com/nextbestpicture/film/strange-world-2022/ Embargo (I'm assuming review?) lifts 11/15.

Discuss!

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 3 285 18265 47782 38.23% Total Seats Sold Today: 5,176 Comp 0.594x of Spider-Man: No Way Home (29.72M) 1.466x of The Batman (31.66M) 0.887x of Doctor Strange 2 (31.93M) 1.335x of Thor 4 (38.73M) Finally done. I'm tired. I'm drained. Now just gotta wait an hour for my Black Panther show to start.

https://deadline.com/2022/11/black-panther-wakanda-forever-opening-global-international-box-office-1235167682/

Are we MCU?????????

Moderation This convo's not going anywhere and is way off-topic. Time to move on.

That's nice. I find those flop bar posts annoying and they're an impetus for annoying meltdowns that this forum doesn't need. I don't like them, but I guess I can't stop them from happening or being posted here. Oh well.

We're still doing this schtick?

Moderation If you guys really want to do this premature dooming and glooming, I feel the weekend thread is more appropriate to take this convo.

Should be up soon. Showtimes are popping up around me. Previews start at 6. Thank goodness for a reasonable time

X-post from the Tracking Thread. Things looking good! Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 285 13089 47782 27.39% Total Seats Sold Today: 1,494 Comp 0.499x of Spider-Man: No Way Home T-1 (24.97M) 1.328x of The Batman T-1 (28.68M) 0.756x of Doctor Strange 2 T-1 (27.2M) 1.229x of Thor 4 T-1 (35.64M)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 285 13089 47782 27.39% Total Seats Sold Today: 1,494 Comp 0.499x of Spider-Man: No Way Home T-1 (24.97M) 1.328x of The Batman T-1 (28.68M) 0.756x of Doctor Strange 2 T-1 (27.2M) 1.229x of Thor 4 T-1 (35.64M)

And if you have an hour and 20 minutes to kill before you go see the movie, I also recommend this stunning video essay analyzing the original 2018 Ryan Coogler classic warts and all. Thank you to @Blankments once again for sharing this video in the Telegram chat, because this is a wonderful look into what makes Black Panther such a unique film, good and bad, to me and millions around the world.

And while we are here, before things get started, just a reminder that the Super BOFFIES, celebrating 10 years of the annual BOFFY Awards, are almost here! You have until Monday, November 14 to submit your ballot to the lovely and beautiful @The Panda and @Blankments. For more information, visit the following thread: Likewise, my third director countdown thread, this time focusing on the Coen Brothers, is also still accepting submissions until Sunday, November 27. As of now, I have just nine submissions, so your entry could change everything. And with a minimum of five movies to put on your list, you have no excuse not to submit. Support me, @Blankments, and @The Panda and vote, vote, vote!

NO WOMAN NO CRY Whenever the time comes to make these big, lavish, self-indulgent introductory pieces when a big weekend thread comes around, I try to look at the film from a broad perspective to appeal to everybody. But I think for something like this, I need to talk about my anecdotal experience when it comes to Wakanda Forever’s 2018 predecessor. Like many, I was beyond hyped for Ryan Coogler’s afrofuturist epic. The trailers were so exciting and epic, Black Panther was already an iconic character thanks to his appearance in Captain America: Civil War, the Kendrick Lamar-backed soundtrack was full of bops, and the massive promotion across all facets of the Disney empire, at the very least, made people aware the film was coming out. And I was one of the special few who saw it early. Thursday, February 15, at 7 PM to be exact. I was in a packed auditorium, surrounded by Marvel fans and casual viewers alike, all glued into seeing what this superhero movie had to offer. The lights went down and for 134 minutes, I was entranced, astonished, and in awe of what I saw. We’ve all had those moviegoing experiences you never forget. Those experiences where you are so in awe with the film you’re watching that you can still capture the excitement of seeing it for the first time. For some people this was with Star Wars, and for others it was Lord of the Rings. And if we’re talking recently, there’s Avengers: Endgame or Spider-Man: No Way Home. And for me, Black Panther is probably my favorite moviegoing experience ever. No other film since then has given me the same sense of adrenaline, joy, excitement, and happiness that Black Panther did. The minute I walked out of that theater, I knew I saw an instant classic. And to this day, Black Panther is not just my favorite Marvel movie, but one of my favorite blockbusters ever, and one of my favorite movies period. Everything you could want in a blockbuster is in here and it’s done with pure care and affection. I love the action, the production design, the actors, the characters, the costumes, the music, the cinematography, the story. Everything about it was grand, majestic, and beautifully told in a way that, yes, is familiar to MCU conventions and tropes. Yet the way Coogler crafted his film and told his story, it felt like I was being told this story for the first time. And in many ways, with regards to the film’s representation, it kind of was like I was hearing it for the first time. Since the early days of Birth of a Nation, Hollywood has done little to truly represent folks of the African diaspora. Their stories are often slave or civil rights stories, or the characters are either sidelined to the story or lean on false stereotypes. But Black Panther went away from all of that. This was a film that celebrated everything wonderful and amazing about Black people. Their culture, their legacy, their history, their strengths, their art, their intellect, their bravery, their power. All with little to no stereotypes and an ensemble cast full of the most dynamic and memorable figures ever seen in modern blockbusters. All the while, the film looks into fascinating politics through the antagonist Erik Killmonger. Despite being the villain, his desires and wants for Wakanda to do more than sit in the sidelines and allow decades, centuries of oppression towards people of their skin color...those are valid and impactful feelings. The film not only celebrated the beauty of Africa and its people, but tackled issues that are still poignant and relevant to this very day, while still being an exciting and fun blockbuster extravaganza. Its powerful themes and messages were understandable to children, but non-patronizing towards adults. That is a hard balancing act to do, but Ryan Coogler did it. And sure, at the end of the day, it’s not really revelatory. It’s still nothing more than a corporate toy commercial at the end of the day and we can argue those nuances of Disney making a Black Power movie until the end of time. But even toy commercials can have strong artistic value to them. And frankly, if a white guy like me can adore Black Panther and its powerful statements and visuals, I can only imagine how wonderful it was to the people this movie truly represented. And the public, no matter who you were, adored the film. It earned the fifth-biggest opening in history, was #1 at the box office for five weeks in a row, and became one of only three movies at the time to earn $700 million at the domestic box office. It made more in North American than goddamned Infinity War. Black Panther was so good and so iconic that even a movie that combined all the superheroes could not match it. It’s still surreal to me. And yeah Infinity War did more worldwide, but Black Panther’s $1.35 billion still made it one of the biggest Marvel movies ever made. And to this day, Black Panther is still lauded and adored as one of, if not the best thing to ever have the Marvel Studios name across it. And to this day, even with your Infinity Wars and Doctor Stranges and Ragnaroks, Black Panther will be the film that will have the longest legacy. Long after we are gone, the new generations will treat Black Panther as this generation’s Star Wars. The new face of global blockbuster cinema, and what blockbusters could and should always strive to be. With this massive success and intense adoration, everybody wanted a sequel the second they left the theater. And finally the sequel arrived four years later. But the world has a nasty habit of changing. And the last four years had a lot of changes. The Marvel Cinematic Universe has been bombarded with Disney+ television shows, the current crop of MCU films have largely been divisive among the fanbase, and T’Challa has passed on to the shock of everybody, resulting in a massive story change, while the supposed Black Panther has been outed as an alleged antivaxxer. All of this has certainly been a headache for Ryan Coogler and his creative team, but thankfully reviews are strong across the board and that this is a loving tribute to the legend that was Chadwick Boseman. And in the end, this is the only thing that really matters from all this. So to recap the rules real quick... 1. ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS. NOT EVEN SPOILERS POSTED UNDER SPOILER TAGS. This rule also applies to other movies in theaters and films/shows recently released on streaming. So no Black Adam spoilers, no Banshees of Inisherin spoilers, no Enola Holmes 2 spoilers, no Andor spoilers, no White Lotus spoilers, etc. If you do spoil something here, you will be banned. No exceptions. We do have a spoiler thread for Wakanda Forever right here for you to go nuts in. 2. GOOD VIBES! Big weekends like these are supposed to be fun. So don’t be a party pooper and ruin things for everybody. No matter what the film opens to, it's still gonna make bank, we still have plenty of Marvel goodness along the way, no need to predict the end times, and so on and so forth. Try to have fun. 3. THE REPORT AND IGNORE BUTTONS ARE YOUR FRIENDS. 4. IS OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION OKAY? Off-topic discussions are okay in situations where there's downtime and there aren't any numbers, so long as they don’t get heated. But when numbers are coming up and things are getting busy, then keep off-topic things down to the minimum. And lastly... 5. DON'T BE A DICK. So now... WITHOUT FURTHER ADO LET'S DO THIS SHIT

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