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...Ye was running for president?

I mean a mid-teens opening for Violent Night sounds right even in the best circumstances. I think it looks really cool, but "Santa killing terrorists" is a Snakes on a Plane-style goofy premise not everybody was going to get behind or be interested in. I guess maybe it could have opened in the high teens or 20s and do 50-60M, but it wasn't ever going to reach 100M.

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@Blankments will give you mine later today after I see Armageddon Time, but how the hell do you put up with seeing a trailer 26 times? Or 22 times? I can't imagine watching something even 10 times would ever be tolerable.

Hilarious that Disney's continuing the tradition Bones made over a decade ago. Can't wait for the Grey's Anatomy episode themed around Avatar 3 in two years.

True Lies is pretty messed up though. They literally had Arnie use all his resources to stalk and traumatize his wife just so they could find a contrived way for her to be in the third act. It's so uncomfortable to watch this stuff unfold, even with Bill Paxton's character being funny.

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You say that, but there's also these thumbnails. They already got the knives out.

I'm actually kinda surprised that this demo is against the movie. Even with Avatar's progressive themes, this kinda has the vibes of a Matrix/Fight Club scenario where the audience being mocked actually embraces it, because they're too stupid to notice the themes. Maybe because it's owned by Disney I dunno.

Your "pessimism" isn't the problem, but your attitude. Every single week you act hyperbolic over this one movie's performance. Every single day you act as if Wakanda Forever is this epic failure and that Marvel's dead forever. And every time people tell you that things aren't that bad and that its run is normal due to its release date, reception, and because it's a direct sequel to a major overperformer, all from experts who know the box office like the back of their hand, you still carry on with your meltdowns and act like a child. Or worse, that we all have something to hide and that a movie that is making more money than we will ever make in our lifetimes is something we are all pretending is not a huge bomb. Like what is your gain with all this? Does your life depend on Wakanda Forever hitting 450M or something? Will the universe implode on itself because this random movie isn't making the money you want? Are you afraid Papa Feige won't afford his new yacht because of this one specific movie? No, no, and no. So why are you having all these meltdowns and making things worse for everybody? If you want to say a basic remark on how the film is doing, then go on ahead. But if you're going to act like a child and have all these meltdowns and do this passive-aggression towards other users and the staff, then the staff will treat you like a child. So please stop with this hyperbole and meltdowns and this condescension or you will be threadbanned. And if you don't like how things are run, then like I always say, feel free to find another forum or website. We are not the only place online where you can talk about Black panther with people.

https://deadline.com/2022/12/box-office-violent-night-wakanda-forever-1235187182/

Feel like being a finale doesn't mean much. I know this is Gunn's last movie, I know some characters will die, I know it's advertised as the last movie, etc. but the average moviegoer doesn't recognize it and/or won't buy it. Finale factors don't really exist because everybody knows that a franchise is going to be revived in some way within a few years. Most "finale" movies these days push the whole "IT ALL ENDS HERE" and it doesn't really do much to boost the box office with some exceptions. Maybe this one is different, but I'm sure Chris Pratt or Zoe Saldana will come crawling back to Guardians when they have to pay for their kids' college tuitions and need an easy paycheck. And I don't think I'm alone in thinking that.