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Exactly, if you start going down the "deserves" rabbit hole then none of the mega blockbusters deserved what they made.
I am not talking about deserving in any particular aspect. I am jUST saying that the very top grossers should be exceptional in one way or the other just like they always have been.
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But who says their opinions are right? Generally I agree with RT, but there are movies I like and they don't and vice versa.
Obviously one wouldn't always agree. But they are still experts. There's no one better to look at that come closer to giving a perfect view of films/ quality of visual effects/ CGI etc etc...
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All comes down to opinion. I thought the Avengers was nothing special and a typical blockbuster.
That's what i am stressing. Its not about personal opinions I am talking about!! Its the opinions of critics and experts that i am stating and not personal opinions.
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Its Not about deserving. Its just that the movie is not exceptional - neither exceptionally good nor a landmark or cinematic achievement. Only exceptional films gross big and should gross big. And this is not my opinion for Gods sake. Just read the last para (along with the rest of it too) of this following post of mine -
I think this is gonna make 170m atleast and possibly 200m after that. Still beating titanic or Avengers is the best one should hope for.
Its impossible for this to beat Avatar because this is simply not as good or groundbreaking a film! I liked it but this is not good enough to become the highest grossing ever. This actually doesn't even deserve this much, not that deservings got anything to do with it. Out of the previous very big grossers Avatar was groundbreaking and a land mark achievment in visual effects. Titanic was a very good and easily moving and lovable movie that was also a achievment in visual effects and CGI. Avengers was a movie followed by mega-budgeted marketing (the previous MCU movies) and had the major novelty of having these loved heroes all together. It was also very good too. The Dark Knight was a very good film, with wondorous acting and the death of the best actor in the film. It was the best movie ever of the genre whose evn avg movies make a lot. The original Jurrasic Park was again a landmark achievement in visual effects. Plus pretty realistic and high-budgeted dinos for the first time which also gave it a major novelty factor. It was very good and widely loved too. E.T, Star Wars etc, etc all were actually exceptional movies. Yes shitty movies make quite a lot of money these days and JW is actually above avg and with nostalgia factor butits not exceptional and if it ends up becoming the highest grosser ever than i will finally lose all faith in people and their choices.
Note - all that i wrote about films is the critics and experts and also, slightly, general audience's view not my personal so don't reply with such a comment as - well i didn't think avatar/titanic was any good or a cinematic achievment.
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I hope the same
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So.... you got it now? We both understand each other fully now?
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urrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh I know he didn't mean a 200m second weekend, but he said 500m in 10 days which would have required a 200m 2nd weekend to happen, hence my 200m 2nd weekend post.
Here is his original post
'I'm stoked. If it does hit 400m on Thursday (a real long shot) then 500m in 10 days is in sight'
now do you understand? I didn't seriously think he meant a 200m 2nd weekend, do you get that now?
OMG!!! I never said that you actually believed he meant that. You ofcourse knew it was a typo. What i meant to say is that even through that typo, the post didnt mean a 200m second weekend. The comment said - "if it does 400m by thursday then 500m in 10 days". This goes on to mean that it would make 140m more by thursday and then 100m in the weekend !!
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I know he never meant a 200m 2nd weekend, I understood it was a typo but for a moment it didn't seem like you knew it was a typo lol
No! Even in the typo it didn't mean 200m second weekend. That was what i was talking 'bout! 2 Weekdays of 70M then a 100m 2nd weekend.
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Anyways, Jessie, i hope you got it now? Whatever the poster posted, it never meant 200m weekend.
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We already did knew that. We were just joking before the arguement started.So you mean 70 for each of the weekdays? Ha. Regardless, the other guy already admitted it was a typo and he meant 300/400.
Anyways even without the each wasn't it quite clear, already? Well what do i know, I have got an IQ of 141, maybe it wasn't clear for others
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How not? 260 + 70 + 70 + 100 = 500m.
Was there something wrong with my english? Its not my native language sorry. Maybe I shiuld have used '70m on the next two weekdays each'?
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Huh? Isn't that supposed to be used for you right now? You still didn't get it?
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Yeah same result, 500m in 10 days. Maybe you should read it more carefully pal.
Ok here's the deal - he said if it Makes 400m by thursday then it would make 500m in ten days. In other words, as i said, 70m on thw following two weekdays and then a 100m weekend.
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He said 500m in 10 days is in sight, which is impossible unless it makes 200m on its 2nd weekend lol
Er...read what he said again....more carefully.
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so a 200m second weekend?
No silly. 70m weekdays and as everyone else is thinking - 100m weekend
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He made a bad call, no biggie. I remember you making many bad calls when Godzilla came out.
This was a very bad call even if this didn't perform the way it did and only got to 800-900m WW. And he even went all - "we'll see". So well we saw. And I would like to hear what he has to say now.
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I think this is gonna make 170m atleast and possibly 200m after that. Still beating titanic or Avengers is the best one should hope for.I agree it's too early to bet on it taking down Avatar, but it's definitely no where near impossible...just extremely hard
Plus, it's going to be close to 400m if not 375 at the end of this weekend. Do you think it's only going to make another 100-125m after a 85-110m weekend? That's less likely then actually beating Avatar
Its impossible for this to beat Avatar because this is simply not as good or groundbreaking a film! I liked it but this is not good enough to become the highest grossing ever. This actually doesn't even deserve this much, not that deservings got anything to do with it. Out of the previous very big grossers Avatar was groundbreaking and a land mark achievment in visual effects. Titanic was a very good and easily moving and lovable movie that was also a achievment in visual effects and CGI. Avengers was a movie followed by mega-budgeted marketing (the previous MCU movies) and had the major novelty of having these loved heroes all together. It was also very good too. The Dark Knight was a very good film, with wondorous acting and the death of that very actor. It was the best movie ever of the genre whose evn avg movies make a lot. The original Jurrasic Park was again a landmark achievement in visual effects. Plus pretty realistic and high-budgeted dinos for the first time which also gave it a major novelty factor. It was very good and widely loved too. E.T, Star Wars etc, etc allwere actually exceptional movies. Yes shitty movies make quite a lot of moneg these days and JW is actually above avg with nostalgia factor but if it ends up becoming the highest grosser ever than i will finally lose all faith in people and their choices.
Note - all that i wrote about films is the critics and experts and also, slightly, general audience's view not my personal so don't reply with such a comment as - well i didn't think avatar/titanic was any good or cinematic achievment.
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My predict - 470m OS for 750m WW.
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We'll see...
Yeah we did.
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Can't describe how unoriginal this film is. The only mildly interesting featute of the film is Chris Pratt. It is annoyingly similar to Godzilla which was also made by Legendary Pictures (unsurprisingly).
Overall, a gross similar to Godzilla would not surprise me but I think audiences learnt their lesson from last year. It didn't help that Godzilla had bad reception so I believe this will gross less - especially in North America.
Prediction: $140M in NA, $240M elsewhere (only because of China).
WOW. Just wow.
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Dare I say... could Avatar go down?
No Way. Its absolutely impossible.
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Also if we give a 1.5 multiplier to its most probable 10 day gross, 390m, it will end at 585m. I believe that should be the target.
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So if we even give this just a 2.2 regular-5-Day multiplier it gets a 570m total. So i believe that should easily happen.
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Ok i was one if those heartily believing Ultron to be a disappointment and preaching the difference between flop and disappointment back then even though its numbers were huge. But there's no way in hell this monday number can be considered a disapppintment by any standards. Record breaking number by a movie expected to make half of this...how is this anything but super-extreme success?
Wednesday Actuals: JW 19.9 [Not the PIXAR thread]
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Pretty good number. Although I think 300m in a week is very tough now.