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I wonder what John is thinking right now... Still just speculation and rumors?
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You guys already know my view on this escalating situation, but now you can hear my thoughts in video form:
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9 minutes ago, Jonwo said:
It's interesting that Universal hasn't moved Trolls World Tour yet which also is out in April.
No one wanted to be the first to delay a tentpole. Now, the dam has cracked and will break.
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Bloodshot isn't expensive enough to be worth delaying a week out.
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1 minute ago, filmlover said:
This leaves a big hole open in April now. Now nothing is opening April 10, wonder what will move there (assuming theaters will still be open).
Your very optimistic.
Hopefully this is a wake up call for people. The global film industry is about to suffer like never before. This is just the beginning of a floodgate of delays to come.
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Fellas, November makes the most sense. It's the traditional Bond window, has proven success. If you're going to move a $250m blockbuster because of a global pandemic, at least move it to a release window you have had proven success in.
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9 hours ago, Porthos said:
No Time to Die Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-200ish days and counting
Fixed it for you.
Officially delayed to November.
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DELAYED TO NOVEMBER
Called it!
"MGM, Universal and Bond producers, Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, announced today that after careful consideration and thorough evaluation of the global theatrical marketplace, the release of NO TIME TO DIE will be postponed until November 2020."
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9 hours ago, Pinacolada said:
The problem is is that they've already dumped millions and millions into the marketing already. With the Superbowl and whatnot
The problem is the disease, not the marketing expenses.
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1 minute ago, john2000 said:
mate whats your problem ?
I don't have a problem. You're the one who seemingly wants to pretend there's no global crisis unfolding.
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3 minutes ago, john2000 said:
scenarios /theoris create more panic , i can see why some people do it, but to start and saying that they will reshelude and black widow will move to say july ww2, to august etc etc while it could really happen , its really really obsessive
If you don't want to engage in discussion about how a real-world crisis could affect a $40 billion dollar industry, you're in the wrong place.
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12 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
I guarantee we’ll see a breakout, probably multiple. But I also know there’d be a lot of resistance of closing stuff by certain groups until it’s too late.
i haven’t but I don’t think Coronavirus is the main reason if Onward underperforms OW.
Movie theaters don't have to close for people to want to avoid them.
I'll agree Coronavirus won't be a huge factor on Onward's OW. My statements were in regards to Onward's legs.
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16 minutes ago, john2000 said:
can we just stop the speculations/theories for once ? lets just wait and see, speculations will not make or break anything
Speculation?
THEORIES?
It's called science. And math. And critical thinking.
Look it up.
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Just now, YourMother the Edgelord said:
Yes Corona will impact the box office to some extent in the states but it won’t cause films to move their slates or the pure reason why films underperform domestically. Overseas I can easily understand but even then look at the legs some of the films are having now. Besides if the virus were to outbreak, it’d likely be in the April-Nay vicinity.
I’m assuming your assuming we won’t see a breakout in the States. I’m not sure why you would assume that, given we are already getting a steady stream of cases, and we’re operating at a fraction of the testing ability of South Korea. Only god knows how many cases we have at the moment.
All it takes are clusters for city’s to start shutting theaters. Take Seattle for example, which has the nursing home outbreak. If they start finding more cases in that area outside the nursing home, theaters will become desolate quickly.
I’m not sure why America wouldn’t have the same 70% decrease in attendance other nations are seeing should the situation continue to spiral out of control. And I do believe that’s going to continue.
I get the approach of “hope for the best, prepare for the worst”. I just have minimal faith in the ability for this to be contained.
You don’t think films will be moved here? Let’s see what things look like in 2-3 weeks. This spread ain’t stopping.
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“NHS England has declared coronavirus a level four incident - the highest category.”
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-cases-in-the-uk-rise-to-51-11948376I’d be shocked if this release proceeds as currently planned.
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7 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Maybe but if places start to shut down...
(although if we survived SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, and Zika, we'll survive this one too)
Of course we shall survive and persevere. But there will be (film industry) pains in the short-term
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9 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
Again I think we’re overestimating the impact of Coronavirus. If Onward underperforms, it’s because marketing didn’t connect, and didn’t look good enough for Pixar. The first warning sign was in January where it failed to make the most anticipated family film list for Fandango in 2020 where IIRC both Dolittle and Sonic made.
I don’t know how you can say some (me) are over-estimating impacts.
In case you haven’t noticed, the global box office is taking a huge hit, which is only going to grow as the virus spreads over the coming weeks and presumably months.
I don’t think Onward is going to underperform naturally. I think with surety families as a whole will be increasingly avoiding public venues in the short-term. Especially when the case numbers spike in America.
There’s a difference between a film underperforming on its own merits, and a film being gobsmacked by an international crisis.
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3 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
I think early October would be the best move for the movie. Venom 2 is releasing on the first weekend of October but that's gonna be an Asia player either way where Bond isn't that big (and Europe will be left free) and it will probably also do sub-200 mil DOM so again, not huge competition for Bond. November means it's competing against a potential 300 mil DOM, 1 bil WW grosser (The Eternals) which isn't ideal.
It will be interesting to see the domino effect of film delays. Spring/early Summer releases will need to be pushed back, and Fall releases will need to make space, otherwise the market will cannibalize itself. I foresee some releases will be delayed upwards of 9 months to fill the gaps that will be left by blockbusters unable to film as planned due to the outbreak.
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27 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
I mean, they could put it in the same spot they put Hobbs and Shaw in last year. First week of August works very well for these kinds of movies and it could even have leggier run like Hobbs and Shaw did.
If NTTD has to be moved, I would think the most logical spot is October/November, the traditional Bond window.
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I think it's adorable you guys are trying to predict legs for films like Onward when the issue that is causing 70% moviegoing drops across the world is spreading in the states. Who knows what the numbers would look like today if the CDC had it's crap together and we were able to test properly. Who knows how many actual cases there are at the moment. Whenever those tests start functioning, I'd expect a quick rise in numbers, and a quicker rise in self-isolation.
Any talk of legs right now is bunk.
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4 hours ago, The Futurist said:
Didn't know until recently how much De Armas was so at ease with her body.
Good.
Looks like someone never saw BR2049.
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27 minutes ago, DAJK said:
I agree that this is an interesting point, but it's a very different type of apocalypse than say a "coronavirus apocalypse". It's an alien invasion, not some plague. IMO it would be a different story if this was Contagion releasing this March.
If Contagion were releasing next month, the release would be pulled faster than you can say "The Hunt".
With this case, It's less about the type of apocalypse, and more the overwhelmingly apocalyptic tone.
Also, when do we start to consider the effects of the virus on global film production? Blockbuster productions travel the world, carrying large amounts of people who work closely, with expensive talent, are going to have some difficulties. Mission Impossible 7 scrapping a 3-week Italy shoot is just the beginning. It's not just this year's slate that's threatened. It's next year's slate, the films that need a global pandemic-free working environment.
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11 minutes ago, Porthos said:
Now this, on the other hand, is something I WAS thinking about. Especially as parts of it are showing the collapse via flashback and not the years later aftermath.
Most people go to the movies to escape real life.
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Regarding AQPII, I anticipate a % of audiences, I can’t quantify how much, they would have been interested in going will avoid the film, not out of fear of getting sick from someone, but because the film’s depressing post-apocalyptic nature doesn’t mesh well with the notion of a virus actually spreading through society right now.
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No Time To Die | October 8 2021 | 82% on RT | RIP Sean Connery
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Some people need to really wake up. The "nothing to see here" mentality will be your own demise. The impact to global cinema is going to keep snowballing from here.