PenguinHyphy
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I really have no idea why anyone expected anything higher for Challengers. It is a homoerotic, R-rated tennis-drama that has one noticeable star and two homely costars. The environment in which it is coming out is also one that has a culture war brewing regarding pushback against homosexuality. Who exactly is supposed to be the audience for this? Her young fans are not going to be able to see it. Straight guys are not going to see it. Straight women are probably not going to be compelled to see it. Tennis fans are not going to have any inclination to see it. If you abstract those elements from the budget, the result is not worthy of derision to be honest.
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30 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
Ok...let's try this one again. Yes, Woman King did do 10x its OD, but its OD was a regular friday, not christmas day, which boosts business considerably...
Why bring up The Woman King if the conditions are as disparate as you say? That just appears to be daft on your part then
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5 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
Not sure what's so hard to get...
I answered the poster by stating that while the best outcome would be for the film to break out to other demos, that's not a guarantee, and Woman King is a recent example of a film with excellent reviews and audience reception that still didn't manage to draw more demos to it
Of course that doesn't mean TCP will go that way, and Dreamgirls is an example of the opposite - all I said was that being excessively skewing to one demo is not necessarily a good thing, because it's possible those other demos just never come through
And if the same percentage stays consistent for The Color Purple as it did for The Woman King, then it still gets to $180,000,000+. So, what is so hard to get about that?
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26 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
TCP's OD being on christmas throws that comp out of wack, though I'm still hoping it can reach that.
Then why bring up The Woman King in the first place? If it follows Dreamgirls, then it still gets to that number.
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I am guessing that it is a wrap on Heat 2 since Ferrari is shaping up to be a monumental Christmas bomb
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8 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
If they do - could just as easily turn into another Woman King where non-black demos just don't show up and that had even better reviews and audience reception...
If it does follow the same path as The Woman King, then that is still $180,000,000+ in America
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It is hilarious seeing the pivoting from the earlier pages to now. You had people stating that this is going to be huge because it is giving Hispanic patrons. Even when people stated that Cubans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Venezuelans are not the same and do not see each other as the same, you had people pushing against that. Now they are essentially agreeing with that same sentiment
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1 hour ago, reddevil19 said:
There's an argument to be made that Nolan had Following, Memento and Insomnia before the big budget blockbuster (so three movies in), but also that Twitter didn't exist and Facebook had barely started when Begins came out. "Name recognition" now differs completely from two decades ago because of the way information is dispersed. Comparing the two at the same points in their career is a bit pointless. It's undoubtable that Gerwig has some recognition but the extent of it and how well that translates into actual box office draw will not be understood until her next theatrically released project.
I was waiting for someone to post a sensible comment in a sea full of dumb ass posts
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Raunchy comedy sucked during its heyday, and they probably still suck now. People have finally matured and are resolutely rejecting it, so studios need to stop trying to have it happen again. They went from Coming to America, Plane, Trains & Automobiles, Clueless, Mean Girls and other comedy that relied on characterization, cleverness, pointedness and timing to Step Brothers like crassness. America Pie and Judd Apatow are the two worst things that have ever happened to studio comedy because none of that was timeless, and you are seeing the effects now of what happens when you rely on gimmicky humor
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2 hours ago, wildphantom said:
Deadline
“Already, Indiana Jones‘ first week at 4,600 theaters is ahead of No Time to Die‘s $75.2M (the pic finaled at $160.8M). Remember, the 007 finale opened at a time when everyone was still skittish about returning to cinemas during the pandemic.”
This is such garbage. NTTD is like the third biggest grossing film of all time in the U.K. when everyone was apparently ‘skittish’. Fact is the movie did not far off what Spectre did in the US. It was not affected by other factors whatsoever.
Uh, America is not the UK
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2 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:
I could care less about Flash or Elemental flopping. But that same picky, "I'll wait to see it at home" mentality means a movie like Good Will Hunting or Moneyball or True Grit or Michael Clayton never make 20m again, which means they stop getting released in theaters, which means eventually they stop making them of real quality. And those are the movies I care about.
People keep saying over and over it's because Flash and Elemental are unappealing product - but look at those movies I just listed, and tell me with a straight face they'd make any money nowadays. You can't. And they're definitely fucking appealing product.
Those are projects are more so hurt by people not caring about the Oscars anymore than they are because of a change in consumer habits. All of those projects got boosts from nominations and wins at awards ceremonies. None of them set the box office ablaze from the jump. Air and The Woman King both grossed a higher total than Michael Clayton and have pretty comparable grosses to Moneyball, so streaming is not the biggest problem affecting those problems. By all accounts, the Oscar projects are not performing great on streaming either
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3 hours ago, Spidey Freak said:
Superman has not had a great or even really good film since the 80s so...
Some people consider Man of Steel to be a masterpiece
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1 minute ago, Spidey Freak said:
Umm not sure. Joker/The Batman were completely unaffected. Superman: Legacy might do fine as long as it gets great reviews like GotG3
The smaller characters are gonna struggle tho. All eyes on Blue Beetle next.
Superman has not set the box office on fire since the 80s, so I highly doubt that one. Batman is always going to be alright, though
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DC is probably in a worse position than Star Wars. The Snyder cult is going to astroturf and asperse anything DC-Warner related for eternity
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73% male? I know that those showings have to be the funkiest showings ever with all of those neckbeards congregating in one theater
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I do not get all of the so-and-so-has-to-breakout-because-everything-else-is-faltering posts. Audiences have made clear that the days of going to theaters just because are not a thing anymore
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31 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:
I don't think that's true at all. HBO is still HBO. It's still the king of Sunday nights. It's still the home of premium TV whether that was House of the Dragon, The Last of Us, Succession, and I think he knows that. So what if 'The Idol' isn't good. It's not damaging the HBO brand and honestly, the Discovery integration into the Max app hasn't really changed much. HBO is still front and center on the app.
Succession just has a bunch of Tweets. It is nowhere near a phenomenon or dominating Sunday nights. The Real Housewives of wherever gets higher ratings
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9 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:
I get where the "Muschietti will drop out of batman" thoughts are coming from, but Gunn seems like the type to really stick with his guys and if he's already decided Muschietti is one of his guys then that's that.
The studio will certainly be able to override if The Flash is shaping up to be as cataclysmic as people are expecting
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Isn't there a rumor that Warner Bros is relying on The Flash to give them enough cash to properly promote their new projects? Their 2024 only has The Joker as the one project with the potential to gross $200,000,000+
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12 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
How do we make sense of this?
Why does he use the most random comparisons and never apply any context?
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And people try to say that Ezra Miller has no impact on the box office
QuoteFlash among general audiences pulled in 47% guys over 25 (78% grade), 29% guys under 25 (73% grade), 17% women over 25 (76%) and 7% women under 25 (78%). Diversity demos were 35% Caucasian, Hispanic and Latino at 32% (who gave the Andy Muschietti directed movie its best grade at 87%), Black at 20%, and Asian at 9%. Boys under 12 showed up at 78%.
It is a sausage fest. Shazam 2 got 34% women, and Black Adam opened with 51% women. The Flash has the worst male skew that I remember seeing
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5 hours ago, TigerPaw said:
Transformers is big in China and most parts of Asia though. An advantage Flash won't have.
Yet, that simple fact has not stopped people from yelling about The Flash being a $1,000,000,000 grosser for a year now
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1 hour ago, Eric Prime said:
The Flash is supposed to be the story, but the Jennifer Lawrence opening to $10,000,000 is astonishing. The trailers are absolutely insufferable, but isn't star power supposed to be a thing still?
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2 hours ago, dudalb said:
I would agree, but I find if funny that fans are holding others to such high standards, when then constanly support and sing the praises of films THEY HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN if it'sin the right franchise.
They are going to ignore your post because it is way too true
Weekend Numbers | estimates | 15.01M CHALLENGERS | 7.73M UNSUNG HERO | 7.22M GODZILLA×KONG: TNE
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Apparently, Saltburn (a movie that I have never heard of and have never heard anyone in reality mention) is the Taylor Swift of the movie industry because obsessives on Twitter have Tweeted about it until their fingers went numb