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5 hours ago, TigerPaw said:
Transformers is big in China and most parts of Asia though. An advantage Flash won't have.
Yet, that simple fact has not stopped people from yelling about The Flash being a $1,000,000,000 grosser for a year now
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1 hour ago, Eric Prime said:
The Flash is supposed to be the story, but the Jennifer Lawrence opening to $10,000,000 is astonishing. The trailers are absolutely insufferable, but isn't star power supposed to be a thing still?
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2 hours ago, dudalb said:
I would agree, but I find if funny that fans are holding others to such high standards, when then constanly support and sing the praises of films THEY HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN if it'sin the right franchise.
They are going to ignore your post because it is way too true
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Anyone who believes that those test screening reaction stories are not planted really is not the sharpest
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5 minutes ago, TMP said:
Ryan gosling has a fairly large male fanbase, something that the cw dude playing prince eric didn’t. Whether that fanbase will support barbie, or is just another scott pilgrim internet bubble thing, remains to be seen.
Margot Robbie’s also obscenely hot and has been in a lot of male-skewing films (twows and ouatih especially), which helps. It also has film fan street cred with gerwig, whereas rob marshall is an AI that gained sentience to make movies. Don’t think they’re super comparable movies imo
The Nice Guys, Blade Runner: 2049 and First Man all say otherwise. His fanbase is very much an internet one, which also applies to Margot Robbie
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24 minutes ago, Maggie said:
I think Barbie could be a mini Twilight. The movie is so big on social media, it can't miss at the BO
Yet, projects big on Twitter are unable to replicate that in reality all of the time. It is not going to bomb, but it is not going to be the massive blockbusters you people are expecting either
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3 minutes ago, narniadis said:
@MovieMan89 I mentioned it a bit yesterday, but I think the male / female split is more impactful than the racial demographics. That 60%+ for both Mario and FastX was flipped with Mermaid and lets face it the male demographic is still the largest paying demo for theaters (across all races). That 68-32 split is a significant amount of $$ left on the table. Racism and altright issues aside.
It is surprising that people are not seeing that as the biggest problem to be honest. Barbie is going to have the same problem
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But yeah, I have legitimately not heard anyone in reality acknowledge this project, so the projections in the trades are not surprising. I genuinely believe that the most fervent(delusional) fanboys have an inclination to go full-on Swarm when this opens similar to Black Adam
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12 hours ago, cax16 said:
Honestly people can try and play this game how they want this movie to flop cause of Ezra and that’s their right but let’s not pretend the majority of you weren’t there opening night watching IW and EG which starred Brolin who is an abuser and has been arrested many times. So whatever, don’t watch the movie but get off your high horse. There’s a bunch of garbage people in Hollywood, what’s new?
I only hope everyone has the same energy if they don’t recast Majors.
I am one for allowing the legal system to play out, but one had active warrants for multiple felonies ranging from child grooming to holding a woman at gun point while the other one is awaiting trial for a domestic violence case of which the public has no details. Those two are not the same. I agree with you on Josh Brolin, though. Nevertheless, people on the have always been hypocritical and are only sanctimonious when it is convenient
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1 hour ago, joselowe said:
Definitely think after 2023 studios are going to see that audiences are fatigued of franchises, remakes and films on popular toys/comics. Disney kind of went into overkill after seeing the success of the Marvel films. That’s why Avatar was so successful because it was a fresh concept.
Your comment makes no sense because IP snd franchises are still the highest grossers by a huge amount. They are going to stop putting out projects altogether before they stop with that
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2 hours ago, cooldude97 said:
How funny would it be after so many months of hyping up indy 5 or flash as the top gun maverick of summer 2023 they both just end up doing only fine, and TLM and spider-verse were the ones to break out
Everyone who has sense has been saying that, though
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15 hours ago, Firepower said:
In most cases, even if imdb score is manipulated initially, it streamlines into more or less reliable one after people actually saw the movie and certain period of time. We also have letterboxd with very different biases which is also very popular. Shang Chi and Wakanda Forever have lower rating on both. The problem with verified RT score is only very specific type of movies score in 90s there, something very safe and crowdpleasing, you won't ever see a horror movie scoring in 90s there or a dark drama, but it doesn't mean movies with lower verified RT have worse audience reception, in fact it can be the opposite. Or are we gonna pretend that Rise of Skywalker had a really good reception because it somehow scored in mid 80s there? Or that Maleficent 2 had great reception because it scored verified RT in 90s? Doesn't look like a reliable metric to me.
IMDB is the most unreliable there is, so you are not serious at all if that is supposed to be your arbiter of reception
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On 4/20/2023 at 10:17 AM, vafrow said:
In terms of deviation, even if this hits its current moderate scenarios, I don't think the average person is expecting this to collapse. People who follow the film industry, but not box office closely, likely see Antman as an anomaly, and expect Guardians to be a return to form.
I was looking at some numbers yesterday, and, during the first three phases of Marvel, there was only two instances of a direct sequel to a film doing worse than its predecessor domestically; Iron Man 2 and Avengers Age of Ultron.
Then, phase 4 continued the trend with No Way Home, Doctor Strange and Thor all continued that pattern. All three saw jumps, even as reviews for some were mixed.
Then, Wakanda Forever and Antman are two in a row of not doing so. Guardians will be three unless something changes. Marvels likely is four. If you count Captain America 4 as a sequel to Civil War, then, high risk of five.
I know people are sick of the dialogue around whether Marvel is dead, but, it's only going to get louder if things play out as forecasted.
I listen to the Filmcast podcast, and this week they did their summer movie wager, where the hosts and guests all predict the top 10 grossing films this summer. Each one predicted Guardians as the top film. They're all aware of Antman, but, all feel confident that something like Guardians is likely safe.
I think the performance is going to catch people off guard who are conditioned to think that Marvel films only get bigger with each entry.
Or, they are not expecting anything to be a huge +400,000,000 grosser, which seems very possible given that roster
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34 minutes ago, Pinacolada said:
The budget for this is absurd.... r u kidding? I literally figured the production budget was like $30m...
I'm sure it's a similar deal as Magic Mike 3, where it was originally ended to be a streaming thing, so they just paid all the actors like 2.5x their salaries, but idk, they gotta get that budget out with some asterisks
Because it's not gonna be a hit on paper with that budget and it'll be hailed on the internet as a flop, because people will fail to consider WHY the budget might be that high, regardless of how it does at the end of the day
The budget happens to be the budget, though, so they are not going to be wrong in that instance
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1 hour ago, efialtes76 said:
We are talking about quality.
And wel'll see the boxoffice...
Are you aware that you are on the box office section of a box office website?
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1 hour ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said:
I haven't seen 3 of these and for all I know they may be right or wrong (Babylon looks awful to me, but not exactly boring), but calling Banshees "Boring Predictable Oscar bait" is possibly the biggest L I've seen in the history of my time on this forum.
No one outside of Twitter cares or is going to care about it, and that is the point of that post
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1 hour ago, excel1 said:
1) What films did Cameron Diaz herself carry to success? Love her but you think she is the reason her hit films were hits...?
2) Robbie is the reason the DC films sank? GTFO with that BS
Cameron Diaz is top billed for There Is Something about Mary, Charlie's Angels, the sequel, What Happens in Vegas, Bad Teacher and The Other Woman. Name just one hit that Margot Robbie has as the top billing or even as a co-lead?
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1 hour ago, Firepower said:
I think Banshees is in much more appealing league for wide audience than, let's say, Beale Street.
Is that saying anything? The point is that it is not on the general public's radar and never will be as is the case with the majority of the "prestige" projects
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9 minutes ago, Firepower said:
"Prestige" doesn't mean every single contender has to be boring generic Oscar bait people forget about forever as soon as awards season ends, if not earlier. Oscars is a middle ground between Cannes and People's Choice Awards, not former and never was.
The Fabelmans, Babylon, Banshees, and Tar are exactly that
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21 minutes ago, excel1 said:
Margot Robbie is Cameron Diaz in the 2020s. She's absolutely a draw in the right role, but that's about it. Robbie was 100% part of the reason Suicide Squad blew up in 2016 despite pathetic reviews. The character is a bit played out at this point, though. Anyone think BARBIE has the buzz it has if CAREY MULLIGAN was cast in the lead? Everyone knows Robbie should have been cast as Daisy Buchanon in GATSBY 2013 too.
I also think, frankly, she struggles from being perfect looking. Many moviegoers have a hard time taking the truly perfect-looking people seriously. She is hardly the first person to struggle with this. Many actresses in the past struggled with this, and actors too. Some overcome it, and some don't.
There is such a difference between being "good looking & dolled up for Hollywood" ala Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Ben Affleck, Tom Cruise etc and then legit. having a super-model type of face ala Margot Robbie, Megan Fox, Henry Cavill, Josh Hartnett, Rob Lowe. Brad Pitt is one of the only people to truly overcome this and it took him forever to do so.
You guys need to stop throwing shade at Cameron Diaz in that way. Her box office record actually is next to impeccable, and she actually used to be a draw at the box office. Margot Robbie is sinking even superhero franchises. On a probably way more controversial note, Cameron Diaz is actually a captivating actress while Margot Robbie is not
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51 minutes ago, Dragoncaine said:
You're calling a lineup with Avatar, Top Gun, Everything Everywhere, Banshees, and Tar the worst ever? Do you remember 2018? Bohemian Rhapsody, Vice, and Green Book all top contenders over A Star is Born, The Favourite, BlackKklansman, etc.
We do not know what the lineup is yet, and that is why I stated that it is the worst Oscar season. Oscar season as in the "prestige" projects. Cold War, Beale Street, First Reformed, Widows etcetera are all better than the supposed prestige titles that are coming out this year, and those are not even big Oscar players. The 2018 lineup is another very low point, but when you have a popcorn Top Gun sequel, Avatar 2 and a silly quasi superhero project where people are fighting each other with dildos as your crowning jewels in cinema for the year, then yeah you have really reached the pits. The fact that people are even pushing an absolute catastrophe such as Babylon as a Best Picture contender says everything. That would be like the Tourist getting a Best Picture nomination in 2011. Where are the Silver Lining Playbooks or The Hidden Figures that used to be the "prestige" projects that actually perform well with critics and audiences?
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The "bleak" excuse is not working for the purported "prestige" projects because there is nothing bleak about the marketing for The Fabelmans, Amsterdam or Babylon. They were either marketed as a frivolous comedy or a soft domestic drama similar to Terms of Endearment in the case of The Fabelmans. They just do not appear to be entertaining, and honestly, they appear to be nothing new or unique. There is no doubt that this is the worst Oscar season in terms of quality. The "prestige" projects are barely outgrossing Judas and the Black Messiah theatrically, and that came out on HBO Max with no New York or Los Angeles theaters open, theater capacity being a thing still and a vaccine not being commercially available. That is fucking pitiful, and there is no way to spin that. The problem is the movies that they are putting out. They really have to begin putting out intriguing projects again, not ones about show business or the majestic nature of theaters or whatever other nonsense. No one wants to see that shit. Amsterdam, Babylon, Empire of the Light and The Fabelmans all are about that in some sense or another
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5 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
very american-centric thinking. Lightning is striking around the world right now fella, it's just snow in america right now
You are aware that you are in the domestic box office forum, right?
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53 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:
2015 was a great year at the box office. It had amazing movies like The Big Short and Inside Out, medium sized movies that did respectable business as well as huge special blockbusters like The Force Awakens, Age of Ultron, Fast and The Furious 7 and Minions. Hmm not many other good and big blockbusters though apart from the 4 I mentioned
The Big Short is legitimately unwatchable, and the box office of that is acceptable but nothing amazing, especially for that time
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Father’s Day/Juneteenth Weekend Thread | Flash implodes with 55M, Elemental bombs with 29M, holdovers hold atrociously | Theaters are dead, streaming is dead. Everything is dead really.
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And people try to say that Ezra Miller has no impact on the box office
It is a sausage fest. Shazam 2 got 34% women, and Black Adam opened with 51% women. The Flash has the worst male skew that I remember seeing