PenguinHyphy
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“ShAzAm Is NoT GoiNg To drOP 50% Or MorE BecAusE It Is a FamilY MoVIE”
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Posters are comparing Shazam to animation projects now? That is silly, but it is even more silly when you see that The Boss Baby’s, which opened at about the same time, first Wednesday is bigger than Shazam’s. Shazam is actually playing as your average fanboy superhero movie.
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A Dumbo drop on Monday with a slightly smaller Dumbo increase on Tuesday. Mmh. The weekend box office is going to be intriguing.
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36 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
Where did you find that? The last I read was way higher, but as some groups do not want the character, I wouldn't be surprised if it spreads.
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19 minutes ago, TimmyRiggins said:
In Screen Engine/ComScore PostTrak exits, Shazam! drew 25% under-18, with males under/over 25 essentially equal at 33%. Kids and parents combined repped 25% of the audience, and both gave this superhero Big-liked pic 4 1/2 stars each. Kids under 12 give it a 72% recommend, while general audiences enjoyed Billy Batson at 4 stars, 61% recommend. Diversity breakdown was 53% Caucasian, 17% Hispanic, 13% Asian and 11% African American. All super stats.
Dude.
That refutes what I have been stating how? “While general audiences enjoyed Billy Batson at 4 stars, 61% recommend.” The general moviegoers, who are the overwhelming majority of the audience, have way less enthusiasm about the movie.
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1 hour ago, terrestrial said:
CA WS has overlap audience to Shazam!, but definitive not a 100% match.
Plus: that was 5 years back, since then cheap Tuesday becam far bigger, that alone changed pattern.
Plus other marker that changed since then
Btw, also how strong certain sport events got... even that has changed.
It it is one of the lowest rated games according to Deadline, so it is not a matter of the game being bigger. I have not glanced at Captain America’s breakdown, but Shazam’s is mostly male and the overwhelming majority not being kids. Isn’t that the average moviegoing makeup of your average superhero movie? What about that is supposed to be so disparate with respect to who sees Captain America? You have a great argument as to why the Tuesday increase will Ben bigger. You are the only one who has brought up the Tuesday number, though.
1 hour ago, Finnick said:I hope you are joking, this movie is more of a Family/Kid movie. Do you realize some animated movies drop 86% on there first Monday. Shazam did well on FSS, with an awesome hold on Saturday and normal drop on Sunday. Plus most of schools and college are on. Shazam Monday box office is just normal.
Dude, the percentage breakdown is only 25% for parents and kids according to Deadline. The highest demographic is actually men and teenage boys, which usually is the case with superhero movies. You are able to scream about it being a kids movie all you want, but the breakdown is not that of a superhero movie.
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34 minutes ago, LordNox said:
Then how could Shazam have recieved an A cinemascore rating? The only way you get an A cinemascore rating is if the audiences liked the movie. Its impossible to get an A if the consensus of the audiences wasn't positive.
I stated that they probably like the movie, but many are not recommending it. It probably got an A Cinemascore because they were entertained by it. You can be entertained by something while believing that that thing is not really worth anyone else’s time. Captain Marvel has a 68% recommend with adults just as a recent superhero comparison.
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The NCAA Basketball Championship excuse is not a legitimate one because Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s first Monday also happened to be the same day as the championship, and that movie did not have as hard as a drop. That drop is giving Dumbo vibes to be honest. People might like the movie, but only 60% of adults actually recommend the movie, which is pretty low for a superhero movie.
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1 hour ago, Omni said:
Explain how a superhero movie opening at 70M in ALL OS markets but China is "very good". It is not good in absolute terms, it is not good relative to expectations, it is awful considering the incredible strength of the genre. It is decent only when you look at the budget.
At this point, I declare Dumbo a success, too...
You are being way too honest, so you are going to be labeled a troll and whatever.
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20 minutes ago, grim22 said:
It is funny how I am warned for "flame wars" while you go bringing up posts from a day ago. No, the $150,000,000 is the overseas estimate if that is what you are trying to suggest. I have already recognized that it came in below estimates and just hit $100,000,000 overseas, so why are you pressing the same issue?
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1 minute ago, grim22 said:
102M OS
You are right. It came in at $102,000,000 in estimates, way below the $150,000,000 that Deadline projected a few days ago. It really is such an over performer.
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The hoopla over Unplanned the previous weekend really makes no sense. A $6,000 PTA in 1,000 theaters is not terrible, but it is not anything extraordinary either. The drop really is not surprising.
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20 minutes ago, grim22 said:
One is overseas and the other is the global total, so try not to push any fake news.
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6 minutes ago, LordNox said:
But the fact remains that China is really only a profit dealmaker at the box office if a movie breaks out hard like Aquaman did in China. Otherwise China is only a nice bonus. Shazam loses about 10M in profit from bombing in China, which is bad but nothing much really.
From a profit point of view Shazam doing good in the US is much more important, while doing good in China would have been more of a bonus.
Shazam is doing fine in the USA. It is not going to lose any money. To claim that China is unimportant because it was not going to break out there anyway is outrageous when Shazam has not broken out anywhere.
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22 minutes ago, Steele131 said:
So it’ll get there by Monday what’s your point?
Is Monday the end of the weekend as you stated?
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20 minutes ago, Steele131 said:
The rest of the world. It’s making more than 20M today and tomorrow everywhere else
It needs $41,000,000 to be at $100,000,000.
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2 hours ago, Steele131 said:
It’ll be at 100M OS after this weekend. It’s definitely getting past 200M overseas
It made $29,000,000 on Friday, $15,000,000 of which is from China, to put it at $44,000,000. It is going to make $15,000,000 more from China Saturday + Sunday together, which will put it at $59,000,000. From where is the other $41,000,000 originating?
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1 hour ago, cdsacken said:
Shazam is looking at under 200 OS. Has to be more than just China as antman did like 330 OS right?
$105,000,000 in China, $21,000,000 in South Korea, $25,000,000 in the UK, $13,300,000 in France, $11,500,000 in Russia, $11,000,000 in Australia, $10,000,000 in Japan
$55,000,000 less in China, $15,000,000 less in South Korea, $12,000,000 less in the UK, $8,000,000 less in France is already $90,000,000 less. Shazam opens in Japan a week before Endgame and has been performing terribly in the rest of Asia. Assume that it even grosses half of Ant-Man's total in Japan, and that is $95,000,000 less. Shazam has grossed $1,300,000 in Australia and $1,900,000 in Russia in just two days while Ant-man opened to $4,000,000 and 4,700,000 there, respectively. It is a good thirty-something or forty percent behind Ant-Man in those markets. If those resemble the total gross, then that is already $100,000,000+ less than Ant-Man. Then Shazam is going to have to gross the same in markets such as Venezuela, Taiwan, Singapore, Mexico, Malaysia, Italy, Hong Kong, Brazil and Argentina, where Ant-Man grossed, $7,000,000, $11,100,000, $4,500,000 and $15,100,000, $6,700,000, $5,300,000, $7,000,000, $12,400,000 and $4,100,000 respectively, just to maintain that gap.
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2 hours ago, CoolEric258 said:
If Shazam follows Aquaman:
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15.4 (-20%)
13.5 (-12%)
48.9
Venom:
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16.2 (-18.9%)
13.1 (-18.9%)
49.3
Ant-Man and the Wasp:
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11 (-21.3%)
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Shazam is not going to have a Sunday drop that small, though. Those movies either had a holiday or a summer day the next day.
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40 minutes ago, JB33 said:
April in general is going to be really light until the Avengers: Endgame explosion. Shazam! will open so low that even if it holds really well the raw numbers won't be very big by the time the April 26-28 weekend rolls around.
It'll be interesting to see how Breakthrough opens on Easter Weekend. Could be another I Can Only Imagine.
The Breakthrough is probably going to perform pretty great. Isn't Steph Curry in it? It will play to a range of audiences.
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23 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:
Last w/e US had a 3.268 multi - if the same it would hit $15.52m
The Friday increase will already be ten percentage points more than the previous Friday's increase, so the multiplier is obviously not going to be the same. Deadline might be under predicting the Friday as well. The early Friday number for last weekend was barely $9,000,000.
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Us should be looking at a $16,500,000-$17,000,000 weekend with a $4,750,000 Friday. Pet Semetary is going to come in at around $21,000,000 with a 9,750,000 Friday using the same multiplier as Evil Dead. The movie is more previews heavy, though, so it might be even lower than that.
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1 minute ago, Matthew said:
Yeah, only made 2.15x of OW in Total
Then why are posters surprised by the projections and screaming that it will open to $100,000,000?
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6 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:
Also, Long-Range Tracking's up: https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-tracking-godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-ma-rocketman/
Godzilla: 40-60 range. 46/110
Ma: 15-30 range. 24/63
Rocketman: 25-45 range. 37/165
That Godzilla # tho
Wasn't the 2014 one received extremely poorly?
Shazam! OS Thread - 221.5M OS - 357.8M WW
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That is not a good drop, and the only market where it has to open is an Asian market, where it is performing the worst.