PenguinHyphy
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In what universe is a $175,000,000 domestic gross and being the 12th highest grossing picture of the year bad? There is a bunch of really great insight and analysis on here, but there is also just some straight up dumb shit. Wasn’t there also a sentiment on here that The Lion king box office is bad, too? I am assuming that it is coming from teenagers, but can the simpleness not be brought into the new year? And horror performed well at the box office in 2019. What is even the argument against that?
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57 minutes ago, narniadis said:
Yeah there are several 5 day projections that showcase Deadline as having NO idea what they are doing.... 24m for Little Women with a 7m OD?? NOT lol.
Still not sure if that number is accurate seeing as it appears to be collapsing at night showings. Either way, Walter Mitty only made $25,000,000 from an $8,000,000 opening day in less theaters. There is nothing absurd about their projections. You appear to be really passionate about Little Women, but you might want to wait.
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15 hours ago, Eric Plus said:
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Seat Report T-25 and Counting
Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 1 165 9,100 30,741 29.60% Total Seats Sold Today: 144
Comp
4.784x of Once Upon’s final count (27.75M)
2.627x of It: Chapter Two (27.58M)
1.853x of Joker (24.65M)
13.056x of Maleficent (30.02M)
10.448x of Terminator (24.55M)
2.707x of Frozen II (23.01M)
Adjusted Comp
0.777x of Lion King (17.86M)
3.685x of Hobbs & Shaw (21.38M)
This was a great day. This is the highest # of tickets sold since the first week of presales, and is a nice way to end the week. Obviously the fandom retrospective clip helped, so I do expect a decline tomorrow, but it's still strong results either way.
How many theaters are you using for your numbers?
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6 minutes ago, DAJK said:
Maybe not the thread for an entire discussion on this, but does it seem to anyone else that a shooting in a movie theatre today would be less of a shock than it was in 2012? I mean, obviously it would be big and terrible news, but like school shootings happening so frequently now, that it doesn't become "all the entire country talks about for a whole week" anymore.
Like, I feel that if there was a similar shooting in a movie in the future, that it would not have the same impact on that movie's box office as TDKR.
Possibly it appears that way to you because you are not in America?
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What is Ad Astra's budget because it is probably going to have First Man opening numbers at best?
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8 hours ago, Lordmandeep said:
Well tom some in society, logic is people who go to a strip club are 'lowlife' so its okay to do to that to them...
Being honest i feel going into the Hip Hop Scene is like a good way with people with a checkered past to make it big these days, because you get a lot of passes.
Nah, they go to The White House or go become filmmakers.
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21 minutes ago, maxalcamo said:
Looks like Inception. I hated that movie. I would like something similar to The Prestige, that's a great movie.
I laughed for John David Washington's name screamed so loud, Warner bros is like "you don't know who he is but Nolan has a black lead so you can finally shut up".
Yet, Warner Brothers states nothing about him being black in the trailer, so that is you once again projecting your own insecurities onto people.
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A 61% drop for an adult movie in July Monday does not project a good weekend drop.
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4 hours ago, jedijake said:
But movies like US, John Wyck 3, and OUAT, are making the same amount as movies like Pikachu, Shazam, How to Train3, and SLOP2. It's just that we are in a situation where $150-$200 million is great for one time of film but horrible for another. That's where we are right now. That's because some studios have tapped into how to spur MONSTER blockbusters, making average box office success look horrible. Fractured interests make some look like failures. Disney has excelled in making movies that reach a broad audience because they have existing themes. If the free market is to work, then perhaps the onus should be on the other studios to put out better products IF they want to get $300, $400, and $500 million movies. But I will say that those expectations are VERY unreasonable and unfair to be the measure for success.
Shazam and PIkachu have not made $150,000,000, and everything is pointing to Hollywood going nowhere near that number.
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I do not see how Hollywood gets to a $40,000,000 weekend with a $16,700,000 Friday where previews are 35% of that total and polarizing audience reception.
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That is the lowest score Cinemascore he has ever received, right?
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A 5.8 preview with a 17 Friday is more front-loaded than even the Fifty Shades movies.
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That is front loaded as shit if that number is true, and there is no reason to believe that it is not because Variety has the same number.
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3 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
These markets are huge. Doing well there guarantees strong numbers overall. I am planning to look at other major cities as well.
Booksmart performed extremely well in those two places, but its numbers were brought down by its performances elsewhere, especially in the south, so that is not always the truth honestly.
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12 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
Once upon is doing great at AMC Empire 25. Almost sold out AMC prime shows at late matinee and evening while is not doing badly late at night as well. Even some 2D shows have sold well. I am thinking 5m previews will happen.
Previews Once Hollywood
AMC Empire 25
Prime - 160/180 (A18 4PM), 168/180 (A18 745PM), 65/180 (A18 1130PM) Total 393/540
2D - 57/158(A6 515PM), 176/309 (A9 630PM), 12/146(A7 815PM),62/158(A6 9PM), 15/309 (A9 1015PM),7/144 (A20 1045PM) Total 329/1124Overall:- 722/1664 (44.4%)
It was always going to perform well enough in Los Angeles and New York, so using any of those two to represent national numbers is pretty faulty.
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3 minutes ago, Firepower said:
He's berating people for complaining about Hollywood not making original movies and at the same time not supporting those when Hollywood makes them. That's absolutely reasonable complain. If people had supported piece of shit movies and hadn't complained about Hollywood not making original movies, then that would have been completely different story. The blame is always on audience because demand creates supply, just like in any other industry.
Common sense oughta tell you that the same people who are complaining are not the ones who are supporting those projects, and just because someone wants more original movies that does not mean that every original movie is going to generate any intrigue.
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5 hours ago, wildphantom said:
You really took it like that? Ok. Lol.
I didn’t berate anyone. I’m offering an opinion on my hopes for this movie in its own thread. I will despair if this doesn’t take off.
I’m forever defending audiences from what they’re choosing to see, but if they don’t show up for this then moviegoing really has gone to shit.
37 minutes ago, wildphantom said:Are we really in a time where DiCaprio, Pitt and Tarantino isn’t enough for people to be persuaded to buy a ticket? Yet they’ll happily buy one for a Fast and Furious spin-off?
Grown adults who saw Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds and Django Unchained in theaters.
If you’re a fan of film over 40 and choose a Hobbs and Shaw ticket over this then we’ve got a serious problem. Are there people over 40 seriously sat at home thinking “I think I’ll wait for Hobbs”?
I’m trusting they will come out and make this a hit. Otherwise, well I just don’t know what to say.
Yet, there you are berating people for what they want to see. People not wanting to see a Quentin Tarantino movie about Hollywood really is not the high crime that you make it out to be. You have the opportunity to see it in theaters, so that is all that oughta matter to you. What other people want to see with THEIR money and time is their proclivity, and all of the whining about people not being as excited about a Quentin Tarantino movie as others is annoying.
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21 minutes ago, Barnack said:
Silence, Kundun, Age of Innocence, etc...
If you are an adult and love movies, wtf are you doing not getting yourself out of the house watching any latest Scorsese release blindly ?
I imagine people that "love movies" in the sentiment used in that sentence, do so, that indicate there is just not that many of such people.
Probably because those movies are not intriguing to those people
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18 minutes ago, thedast said:
To be fair, she hasn't had a #1 album in a while. Her last few releases have not done great. In what is becoming typical, the noise people make for her on social media doesn't reflect on the charts.
Her last album was in 2016, and it is the highest selling album that year and still one of the best-selling catalogue albums, so your post is a bunch of projecting.
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2 hours ago, wildphantom said:
Surely this has to open really well this weekend.
I mean, if you’re an adult and love movies, wtf are you doing if you can’t get yourself out of the house for a raved new QT movie? With that cast?
almost feel like this is the last straw for me defending moviegoers if this doesn’t sail past $100 million domestic.
If you’re over 25 and thinking “nah, I’ll wait for that Fast and Furious movie” then I don’t know what to say.
Or how about you watch want you want and allow other people to watch what they want without you berating people?
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21 minutes ago, Nova said:
Nothing in my statement about social media is unreasonable. Social media has some great aspects to it but I don’t know how anyone can act like it hasn’t become a poison and has amplituded (which I stated in my original comment) the mob mentality. I didn’t say the mob mentality didn’t exist beforehand. I simply said it didn’t exist the way it exists today and I think that has a lot to do with social media.
You are aware that exact quotes are able to be pulled up, right? Yes, you stated that it did not exist before.
“There is a mob mentality and I think it 100% stems from a rise in social media cause it was not like this before that (from what I remember at least) Now a days, whatever the mob says goes...That gray area that we had, is kinda gone.“
It is really ironic that you use an expression that originated from the 1800s as a description to something “originating” from social media by the way. I explicitly state that social media amplifies behaviors that already exist. You are the one who ascribes the origin to it. If the statement were about social media exhibiting toxic behaviors, then I probably might have just agreed; however, it went further than that, and the statements that followed are just absolutely untrue.
The fact of the matter is that there has never been a “grey area,” and that is where the holes arise in your argument. I am not about to broach it anymore, so you might not want to reply. I just want to challenge an untruth because that is how you clear up misconceptions. Now your arguments are going to have more nuance.
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2 hours ago, Nova said:
There is a mob mentality and I think it 100% stems from a rise in social media cause it was not like this before that (from what I remember at least) Now a days, whatever the mob says goes. So something is either good or bad; black or white. And it's not just movies either. It is crossing over into other forms of entertainment and even how folks view people. That gray area that we had, is kinda gone.
I mean you even see it on here and how folks view RT scores for example. If a movie doesn't get like 90+ on RT it is viewed as average. And if it gets below a 70 suddenly it's not good. And that goes into influencing how posters view movies on here.
That is an absolutely silly argument without any interrogation put into it. That has literally been the way people assess things, especially other people, since the beginning of time. That is even the way people assess things in most major religions. Before it was the press who spearheaded those things. It was a national outrage when the Surgeon General, who was forced to resign as a result, stated that teenagers oughta learn about masturbation as a form of abstinence, but there was supposed to be so much “nuanced” discussion before social media?
The fact of the matter is that social media amplified whatever has already existed within society but makes them more democratizing. Only certain people and things were subject to public ridicule before; whereas, everyone and everything is able to be subject to public ridicule now because of there not being anymore gatekeeping as a result of social media. The exposure of people or things previously protected from that type of evaluation is the real reason why you are seeing those baseless proclamations, and that is why all of those sweeping statements about social media are unreasonable. There has never been a universal grey area.
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Is this the appropriate thread for posts about how poor Shazam’s numbers are, @grim22?
Weekend Thread: Thursday Night Preview - 1917 $3.25M | Like a Boss $1M | Just Mercy $800K | Underwater $500K
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So, the same budget as Dunkirk, but it is going to gross way less than that. Meh