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4 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Babylon also has Brad Pitt with equal top billing (coming off of a $100M+ hit he anchored all by himself this summer) and did little to move the needle either. It's been proven time and time again that all the star power in the world won't save a movie when the movie in question isn't appealing.
Pitt has always struggled with adult dramas, so that is not a surprise
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17 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Yeah, how are we blaming Robbie for the failure of her ambitious fourth quarter flops lol? These bombs are on DOR and Chazelle, not anyone who was in them. If Barbie flops next year then we'll talk.
Even her superhero projects tanked at the box office. That is almost impossible to realize given how full proof that genre is nowadays. You can give Suicide Squad an excuse, but Birds of Prey was not on streaming and happened before coronavirus was even a thing in America. They are just not that into her
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Shit! Babylon is the bomb of all bombs. Its four-day gross is going to be below the three day for Amsterdam. That is a catastrophe, especially since it is the Christmas season. If Barbie is not a huge grosser, then they are probably going to pivot to some other young actress as the next big star. That seems to be another Twitter thing, though, given its trailer views and that Fandango poll
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Universal actually tried to put its money where its mouth is by putting out mid budget projects for adults, but they see now that you observe what people do, not what they say:
Redeeming Love - $9,000,000
Ambulance - $22,000,000
Easter Sunday - $13,000,000
Bros - $11,600,000
She Said - $3,600,000 and barely counting
Fabelmans - $3,000,000 opening over five day Thanksgiving holiday
It is apparent that audiences just are not going to see such content in theaters anymore because those are from a huge studio with a sizable promotional campaign, but they are putting up grosses similar to independent studio productions
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Fabelmans is a bust. It is supposed to be the buzziest prestige picture of the season, but even Bodies, Bodies, Bodies opened with a higher per theater average. Coronavirus just devastated the specialty box office. "Prestige" dramas just do not have a place in theaters anymore
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56 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
is onto something. Romance is a main reason why slash shipping (male/male) and fem-slash shipping (female/female) are so popular. Shippers see romance in same sex characters interaction and take it to the next level in their writing. It isn't about sexuality. When Cap says "when I had nothing, I had Bucky", it's an emotional line that could be interrpeted as romantic if you want. Coupled with gorgeous looking actors, great chemistry and moments where they look into each other's eyes or say suggestive lines that can be interpreted any way you like, no wonder thes epairings are more popular than canon het couples.
IMO, movies centered around gay romance should recapture Sambucky, Stucky, Magneto/Xavier dynamics if they want to become big hits. It's all about knowing looks, flirting, inuendo, suggestive lines, heart-fluttering moments. Except that this time there will be a payoff.
Your average American is not "shipping" anyone. Only people who are perpetually on Twitter or the internet ate "shipping" people. Heartbreakers has very boisterous supporters on the internet, but the Netflix numbers are not that big if you go to the official Netflix charts. That is the biggest problem with Bros. It was marketed to internet pundits, for some strange reason, not the people who actually turn things into box office hits. They did the opposite of what Sony did with The Woman King.
I saw The Woman King advertisement during college football on the weekend, and the trailers always played up the action. They did not even reveal the movie to pundits until the week before it opened, and they did those with public screenings in various cities across America. Sure, Bros would not be able to play a lot of advertisement during a college football game without a bunch of pushback from the audience, but there are probably better outlets to have pushed it instead of pushing it as an awards vehicle. Awards vehicles have been struggling at the box office for years now, so I am not even sure why they went that route.
Bros was never going to be a hit no matter who starred in it. Raunchy comedy and rom coms have been bombing at the box office for years now, and bros is trying to be both. I never saw the appeal of it as a straight woman, and I cannot imagine any huge numbers of straight women seeing it as appealing either. I am still confused as to why anyone thought that this might appeal to straight women
Bros with its festival launch is opening below even Easter Sunday. That says everything, and that also says that the problem is with the foundation, not just the marketing
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1 minute ago, el sid said:
No, I didn't. It had in 3 of my 7 theaters shows with 574 sold tickets (combined).
Mostly I don't add these extra shows (it wasn't helpful, e.g. my Bond prediction was way off, way too high) and also didn't add them last week when I counted Nope so I was really surprised that the jump is so small. Maybe people booked tickets for the IMAX live events instead but I doubt it because the jumps in all 7 theaters were poor. But as I said, overall the Thursday presales are still good.
I do not know about those theaters specifically, but I know that my Lincoln ticket that I got weeks ago at seven something in IMAX was not one of those events. I got an email that it was moved to that last Thursday or Friday, so I am assuming that they just moved IMAX shows in place of posting new ones. I am just saying that if you have been tracking the shows for weeks, then you might have previously included those moved tickets
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1 minute ago, el sid said:
That was a strange counting today.
Nope, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, July 21:
NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 110 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 201 (6 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 23 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 14 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 54 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 293 (7 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 849 (9 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.544.
Up poor 14%. I counted some shows twice because I thought I made a mistake. But it's correct.Comps (all counted on Monday for Thursday😞 The Forever Purge had 104 sold tickets,
AQP II had 747 sold tickets,
Halloween Kills had 591
and Scream had 1.004 sold tickets.
Well, the jump was way worse than expected. Last week I was sure that it reaches 2k+ tickets and normally and especially for horror films these projections work. Idk what happened here. Maybe it's because it went on sale pretty early and therefore already reached a high level. In comparison to other films today's number is still very good as you can see but thoese films had good jumps over the next days.
But Nope's Friday presales look better in my theaters.
Nope, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, July 22:
NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 207 (11 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 168 (11 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 6 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 6 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 14 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 345 (11 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 870 (16 showtimes)
Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.616.Up good 93%. As I said, strange.
Comps (all counted on Monday for Friday): Old had 150 sold tickets,The Invisible Man had 323,
Candyman had 180,
HK had 750 sold tickets
and Scream had 588 sold tickets.
The count is strange because you probably did not count the IMAX live events
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On 7/9/2022 at 5:26 PM, vale9001 said:
I have read a long thread on twitter by an african historian and he wrote some of the characters the movie is going to idealize where kinda of really negative figures.
And this is reduce the history of Africa to the "Blacks Vs whites" (something appealing to americans) when Africa history is a lot more complex than just that. .
I can't judge cause i don't know Africa history so much but in hollywood prospective this movie seems really something new and fresh, and still for a lot of people can be a first step to know and get into african history and culture.
Or better yet, you cannot judge because you have not seen the fucking movie yet. Elon Musk is so right about social media being the downfall of the planet
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65% drop for a movie that many on here put as one of the most anticipated of the year? Yeah sure, it is only seeing such a unprecedented decline because of people not wanting to see Buzz Lightyear
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Elvis is pretty front loaded for the type of project that it is
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Hollywood needs to be scared to be honest. You cannot convince me that anything other than the conservative outrage about the lesbians is responsible for Lightyear being a bust, and that is astonishing. People I know in real life even stated that they are not seeing it because of propaganda. They are going to try this on other movies since their efforts against Lightyear are so successful
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16 hours ago, Cap said:
As someone who spent a lot of time tracking Lincoln Square before the pandemic, it is misguided to compare their Friday tickets sales to really any other theater (With the exception of maybe like the Arclight or Disney springs). The IMAX is the premium screen not only in NYC but Pretty much the entire East Coast. It’s a pilgrimage theater. People go specifically to see films at that IMAX screen, and it tends to get the most devoted of fans rushing out.
We absolutely don’t do this here. So I would refrain from this type of behavior when you post going forward.
I posted about Thursday, and do not give me any suggestions about behavior if you are not going to do the same for the person who instigated it and antagonized the post
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Overturning Roe v Wade is not affecting Elvis. Boomers are the group who are most in support of overturning Roe v Wade, so why are they going to be too depressed to go to theaters to see it? It hypothetically would affect The Black Phone way more with its younger audience. It is not affecting either, though
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5 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
Your last post is literally from March quoting me and saying "You hail Northman as the pinnacle of auteur cinema"
Oh, you are a butt hurt Eggers fanboy who got mad at me for calling a bomb a bomb. I hope you have started spending way less time whining on the internet and way more time supporting your precious "auteurs" in theaters
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Just now, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
Do you only post here to freakout and criticize others?
I have no idea who you are
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I will wait for Friday's number, but I knew that Elvis is going to have fan front loading
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I honestly do not get the hysteria about Nope in here. The theater that I go to, AMC Lincoln Square in New York, already has almost 75% occupancy for the 7:30 pm IMAX on Thursday night a month before release. That seems pretty great to me. I see people posting about "hype," which is probably supposed to based on internet fanboys, but I see nothing about actual numbers
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20 hours ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
I haven't seen the movie, but nice try
And you still are hailing it as the pinnacle of "auteur" cinema for whatever reason
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19 hours ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
Who cares? It's not your money
Y’all are so annoying with that shit. The main ones hemming and hawing about Ambulance, Moonfall, The Suicide Squad etcetera being bombs are trying to be sanctimonious with people pointing out The Northman being a bust. If you just want to circle jerk about how a much of a “masterpiece” a movie that you already convinced yourselves is the best ever before a picture was even put on the internet is, then why the fuck are you on a forum about box office?
No, we do not give a shit about how Robert Eggers has alleviated your depression because of the future of “auteur” cinema. You can go to Reddit for that. No, your dislike of a project or people involved with that project does not make box office bad and your like of a project or the people involved with that project does not make box office good.
The fanboys are trying their best to turn these threads into r/box office and drag the discourse into the gutter. Where has all of the maturity that this place used to be known for gone?
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1 hour ago, sfran43 said:
Unassuming run, its global gross might not even surpass Hidden Figure’s domestic numbers. The people hyping up its box office performance were just trying to have it appear as some juggernaut that the Oscars cannot ignore.
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7 hours ago, Alli said:
Scott starts the year with a very bad take
What is supposed to be faulty about that?
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36 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Dolittle not completely flopping like all the signs were pointing to definitely feels like a testament to the goodwill RDJ has (for now, at least). Hopefully the movie's poor reception and the fact it's gonna be a huge money-loser that won't be getting a sequel will indicate to him to pick his projects more carefully going forward instead of only accepting everything that promises him the big paychecks until no one cares anymore.
In what universe is Doolittle not a bomb? We have to be in the Twilight Zone. The entire rationale about a project losing $100,000,000 in place of $150,000,000 equating to whoever starring being a draw is some of the most perplexing shit that I have ever seen. You do not pay someone $20,000,000 to potentially lose less money than whatever starring whoever else. You pay them that to earn more money than whatever starring whoever else. It is also moot because it will not cost nearly as much without whatever supposed a-list star starring, so you are effectively neutralizing whatever higher gross with lower expenditures.
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There is no way that it is not hitting a $70,000,000 four the four day with a $60,000,000 three day. Even Glass managed to gross $6,000,000 on Martin Luther King Jr Day from a $9,000,000 Sunday. Grossing $10,000,000 on Monday is really not going to be a struggle. A $30,000,000 four day for Doolittle from a $6,000,000 Friday with that CinemaScore really is not sensible either. That means that they are projecting an increase for it on Monday, which is impossible. They really have the worst analysis, and their numbers are not reasonable.
Christmas Weekend Thread | Avatar 95.6m, PiB 20.05m, Babylon 4.85m 4 days
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What I am really not getting in the theater prospects conversation is the confidence in next year's theatrical projects. If there are a significantly higher number of projects playing in theaters, then yeah, it possibly outgrosses the gross this year. However, just glancing at the schedule nothing appears to be a $400,000,000+ grosser, let alone a $700,000,000 grosser. Is anything even going to outgross Minions?
The Little Mermaid will not be as big as some here are expecting since it has become embroiled within the culture wars. The new Indiana Jones is not going to be another Top Gun either because it has a string of sequels already with the newest not having the best reception.
Next year's schedule appears way more barren than this year's. If you believe that this December is bad, then wait until next year's because The Color Purple, Wonka and Aquaman combined are not going to outgross Avatar