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Lot of parallels with The Flash here. Overbudgeted nostalgia trip that studios were super confident in ends up being a flop of massive proportions, with pretty much near universal rejection around the world.
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2 hours ago, LegionWrex said:
Thankfully it seems like Disney is letting it's films breathe a bit. Ant-Man took until the middle of May to hit Disney+ and both Guardians and TLM don't have Disney+ dates yet (probably August/September for both). So my guess is if Elemental doesn't hit until late September/early October it should be fine for the most part.
Elemental is releasing in August in Japan, so even October would be way too early unless they do region specific dates (at minimum, a 6 month window for Japan). Japan is a special case where audiences don't mind waiting many months to watch a film, so they will happily wait to watch for free on Disney+ if the window is reasonable enough.
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What a disaster. Might not gross even half of Crystal Skull unadjusted.
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4 minutes ago, MG10 said:
At least they answered, I wrote 3 different emails to Boxofficemojo to ask them to adjust the data of some famous movies re-releases that had grossed a few thousand euros but on the site appeared to have a gross of 2/3 million or even more
Same experience here. Have not gotten any response back from BOM whereas The Numbers is quite good at responding to correction requests.
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38 minutes ago, DisposedData said:
Oh I guess this makes sense! However reported numbers by mojo are lower than the studio reported 766.5m on Sunday as well 🙄
That is strange, I'm not sure what's going on at BOM. Also weird this issue is only affecting these two movies. I don't think I saw a major discrepancy between the two sites for previous Universal films like Minions 2 or JWD.
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6 hours ago, DisposedData said:
The discrepancy between Box office mojo and TheNumbers for the international gross is driving me crazy. Mojo has it lower than where it should be and TheNumbers seems to have it too high. What's so hard about updating correctly?
I reached out to The Numbers to find out what the source of the discrepancy is. It seems BOM uses official numbers provided by Universal, whereas the Numbers is also using numbers provided by local film boards. The main issue appears to be the inclusion of numbers from the Russian film board, which Universal is not including in their own numbers possibly due to it being an unofficial distribution due to the boycott. There are also some small differences with Universal vs local film boards, with some markets reporting higher numbers than Universal. That explains the large gap in Universal's OS numbers on BOM vs The Numbers, particularly for Fast X.
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4 minutes ago, Bob Train said:
How much did Lost in the Stars do? That probably won worldwide but not sure
Looks like that had a $97.5 million OW in China.
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6 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
But why? It's a superior movie to TLM lets not pretend it isn't. So why is this mid movie received better? I know that Japan is crazy about musicals but c'mon! Over AWOW is just absurd!
But TLM hasn't passed AWOW in Japan? It had one good hold after a harsh drop last week, but where it finishes remains to be seen. I haven't seen any sign that it is noticeably better received either.
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Is South Korea going to be the only market where Elemental beats Mario?
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This is why we need region specific dates for Disney+. You can’t have staggered theatrical release dates and not delay the streaming date accordingly for those markets. Japan already had delayed home video release dates in the past, so this is nothing new for Disney.
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The Numbers has the updated international OW gross at $73,234,450.
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Looks like TLM indeed benefited most from Juneteenth, dropping just 6% on Monday affter a pretty depressed Sunday.
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16 hours ago, Borobudur said:
I don't think $700m is any longer possible with that hold but at least will overtake Full river red to become WW 3rd highest grossing movie of the year.
Depends if we use BOM or The Numbers. The latter has a higher OS total for some reason.
Domestic Box Office $142,473,000 Details International Box Office $551,883,980 Details Worldwide Box Office $694,356,980 -
1 hour ago, Belakor said:
I don't think so, aren't they so racist studios have to remove color protagonists from posters, and TLM bombed because of that?
The Rock is one of the bigger Hollywood stars in China even if you exclude the Fast and Furious films. Looking at films where he was the lead, San Andreas and Skyscraper both grossed around $100 million in China while Rampage grossed over $150 million.
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4 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
Did Disney ever provide revised estimates? I thought it was believed Guardians 3 came in closer to 5.5 than 5.0 but I never saw that updated.
They did on The Numbers. $11,051,544 for TLM and $5,287,377 for GotG3. The latter did increase 20% on Father's Day whereas TLM dropped 35%. Elemental dropped 18% on Sunday for an OW of $29,602,429.
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Looks like TLM had its harshest Sunday drop yet at 35% versus the sub-20% the past 2 weeks. Not only did it not benefit from Father's Day or Monday being a holiday at all, it actually had the opposite effect. Makes sense in retrospect, as this is not a male-skewing film at all.
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I guess the Numbers has a problem with Universal updates because both Fast X and Mario just went up another $9-10 million from those OS estimates above. They've had the same issue for the past month now.
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2 minutes ago, XXRkham Asylum said:
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It's crazy how the WW number could end up lower than the DOM forecast from a month ago.
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15 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Illumination/Universal never had an entire “boycott the company” campaign like Disney got last year.
A lot of that just seemed like online bluster to me. The US Disney parks are almost back to pre-pandemic levels, which wouldn't be possible without significant support from red states. Maybe there is a percentage of people who have actually sworn off Disney products for good in their lives, but I suspect many are just all talk without actually significantly altering their consumer habits.
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Interesting we didn't get an OS weekend estimate this week.
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6 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:
The way they keep mentioning this every weekend but TLM will be more profitable for Disney than these films in terms of merchandising, spin-offs (animated series for children already announced) and likely even streaming
And they still haven't corrected that Lion King number. They're using the animated film's box office and not the remake's.
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1 minute ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
Never really developed great late legs to push it to close to 600M DOM. Remarkable run regardless. Selfishly glad something like Incredibles 2 (even without inflation) comfortably remains the #1 DOM grosser for an animated movie.
A shame Mario's run will end before it got to even take advantage of the summer. I have to admit I didn't see it fizzling out quite so fast after such a monstrous start (it's looking to gross about 1/3 of what Minions 2 did on its 11th weekend), but this summer is incredibly crowded.
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5 minutes ago, Koni said:
Wait, The Numbers has Fast X at $1.62 million for the weekend. Which one is correct?
$2.02 million should be the correct figure. The Numbers has Fast X dropping 58% on Sunday for some reason.
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Steve Rogers Birthday Bash Weekend Thread | 5-Day #s: Indy 83.4, Elemental 18, Spidey 17.65, Sound of Freedom 14.2, No Hard Feelings 11.3
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They should wait until Christmas. Even though domestic run will mostly wrap up by September, there's leggy markets like Japan which don't even release until next month.