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Just now, Borobudur said:
- N Kung Fu Panda 4 Universal $58,300,000 4,035 $14,449 $58,300,000 1 22.83m Saturday
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5 hours ago, leoh said:
lolthese over statements are just funny.
In fact, the luckiest one was Dune. Not because Oppenheimer is far better (in fact both movies achieved cinema highest level possible). However if you know how awarding season works you know why Dune and Denis would not stand a chance against Oppenheimer.
I consider Killers Of the Flower Moon post pandemics best movie. Yet I’m not naive, Nolan and Universal insane award campaign and the first 1 billion ish for a high profile movie since Lord of Rings make Oppenheimer unbeatable.
Don’t be naive, Oscar is not about “the best movie”, it’s the “best movie with the best award campaign”.
Wrong, Netflix run insane award campaign for Roma, Irishman and marriage story but still couldn’t take down best picture. Oppenheimer campaign is not “insane” by any level if you paid attention to award season, they are pretty standard or at most above average.
CODA, or spotlight, didn’t have lavish Oscar campaign but they still won. It is never about best campaign as your proclaim. Don’t get too naive. yes campaign matters but the pre-requisite of that is, you have to be a great movie or best movie in a lot of eyes, and Oppenheimer qualify that criteria.
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I thought 2023 has one of the best lineup in recent years. Typically I only find myself loving three to five movies in the BP lineup , while don't really care or outrightly disliking the rest of them. But for 2023 lineup, I actually like six of them. The highest count since BP expansion to >5 slots, and that is after them totally ignoring my other favourite such as Iron Claw, Air and Margaret.
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2 minutes ago, emoviefan said:
Honestly what is with you and Dune Part 2? The movie is doing really well and all you can focus on and beat the dead horse of there were people who said it would do much better because you have some sort of axe to grind with those people. Move on.
No matter how was the expectation, dune part 2 is already a complete success. Critically acclaimed, A cinemascore/95% audience score , far higher than the first Dune and it is gonna be Oscar darling too. Haters’ failure is complete. Dune 2 is an Oscar blockbuster. Something that some all time highest grossing film can’t accomplish.
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CABRINI (2024)
IMAGINARY (2024)
KUNG FU PANDA 4 (2024)
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KP4 is basically pulling a mini-Minion surprise. The audience score is rising to 86% as well.
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8 hours ago, von Kenni said:
After the second international weekend I can dig up my Dune 1 stats on week by week and market by market performance to compare where this is heading internationally. +50%, +60%, +70% OS or something else. It's doing great in any case but the question is how great?
$400M, $450M, $500M OS?
After China OD, 700m++ is more or less around the final range lands. Being a Friday International Woman Day opener got presale inflated. Saturday's walk up so far is equally tepid as OD and now there is a slight chance that sequel could make less money than the first one, so don't expect China to do heavy lifting job here unless the WOM effect kicks in.
The West still chugging along very great. Italy's Friday was just 27% down from last week and Germany is looking for minimal 15-20% drop. No matter how, I don't expect overseas % to be much higher than 60%.
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I am actually quite curious Panda' Saturday increase. From the start of 2024, I just got a feeling Saturday increase has been stronger and "closer" to pre-pandemic norm but the lack of big opening is hard to test out my theory. Last week Dune had a 41% Saturday increase from Fri, and that is an unusual strong first Saturday bump post-Covid that neither Batman, TGM, JW4 or Avatar 2 or GOTG3 got, and it is not like these movies are poorer received than Dune 2. If Panda too posted stronger Sat bump than usual, that should set a healthy trend for 2024 as a sign of casual moviegoers are coming back indeed in bigger fashion.
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The walk up is disappointingly awful in china for its OD. Probably around $6.3m OD and beaten by the an holdover.
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I just realised the first Dune has a higher top critics score (7.7/10) than Dune 2 (7.6/10).
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21 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:
Charlie is off here for sure. No way it does just 150m this weekend based on presales.
But friday is International woman day, which is a big moviegoing day in China. Typically movie jump >100% on this day, which probably lead to some frontloaded sales.
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3 minutes ago, Minnale101 said:
Hollywood reporter and now deadline
deadline projecting 50 million + ow domestic for kfp4
thats insane to me but hey hope there right hahah
Yeah, I was kind of shocked to see a OW this high. But meanwhile, KP4 actually beat Dune 2 in Malaysia when both opened this past weekend despite Dune 2 having far higher ATP. So we probably underestimate the franchise strength.
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3 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:
none at all, I have no idea why the OW was this big or the PTA that high ... usually such a movie might come in around 150-200k total I'd say, but that's obviously much too low in this case.
I mean, the movie is after all, a German-language movie starring German actor. I believe many would just assume this is a German movie that got big Oscar moment, making the movie far more “appealing” to local.
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7 hours ago, leoh said:
I’ll explain you:You have the estimate numbers given by studios on Sunday. Afterwards you’ll have the actuals on Monday. So every country has an estimate box office followed by actuals next day or so.
Giving you an example: Madame Web OW Sony estimate was 2.9M, then the he actual ended up being $2,864,812.
Hope you get it.
But if the studio or comscore never released an actual figure like Sony, the hell they “verify” this is an actual? You still don’t get it, the final actual number given by WB is above 100m, and that is the way they reported their international actual with the figure ending 000.
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22 minutes ago, leoh said:
not about actuals in the first OW, they usually make a good job.mojo is still the reference, but they usually don’t update the international actuals. For example, One Love made almost 1 million less when Paramount reported its international actuals. They never updated the info. However, they update the international for Madame Web OW, which was 300k over the Sony estimate.
But WB seldom to almost never reported an actual BO with random detailed number like $99,783,744. All of their international update are round up figure ending with 000 so I don't know how the numbers got that "actual" number.
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6 minutes ago, leoh said:
Dune Part Two International actuals.
It ended up being slightly lower than the 100M project by Warner Bros.
International OW: Dune Part Two made $99,783,744
Don't follow the numbers international gross, they are consistently wrong.
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If meme trend keep going , I suppose the younger demo will have better showup rate soon.
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The wonder of the year. Will timeliness eventually backfire?
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I was hoping for a 200m start but Asian and LATAM simply isn’t good enough. Like in Malaysia, dune isn’t even getting second place on the latest weekend chart, not only beaten by KP4 and the first place belong to a local language film.
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“Angel says it spent $6.4 million to market the availability of the free tickets, as well as $1.1 million on third-party fees to facilitate the plan. In all, the number of tickets given away totaled 1,827,634 seats. Harmon said major theater circuits including AMC, Regal and Cinemark had verified the seat stats. “
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I tried to look for answer elsewhere but couldn’t. How exactly Paul turn the table against feyd in the final duel? We clearly saw him being stab quite badly but because of the editing and camerawork’s, I can’t really tell what was going on in the end of the duel.
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15 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Maybe that's data for Friday only since the figure was in the Saturday AM update. I'm not familiar with this. I don't know if there's supposed to be separate figures for OD or OW.
Apparently there are two sampling conducted by cinemascore and postrak. ERC reports the % from cinemascore with male at 59% but postrak has male at 63%. Quite from deadline below:
“Hope is that more women turn out in the days to come: CinemaScore reports that 41% came out, which is a greater share than what PostTrak shows(37%).”
Postrak male % keep dropping from 68% to 65% and now 63%, suggest the female audience are responding to stellar WOM.
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3/08-3/10 Weekend Estimates : KFP 4 : 58,3M , Dune 2 : 46,3M , Imaginary : 10M , Caprini : 7,6M
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