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Our little conversation: [*]You: What he posted is different from what you want to say. [*]Me: Please enlighten because I'm dying to know what I want to say... [*]You: No, you enlighten yourself please. I'm tired. [*]Me: Please go away. You're out of your element. I admit to having a short fuse sometimes but how the heck am I supposed to react to the above? Sorry if you feel I went to far.

Why do I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.All I've been saying is that DW has upped its game. That is all.

Please go away. You're out of your element.

Please enlighten because I'm dying to know what I want to say...

What did I say here?

It really is very sad that we've spent all this time arguing and speaking over each other that we've stopped listening to each other. I ask you to please go back and objectively read what I've been saying. And, fyi, it isn't what Whoot thinks at all.BTW, I never claimed you were anything like what you described.

I've said all that I'm going to say on the matter. If you choose not to listen, you can do so but I will not be repeating myself.

I will not repeat myself, please go and read what I told Tribe. It's not that far back.

Fine you fell asleep but the critics didn't and they are what matter in the RT rating.

I know its hard but lets please try and act a little grown up with the sleeping comments.

I think Pixar wins clearly until 2009/2010 but after that its all up in the air.

According to RT, that is true for Shark Tale but not so much for all the others you mention.

I don't think much of the movie was shown so its to early to tell. I don't know the guy who tweeted but its possible that he's a car racing fan so that could influence his opinion. I'll wait for more before getting excited.Edit: Here is another tweet from MarioAndretti who said: "At DreamWorks @DWAnimation doing voiceover for animated film "Turbo" coming out next summer. You will love it. Fun! ..."http://twitter.com/M...9599744/photo/1Again, as I said before it makes sense that he would say what he did, because of who he is.

I answered that question in my Edit 2.

I brought up "Delgo" to mean DW isn't the 99th ranking company in the animated field. Of course, you took that and misread it and twisted it to mean something else.Thanks for being objective.Edit: I know you'd like to me to say Pixar is the best but IMO it isn't true anymore. All you have to do is look at the last couple of years to prove my point. The slate of DW is more interesting but Pixar's is into sequels now (something JL made fun of DW for back then).Edit2: Let me be clear, I'm not saying DW is the better studio either, we should judge their next movies on their merits and not by who made them.

There was a screening of parts of "The Croods" and "Turbo yesterday.Here is what GerryDales tweeted: Upcoming Dreamworks animateds all look great. Croods is first, and the 20 min clip was fun and gorgeous. But I thought Turbo looks better.

Since you can't be bothered to read what was said and be impartial. I will synthesize it all into one sentence, can we please catch up the narrative for both studios to today instead of keeping it stuck at 2007.

Wrong. Why don't you try to read what was said before sticking your nose in this and taking sides.Edit: BTW, I wasn't involved much on the boards when Cars2 came out so you assume wrong.

Oh, so you get where Tribe is coming from so why not take a stab at where I'm coming from?

Let me be clear to the both of you, it is true that Pixar has ruled in animation but to pretend it will do so forever is bullshit. All I see is cheerleading but let's look at the last two years for example. DW has put out four movies vs. Pixar's two. All of DW movies have cost less to make, they were better received critically and they've made more than Pixar's globally and it took twice the effort with twice the risk without having a mothers skirt to be under.It's fine by me if you want to project Pixar's past and expect the same for it in the future but anecdotal evidence seems to indicate there is turmoil going on at the studio. I think their future slate except for a few are uninspired and unnecessary, JL is spread to thin, directors firings can't be good, one of their best directors isn't interested in animation right now and another director had to fail before he would get back in the chair. I would hardly call all of this shit happening a moral booster for the studio.Look, I have no problem with Pixar cheerleading but why must there be anti-DW sentiment to go along with it? Do the both of those things have to happen in order to make your favorite standout?Tribe, you asked me to meet you half way but I'm curious to know what that half way mark is to you?Edit: This is supposed to be a club for DW but frankly, I think someone should rename it because there seems to be more things said against it instead of for it.Edit2: I am pretty busy at the moment so if there is a reply to my post, don't expect a quick response.

^ I'd gladly meet you half way but you've left me little wiggle room so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I try to give an inch but as expected you go ahead and take a foot and a half.

Where the heck is that coming from?I have never attacked anyone, we're simply having a conversation and that is all. I could go back and site specific examples that demonstrates what you said about sequels and the such but what will that prove. I think you and Whoot for the most part think alike on sequels and I don't see a problem with that. I believe the effort to make an original vs a sequels is about the same but the reward potential for sequels is better. I don't know what all this back and forward has gotten us so let's just say we'll continue this conversation another time.

I disagree to your thinking on KFP2 but for expediency, I'll leave that to another dayI have never (not even for a second) thought DreamWorks is superior to anyone but I take exception to the oft repeated thinking that it is inferior or lesser of a studio. I wouldn't mind that people thought DWA was a step below Pixar but it isn't fair that some make it seem like they're the ones behind Delgo either.

I'd be happy if the series ended the way it did but don't bet against it ever returning. I think the main reason it will be shelved is because they have their plates full right now.