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1 minute ago, Maggie said:
I just read the article about CHalamet on VULTURE. They say he's the next big star, the next Leo diCaprio. Without much competition in his age bracket and a horde of fans, i think they might be right
https://www.vulture.com/article/timothee-chalamet-movies-next-leading-man.html
Does that make Tom Holland the next Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise?
no, it doesn't make sense
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Great start, I like the content of the reviews, they make it seem like this movie could have great WOM and explode with the GA if they market it just right.
I will really need to try to watch it, gotta make my avatar justice I guess.
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1 hour ago, Hatebox said:
Honestly, I’m fine with bloated budgets being punished even if they’re scorcese and Scott films too. The streaming model/money pit is bullshit and Hollywood seems determined to learn the hard way.
People love (me included) saying the budgets nowadays are way too big, but I wonder what would we get if someone took the, say, top 20 yearly budgets of the last 5 years and compared the totals. Would the increase follow inflation or not?
But then again, that’s not fair because of budgets inflated by COVID, is it?
Which brings us another question; are we sure we are not just overreacting to budgets being inflated by COVID and/or by a couple of Apple movies?
I don’t know myself, just throwing scenarios out there.
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2 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
The last shot literally looks so fucking cool in motion and proves my point.
Yeah, I took one look at these stills and went to watch the trailer again and came to the same conclusion.
Mid action sequence stills can look pretty bad for any movie, so that’s a silly thing to point out.
I wonder if the problem some people seem to be having with the visuals here is a problem of expectations.
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40 minutes ago, grim22 said:
The last time Disney gave a movie to Gareth Edwards, they had to reshoot half the movie and pretty much remove him from the creative process at the end.
Has he ever had problems like this before, or since? That sounded more like a Star Wars franchise problem than an Edwards problem to me, but I could be wrong obviously.
Movie turned out well liked as well, the most liked of the Disney era by many actually, which is funny considering everything.
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1 hour ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:
Starting to temper expectations for December. Still optimistic for a few movies but on the whole….it’s gonna be a long few months until March. At least Beyoncé and Hunger Games are showing life.
off topic but is Strange World actually bad? I’ve been curious about checking it out.
Strange World feels like it should have been rewritten a couple of times before it was filmed. It’s very bare bones, which is a pity because the concept is cool and it did wow me in a couple of places. Shame it’s surrounded by blandness.
it’s very inoffensive, makes for a fine
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5 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
You think is absurd that they gave 200M to Scorsese so he can delivery a great movie, bring prestige to the service and win some awards.
But you would like it better if they give 200M to an unknown filmmaker without any clue if even the movie will be good? This is not charity, they have interests doing this, is just not grossing 700M on box office.
And when it comes to Disney most people are celebrating because they’re mostly the responsible for many of our current problems when it comes to diversity in types of movies and now they can’t even bring good movies out of this situation.
Disney should really be giving more movies to someone like Gareth Edwards, for example. Reliable filmmakers who can do well in a studio system and keeping to realistic budgets.
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14 minutes ago, filmlover said:
It's going to be unfortunate if December ends up just as weak as November or worse (and to be truly honest, it looks like it might) because looking at the schedule for the first few months of the year, we're going to be in for quite a dry spell (the most high-profile release during the January/February corridor being...Madame Web, I guess? Yikes).
Movie theaters really need Wonka and Aquaman to be well received… Otherwise this might really become a bloodbath where everyone in the industry loses. And that’s not good for the audience in the long run either.
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20 minutes ago, JimmyB said:
Do social media reactions move the needle anymore? The over the top positive reactions read like The Onion and the average moviegoer has been burned so many times by over the top positive reactions and the movie is meh or just bad.
I think they would never have moved the needle for a movie like Wonka in any time period, ever. They used to move the needle for movies with heavy fan rush, like YA movies or CBMs, but I agree that nowadays even that has diminished a lot.
Even RT doesn't move the needle as much for many movies as it used to. I think many people now have just gone back to literally waiting on WOM before deciding to get a ticket, which is definitely not good news for the industry.
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4 hours ago, emoviefan said:
Not once did I watch this trailer and say it looks like Peyton Reed directed it but that's just me
Peyton Reed is generally a competent director. George Miller is on another level.
I haven't been to the movie theater so much this year (life), but I'll try m hardest to be there for this one. I really wish I had seen the first one on a big screen back then, I regret I haven't.
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4 hours ago, Bob Train said:
This thread is pretty dead compared to Marvels 3 weeks before release. I guess people aren't even interested in laughing at the ashes of the DCEU anymore...
I'm sure the Superman: Legacy thread will have huge page count though, but we'll get there when we get there.
No surprises here I guess, everyone has been expecting bad numbers for months, and then guess what, bad numbers are coming. The Marvels prepared everyone for this one doing similarly. It’s rather tedious.
Itll probably get some movement with social media reactions and reviews. When are these coming?
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32 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:
This is pure everything
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41 minutes ago, dudalb said:
I think collapsing is too strong a term, but their days as a dominent genre are through.
Od xouree, some CBM's will do well question is Aquaman 2 one of them. It's not 2018.
I think alot people here are having problems accepting that CBM's days of dominance are over.
And I don't see any Genre becoming as dominant. We are entering a perios in which we might not have a single dominant genre. Not sold that Video game movies will take CBM's place.
It's not about video games or CBMs, or animes, or toys. It's about strong IPs with nostalgic value. It doesn't matter where the IP actually comes from, if it touched enough people during their childhood and the film is half decent, or at least gives people what they want out of that IP, it will do well.
That's the actual trend that has gotten very strong since COVID. Nostalgia is comfort, people need comfort.
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26 minutes ago, YM! said:
If that 11-15M range is true for Migration, and is more Ferdinand than Puss 2, then maybe original animation is dead as a whole.
This is depressing, streaming really killing family interesting.
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31 minutes ago, DInky said:
What Iger said only one year ago. Clearly, he didn't believe any of this.
There is only one thing guys like him believe in, and that’s making money. Everything they do and say is all about making money, you can’t really trust anything they say especially when they’re trying to save their own ass, as I’ve said earlier.
As a CEO of a big company you gotta be really good at saying what you think your shareholders need to hear at the time, facts be damned.
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44 minutes ago, KC7 said:
Solid numbers, Deadline though.
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It's hilariously sad how out of touch Iger sounds.
Just trying to save his own ass, I guess.
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13 hours ago, SpiderByte said:
Oh absolutely, but hey everyone wanted him gone so there ain't no friends in a takeover.
Igers point that COVID also meant a lot of projects had less direct oversight is also a good point, especially Feige. I think delegating more of the TV side to TV producers and freeing him up is a smart move.
Feige should never ever been in the position to having to oversee the TV side and the movie side of the MCU at the same time. It's so obvious that he's stretched thin as hell and everything MCU suffered as a result, it's not even funny.
Whoever decided(him or Iger or someone else) to let him handle everything without delegating stuff really messed up.
10 hours ago, Gavin Feng said:Disney currently is just like my country:
- local officials / creatives think they have no executive / creative control to do anything good
- central leadership / studio executives believe they need more control over their teams
I guess they need more time to fix it. Like...2035?
This is actually not a bad analogy at all. I am sure this disconnect is big inside Disney.
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I sometimes feel like this forum puts too much stock on RT ratings. In the past it seems like it was mostly a meme to use it to laugh at CBMs (RT watches for big CBMs were a huge thing here in the past) but people didn't care so much about it when it came to anything else.
It feels like this one will be a lot more about WOM than RT.
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3 hours ago, TomThomas said:
Reception differs on different sites, but it's well below 7 on foreign ones I checked and will be below 7 on imdb in a couple of years with its current drop rate. It doesn't deserve its critics score when far superior Predator 1 and 2 were trashed by critics on release, even Predators was better.
What? It's literally the second best rated in imdb by far after the first one. What an odd argument that doesn't help you at all.
I didn't even know people who disliked Prey as must as you seem to even existed. It's a very solid action flick.
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2 hours ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:
It's weird how no one is upset Leo didn't come to theaters, but had Wish or Trolls gone directly to streaming, there'd be a lot of people loudly pissed off at Disney and Universal for losing out on theatrical profits.
People are well aware of Adam Sandler's contract with Netflix and have had already a long time to digest that Adam Sandler isn't coming to the theaters anymore I guess.
47 minutes ago, Eric Bonaparte said:95% of Netflix movies would not be a hit if they got a theatrical release and this also isn’t an NTC, so…yeah, it wouldn’t make anything lol
Yup, Netflix is mostly in the business of making Direct to Video movies nowadays, movies that would just be flops, but they release on their platform and people watch them automatically. It's comfort food, simple as that, that's the Netflix model.
Occasionally they release something a little more special just to change things up a little, but it's mostly just fast food.
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5 minutes ago, SaltyPistola said:
Encato?
Eh, I guess we aren’t talking about Bruno then.
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Starting to feel more positive about my 300M club again. I trust in Paul King! Let's hope it translates into good reviews and then good WOM.
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44 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
Who's to say they won't come in and demand that the movie be reworked into a PG-13 piece in order to maximize profits after the abysmal year they've had? That movie is their last hope, and the pressure on it to deliver will be insane. I just don't see Reynolds and the rest being given R-rated luxuries anymore, not when Disney has everything to lose now. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they are given an R after all, but for the time being I'm preparing myself for an Expendables 3-style edge softening.
Imagine telling Ryan Reynolds that he'll need to soften Deadpool after the experiences he's had with Green Lantern and X-Men Origins and how much he's worked to get this particular Deadpool done.
No really, you do the imagining, because I can't.
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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
in Box Office Discussion
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I'm really curious about how Wonka will do in the next couple of days with the reviews out.