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  1. 3 hours ago, Wafflecakes said:

    Not sure what to make of the KFP4 apparent overperformance. With the gap between the last two installments, and the fact that before that grosses (in the US) were going down with each entry, it seems weird to have the pop up. I haven't heard that much chatter about it.

     

    That said, I love the first 3 films so I am not complaining. I just don't think social media by itself can explain it.

    I guess the Netflix Series made up for the big gap between movies. 

     

    And still a thing: Families are desperate for new material. It's ridiculous, how Hollywood gave up on pretty much 2 quadrants, when they shipped kids movies and women material to Netflix. Not to mention, how a 4Q-Genre, comedy, was completely slaughtered and neglected.

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  2. One thing to keep in mind for the panda is the fact, that it had a hard time being trailered in theaters for at least a month now with only Wonka and Migration keeping the family movie on life support. That's for sure something unusual. So maybe that lack of awareness will be made up by better legs, especially due to the fact, that the Panda is the only life support until Garfield opens in more than 2 months. 

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  3. 2 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:

    Absolutely no one who actually greenlights movies cares about admits, it's all about gross and revenue. If admits were king Mario would trump everything last year.

    Well, theater owners should care, because admits sell popcorn and soft drinks.

    There will be a breaking point, when higher premium-prices won't make up for the loss of admissions. 

  4. 1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:

    Not impressed with Kung Fu panda at all. Was expecting a breakout but nothing so far

     

    We were expecting a breakout for part 2 and that one never happened, despite the first one being a pretty nice and charming movie. So why would it break out, when the series dropped from movie to movie? 

     

    But Dreamworks is a quite weird case overall.

    How to train your Dragon didn't break out. Madagascar topped the franchise with the worst part, while the second even dropped from the first.

  5. I hope this is when people finally understand the difference, that pretty much all Netflix Romcoms (with some exceptions especially in the teen-department) are horribly written, lazy and pretty much always lack chemistry. Ticket to Paradise or ABY are great reminders, that even if the story is not oscar worthy, a great couple of actors with charme and chemistry just make a good time at the theaters. 

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  6. 8 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

    Do people care about disaster flicks in general at all anymore? The last hit was what… San Andreas? 
     

    Those feel like extremely “stuck in 90s and 00s” premises for blockbusters. 

    And that one had Dwayne Johnson only a couple of weeks after Fast 7 reached the prime of the franchise...

     

     

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  7. 37 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

    Summer and beyond doesn't look too bad, does it? And every year, there are surprises that pop up from indie studios.

    Well, It depends. 

     

    I just had a random look into 2013.

    It turned out to have the following movies in Summer:

    Iron Man 3
    Despicable Me 2
    Man of Steel
    Monsters University
    Fast 6
    Star Trek into Darkness
    World War Z
    The Heat
    We're the Millers (Yeah, Comedy was a thing back then!)
    The Great Gatsby
    The Conjuring
    Grown Ups 2
    Wolverine
    Now you See me
    The Butler
    Hangover 3
    Epic
    Pacific Rim
    This is the End

    And that's only Movies doing $100m.

     

    I had a look at my personal prediction for 2013 in December 2012, and it looked like this (summer Movies in bold)

     

    1

    425

    Iron Man 3

    2

    350 Die Tribute von Panem 2

    3

    325

    Ich - Einfach unverbesserlich 2

    3

    325

    Der Hobbit 2

    5

    300 Star Trek 2

    5

    300 Man of Steel

    7

    260 Die Monster Uni

    8

    200 Gravity

    8

    200

    Thor 2

    10

    185 Fast & Furious 6

    11

    175 Epic
    11

    175

    The Wolverine
    11 175 White House Down
    13

    165

    Die Croods

    14 160

    Frozen

    15 155 G.I. Joe 2
    16

    150

    Die zauberhafte Welt von Oz
    16 150 Hangover 3
    16 150 The End of the World
    16 150 Cloudy 2
    16 150 The Heat
    16 150 After Earth

     

     

    So as you can see, i went with 13 movies crossing $150m that summer. Obviously, I was off by quite a bit on some, quite good on others. Looking at 2024 thoug, well, I really struggle to even find 5 movies I see crossing $150m with confidence. Those would be Deadpool 3, Despicable Me 4, Furiosa and Inside Out 2 and maybe Bad Boys 4, but I wouldn't bet my house on that one. Garfield would be a good bet as well, but am I certain? No, not really. 

    That's why 2024 is different from everything we knew by quite a margin. It's a lack of movies, paired with a lack of sequels, that leaves a pretty uncertain future. As I said, it leaves a path for excitement and surprises, but all the Unknowns have to deliver. And there is no much room for failure. 

     

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  8. I don't get it. 

     

    14 years ago, top 4 movies pulled $70m on CD with WAY lower ATP. Shows are selling out left and right, and still the Top movies only generate barely $50m in 2023? 

     

    Jesus, even Into the Woods smashed $15m on CD. TCP looked so much bigger...

     

     

    I think we have a huge shift from matinee and late shows to only the prime time showtimes, I have no other explanantion. 

     

    Just seems like the old magical days of BO wonder are past us. 

     

    And yes, $16m is still great. 

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  9. 22 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

    I’m starting to think Les Mis unadjusted to Les Mis adjusted could be a great comp range for TCP. 18 Xmas OD, 150 DOM for that. Adjusted would mean about 26m Xmas OD and 200 DOM.  Think that’s the range here. 

    I'm not sure.

     

    TCP has way more potential to reach a wider audience with its approach over christmas. Les Miserables is a huge downer, while TCP will leave the audience most probably on a way more positive note. 

     

     

  10. 4 minutes ago, tdangie said:


    With FNAF overperforming, I highly doubt any movie is gonna move up their release date at this point. Not sure how huge the second week drop is for FNAF due to the Peacock release, but I guess that's gonna depend on the movie's reviews and reception in the fandom.

    Trolls 3 has pretty much no overlap with FNAF, even if that one does 50m 2nd WE, it doesn't matter. Wish opening the week after is a way bigger issue and I actually can't believe that they gave up on a schedule that worked out perfectly fine in the past with Drreamworks opening early in November/End of October and Disney opening over TG.

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