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6 hours ago, AniNate said:
Yeah they didn't advertise the Frozen songs at all until the final trailer, and Let it Go was hidden until I think the few weeks before release. They did that with Tangled too.
That is something I've appreciated about the Wish marketing so far, they're not hiding that it's a musical. Despite the reservations I do have it's been one of their more relatively unannoying campaigns so far.
Frozen was the movie that marked the comeback of musicals as something cool. They desperately tried to hide any musical stuff, especially with Tangled before. They probably had no Idea that that problematic movie was the big turning point, but for some reason they thought, that marketing it that way was the reason for the movies success and did the same with Frozen to attract boys as well.
The rest is history. After that, musicals were everywhere, animated and real.
I hope Wish marks the comeback of Disney away from Disney+.
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Elemental might still cross the 2m admissions mark.
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On 8/5/2023 at 11:06 AM, titanic2187 said:
Is summer 2023 in Germany better than 2022? The top performer seem to be on par with last year's TGM and Minion.
Yes it is.
From may until the past week, Top 10 movies made 2,5m more admissions compared to 2022. Source: http://www.insidekino.de/DTop10/23/DTop23AUG3.htmOn the left side is a y2y comparison.
Overall the year isa ste into the right direction with numbers close to 2018/2019. I don't think the rest of the year will hold pace though.
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On 7/30/2023 at 11:39 AM, IndustriousAngel said:
I have no idea why it's dropping on a weekend wehere most everything increased ... I've seen it, it's an ok actioner, pretty entertaining - just doesn't cut it with the general audiences it seems.
It dropped because it got big spillover business on Barbenheimer OW and lost capacities the following weekend.
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This one is definetely outpacing the original in Germany. Yeah, bad weather helps, but it's a big surprise.
France looks to open in the same region as the first movie as well.
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9 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:
truth be told, the only thing keeping Oppenheimer from #1 in admissions is the running time ... shows were selling out in the evening but there were just too few of them over the day to compete with Barbie, admission-wise.
Overall, from one of the worst ever July weekends to one of the best - a very welcome relief for the near-dead BO!
That's not the whole story. Problem is, that people are extremely focussed on eveneing shows now and don't compromise in chosing afternoon/matinee showings instead. Also the running time is obviously not very late night friendly, but as many cinemas don't do them anymore...well, with no offer, there's no room for growth.
It's not only a german phenomenon, though. It's pretty much also the reason, why Barbie scored such a great Sunday in the US.
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1 minute ago, cannastop said:
well the same is true domestically really
Of Course. Inflation is making up for it in box office terms, but admission wise it probably ends up around "The Good Dinosaur". Disney + and Covid were a deadly combo for kids and family entertainment in theaters.
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On 7/22/2023 at 9:27 AM, across the Jat verse said:
Germany once again week on week increase. Wonder if $600M WW doable. Will need Japan to do well.
Yeah well, Elemental is obviously having great legs and is having a great support by the first bad weather weekend in ages, but the sad truth is, that it will just barely crawl past 1m admissions and is battling Cars 3 as the 19th best Pixar-Admissions, only beating "Onward", "The Good Dinosaur" and "Toy Story 4".
I mean, how the mighty have fallen from the golden Pixar age in Germany.
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9 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
its just a prediction at this point. Looking at OD Barbie number, I am hoping it goes lot higher.
It's a reasonable prediction, though.
I gues The Lion King as one of the recent summer monsters did a 5,15 multiplier from OD. I think BArbie might be just a slight bit more frontloaded than that.
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10 minutes ago, Skim Beeble said:Does SOF's run just seem like such a fever dream to anyone else? I'm not denying it has made a lot of money it just seems so... odd. Maybe it has to do with the fact that no one has heard about it until release, but it doesn't seem like a real thing that is taking place, yet it is lol.
It's not the first movie targeting a certain and "forgotten" crowd that breaks out. Every now and then there are those faith based movies that score alongside the mainstream.
Any idea though, why tuesdays don't do much for the movie?
Might it be due to it playing exceptionally well in rural areas outside of chains with no cheap tuesday?
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3 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
Used to put it right in the subject line more often iirc. Not sure why it's not done as often now.
I know, but it started with not being updated after early deadline estimates long ago and there basically never was an update with the latest numbers.
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Isn't there any way to pin all the current essential box office information anywhere in these weekend threads, instead of having to fight through pages of pages? Following the "Insiders" doesn't always help, because it doesn't always link to their only posting in the topic.
I would really appreciate it.
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We are seeing some very nice and leggy runs for TF7, Elemental or No Hard Feelings here.
Elemental obviously as a stand out, but NHF clearing 50m with a 15m-Start is some nice relieve on a low scale for the Studio as well.
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4 minutes ago, AniNate said:
I'm not sure I want to buy that Deadline estimate for Elemental yet but that would be insane if it holds
It won't do 8,8m with 2,5m on friday, that one should be quite sure.
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Close to $9m for Indy would be amazing.
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Yeah well, with Joy Ride having a tough time as well, the comedy genre really is in danger to even survive at the movies.
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14 minutes ago, Eric Bunny said:
Moderation
I have no idea what is happening here, but we're done with whatever the heck @rebelscum86 is squabbling about and this hyperbole over Elemental's box office. Please talk about the actual numbers, or you will see warning points.
Why wouldn't you just suggest to have the discussion they obviously put some thought and time into to another and more fitting place, instead of such a condescending statement?
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45 minutes ago, baumer said:
It's not a conspiracy movie it's about human and child trafficking. That's very real.
Interesting, isn't it? I never said it was a conspiracy movie. It leads the viewers to the conspiracy theories the makers are spreading. That's the whole point of the movie. First step: Tell them a story about child trafficking, something horrible and very real. 2nd step: Use their emotion to tell them about Adrenochrome and Elites eating those children on other platforms.
People will tell you that way too often, but unfortunately those people aren't dumb and know what they do. They are again and again underestimated and belittled. Their biggest strenght.
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I will never understand how people in this day and age aren't able to use all the options to educate themselves and instead believe the unbelievable. The result ist a movie like " Sound o Freedom", a propaganda medium for QAnon, being successful.
Humanity is regressing and this is only the beginning.
Nothing wrong with telling a story the movie does, but just like the persons behind it, it's selling proven lies as the truth and is nothing else but an instrument to give certain consiracy theories more substance, packed in a successful movie that HAS to be right.
Well, it's also a democratic choice to regress, so everybody is obviously free to believe and watch what they like.
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1 hour ago, AniNate said:
Even though it flopped I imagine Gillman took away some of the family audiences that might've otherwise seen Spiderverse and Elemental, hence not great holds. Fortunately looks like they have a clearer path through July.
How would a 5 Million opener take away family audience? The holds overall are pretty weak this friday.
Cinema we knew is about to die. The emptier the cinemas get, the heavier and faster the downfall strikes.
Those inflated dollar-results can't cover up the decline any longer. The theaters are empty and finding a sold out show is getting rarer and rarer.
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1 hour ago, excel1 said:
Pirates 1 would be an iconic classic even without Depp's mesmerizing performance. Such great editing, shot selection, production values, brilliance.
I don't think so. Pirate movies were a tough sell for years at the BO and even the opening of Pirates wasn't great with a $70m over 5 days.
You can't chop off a big piece of a success movie and expect it would still work. The tone Depp set was what the whole movie is all about and it just connected with the audiences and made the movie complete.
Imagine the movie with Russel Crowe as Jack Sparrow and while it would still be a good movie to look at, I don't think it would have been a great experience with a darker and less fun tone.
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Very good hold for Elemental. This should be able to leg out to more than $125m now.
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I'm very concerend about kids movies.
It seems like parents learned to save time parking the kids in front of a tv watching streams instead of going to the movies as a family experience.
The problem is: Those kids are the future of cinema. If they don't learn to go to the movies from the beginning, tey won't start at the age of 16. Those kids might be lost forever and that's pretty much the worst case for movies and cinemas.
Yes, I know that Mario was a smash, but the amount of kids movies overall playing in theaters is tiny nowadays.
I guess it's not too easy to figure out why Pixar is hit that hard. Other movies will be on streaming too, but I guess it's still a big part of the problem.
As for No Hard feeligs: I really hope it gets better later. I was so rooting for themovie. Poeple seem to have forgotten how great comedies are when watched in a theater instead of at home on Netflix while scrolling through your Instagram.
I don't want every genre to die until only Superhero movies are left.
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20 minutes ago, XXRkham Asylum said:
If Saturday was 18, you could bump Sunday up about 1.5 since Monday is a federal holiday.
And Sunday is Fathers's Day, so it could basically be flat or even increase on sunday.
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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
in Box Office Discussion
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Trolls 3 has pretty much no overlap with FNAF, even if that one does 50m 2nd WE, it doesn't matter. Wish opening the week after is a way bigger issue and I actually can't believe that they gave up on a schedule that worked out perfectly fine in the past with Drreamworks opening early in November/End of October and Disney opening over TG.