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Thinking Black Panther is going to be the GOTG/Deadpool/Wonder Woman breakout superhero movie of 2018.

Of course not. But it seems likely.

http://variety.com/2017/film/box-office/box-office-war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-opening-weekend-tracking-1202486697/ Apes: $55M-$65M

So was Cars 2.

Hopefully Black Panther doesn't suffer.

Remember Moana or TGD. Definitely say more Strange and RO (and TFA) commercials on TV and even on kid channels like Nick or Disney XD.

Imagine the outrage.

It'll likely be the typical 90-105 minutes with an intermission after the short. Showtimes are going to be ridiculous.

Not to mention, Disney may put in little effort in marketing since they have two bigger hits to focus on: Thor and Jedi.

22 minutes of songs and Olaf. Not to mention it's likely to be on ABC a few weeks later too.

I'm thinking the combined domestic total of Paddington 2, Arctic Squad, Peter Rabbit, Early Man, Gnomes, and Sgt Stubby (I would add in the Laika film but I don't think it's happening) is under the domestic total of Zootopia.

Frozen Fever didn't help Cinderella. It tracked at $70M and opened at $70M finishing at $200M.

Nah, I've given up on the whole The Star over $150M theory for now until a trailer drops and I can gauge the reaction. Ferdinand on the other hand, I have always thought best case scenario was $110M.

Thinking $65M-$100M for both.

Moana (in terms of competition family wise) faced Strange ($232M), Trolls ($150M), Beasts ($233M) before release and after release dealt with Rogue One ($533M), and Sing ($270M). Thor will likely be bigger than Strange ($250M-$320M), The Star should do $65M-$100M but if it catches on it could do $150M, Daddy's Home 2 could also do $65M-$100M, JL is definitely going to be bigger than Beasts ($375M-$425M). After Coco release it has competition from Jedi which will definitely be bigger than Rogue One ($700M-$850M), and Ferdinand which seems likely for $85M-$100M both on the same weekend. Then Jumanji opens the next weekend and could do $160M-$170M and maybe even $200M+, Showman is also another musical which could draw in families, ($85M-$100M).

Coco: $220M = Ferdinand $100M + Star $120M

Wonder Woman was also the first good female superhero movie and caught on like wildfire, while the other films in the summer where in hindsight unwanted sequels.

Coco has a lot of family competition from Daddy's Home 2, The Star, Jumanji, and Ferdinand. Not to mention, JL, Thor, and Star Wars will take families too. Also I wouldn't be surprised if the marketing is so-so.

The first half of 2018 for animated films also looks weak outside of Incredibles 2. I think in all honesty the combined domestic total of Paddington 2, Arctic Squad, Peter Rabbit, Early Man, Gnomes, and Sgt Stubby (I would add in the Laika film but I don't think it's happening) is under the domestic total of Zootopia.

Thinking under BH6 for Coco.

Same here.

I'm not even sure $10M OW is likely. Thinking: $1.25B OW (Beast's run) for Valerian $4M OW for Dunkirk

Anyone ( @That One Guy) have a Valerian over Dunkirk club yet cause I can see it happening.

Animation in 2018, I can see potentially only three movies over the $200M mark domestically, Incredibles 2, Grinch, and Spider-Man: The Animated Movie, and that one is a longshot. 2018 looks kind of weak for animated movies.

I think KFP3 numbers is best case scenario for it.