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Just now, HummingLemon496 said:
He's expecting word of mouth collapse probably
It doesn't even matter for this weekend...people need to go somewhere with family, and an inoffensive and happy super will be a multi-generational easy call...
It was smart to not "take risks" in a Xmas supers release. Everyone just wants to be happy this time of year, so cheering on a supers win gets that done...
AFTER folks stop seeing family, then WOM can destroy the film...but it's gonna be WOM-proof for the weekend...
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9 minutes ago, Legion Again said:
Fwiw I’m guessing B still.
Keyser says Fri is looking good, so maybe — 4.5-9.5-8-3.5-8.5 //25.5, 34 // 100
Sat and Sun too low for Aquaman if true Friday is 9.5...
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1 hour ago, filmlover said:
Sunday's going to be a pretty rough day due to theaters closing early cause of Christmas Eve but big rebounds should happen starting Monday, provided the movies aren't frontloaded of course.
In good news, the last show of the night (which is the one most theaters are canceling) is the lowest attended on Sundays, so it will be bad, but not as bad as it could be if it were a Thurs/Fri/Sat...
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So, they made Aquaman a kid/mom GA movie vs a fan movie?
"General audiences in Comscore/Screen Engine PostTrak exits did not like Aquaman 2 with 3 stars last night and a 50% recommend, and that’s the time when the big fans shows up. Ugh. However, parents gave it 5 stars (slightly more moms at 51%) and kids under 12 gave it 4 stars (66% boys), so perhaps they save this movie in the end."
Edit to Add: Seems to repeat for Migration...
"nor are audiences with PostTrak scores of 4 1/2 stars for parents and 5 stars for kids under 12. General moviegoers didn’t have the patience for this Benjamin Renner and Guylo Homsy directed animated film about ducks at 3 1/2 stars and 51%."
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8 minutes ago, VanillaSkies said:
Wait. Salaar made 2.6 million in Thursday previews?$25 tickets at my Cinemark (it was some special something)...that helped...
Normal tickets are $16.50.
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If we're rating best DCEU movie...
It's Wonder Woman by a mile...and then Shazam 1.
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TMobile and Atom offering a Christmas present next week - $5 off ANY movie, so it should be a widespread benefit for a week+, not actually targeting any movie, but hopefully helping get some folks off the couch and in with fewer blockbusters this season...
Starts Dec 26...
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4 minutes ago, Porthos said:
Maybe I'm out of the loop*, but aren't Storm, Rogue, and Jean Grey considered some of "the best characters" in the entire run of the comic?
* I am not out of the loop, ftr, I was employing a rhetorical device here
Rogue is tough to film if you use her true powers, though, too b/c a power swiper becomes just so powerful - see the Hero tv show where they let one be the single big bad for season 1. It's why they went the way of her being so standoffish, alone, and fearful in the 1st set of movies. If you let her permanently steal everyone's powers, what's the point of the rest of the team?
It's why I left her out of my lineup - too powerful against the rest of the team. Dazzler was my swap b/c she can be fun, too, and she has no "superman plot" problems...
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2 hours ago, SpiderByte said:
...why do you assume they're gender swapping them and not just like having Jean Storm and Rogue on the team?
I don't see why your logic with The Marvels is "never have female superheroes appear again"
I'd expect Jean Grey and Cyclops to co-lead, since Sinister is obsessed with Cyclops, and secondarily, Grey (enough that he clones her eventually) b/c he believes their 2 bloodlines combine to make the perfect superhuman.
Not sure they are going with that type of plot line, but the fact Sinister is SO tied up with Cyclops in the comics (and secondarily Grey) that I'd expect it.
Cyclops, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Storm, Dazzler, Jean - could be a nice lineup. I actually would like Magik, too just b/c she's fun with her brother, but she'd be hard to do on screen in a plot if you're really using her true powers...and I'd also like Emma, but mentalists tend to ruin plots quickly if they are a hero...and 2 mentalists means you have no plot...
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2nd local - non-PLF 12 set. Very interesting set.
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Aquaman - 1.5 screens - no increase
Migration - 2 screens - this is a one screen increase - this theater, as non-PLF and slightly cheaper tickets, does open kid movies better, so that was obviously the play here
Anyone But You - 1 screen
Iron Claw - 1 screen
Salaar - 1 screen
Dunki - .75 screen
Holdovers - again, just the top 5
Wonka - only 1 screen - they are all in on animated
HG-Boss - 1 screen
Godzilla - 1 screen
Boy with Heron - .75 screen
Trolls - 1 screen
GONE
Renaissance, Wish, Shift, Napoleon, Animal, Hi Nanna
For CHRISTMAS
Color Purple - 2 screens - 1 full added
Ferrari - 1 screen (new booking)
GONE Dec 25
Trolls (Migration keeps 2 all week of Xmas, so this theater decided on just new animated), Godzilla, Boy with Heron - they are just getting the extra 3 days, and then only 2 holdovers make Xmas - Wonka and HG-Boss - the other theater keeps all 5 by not booking Ferrari, keeping Color Purple on 1.5 and dropping Godzilla and Trolls to .5 screens and stealing a few random shows. So, the area is balancing the possible holdover market, but they are mostly getting killed. HG-Boss is the run away Nov winner...
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3 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
This makes me excited for a number of reasons.
One: Magneto is great but he's very, very, very overplayed. He's great, but you can only get so many versions of him and Xavier playing chess and saying "were friends but I will stop your methods" and etc.
Two: Sinister. Rules. There's a lot that they can do with him.
Three: It's been said before and I'll repeat it here - THE BEST X-MEN ARE WOMEN. It's not a coincidence so many of Marvels most iconic and famous female characters are also mutants. I'm hopeful that Cyclops will finally, finally get some kind of due, but not having the focus be Wolverine AGAIN alone is a step in the right direction.
I was gonna say - if Mr. Sinister is the villain, Cyclops should be the lead...they have the best interactions in the comics...
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1st local PLF 14 set - Here's what they have so you can see what's staying and what's going. In non-surprising news, this is a set where nothing goes big...and somehow foreign gets a foothold in both new entries and returning. And there is a Monday set, but I'll make that separate b/c it's still being updated - big thing is Color Purple has finally gotten a .5 screen expansion.
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Aquaman - 2 screens (1 PLF/1 not) - no change from presales
Migration - 1 screen - no change from presales
Anyone but You - 1 screen - no change from presales
Iron Claw - 1 screen - new booking
Poor Things - 1 screen - new booking
Salaar - 1.25 screens (1 PLF showing / 1 reg screen) - another foreign movie with more than 1 screen usually says a higher performing one - 1 extra showing from presaales
Dunki - 1.5 screens - .5 extra screens from presales
RETURNING - they kept the top 5
Wonka - 1.5 screens (no change from early presales for the weekend) - .5 PLF/1 reg - shares PLF with Salaar (takes the early shows)
HG - Boss - 1 screen (won the live action war)
Godzilla - 1 screen
Trolls - 1 screen
Boy with the Heron - ,5 screen - early shows - Dunki takes the late ones
GONE - a lot!
Renaissance, Wish (lost the animated fight as expected with Universal saving Trolls), Waitress, Die Hard 35th, The Shift, Napoleon, Animal, Hi Nanna
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Kang is done theatrically. If there's a Loki Season 3, the rest of his possible storyline will be wrapped up there with a new actor playing Kang. And if there's not a Loki Season 3, then the ending of season 2 lets it rest, as does the movie ending of Quantumania (which few saw anyway, so few care about Kang).
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6 minutes ago, nguyenkhoi282 said:
7x doesn't seem to be that absurb of a December multiplier for this kind of movies. Sure it's among the top legs required, but I doubt it's "0.0%).
One big thing, other than Moviepass, is that Jumanji opened as the "2nd holiday choice" in the wake of a huge blockbuster (Star Wars 8). Wonka opened as a "1st holiday choice" with no huge blockbuster immediately taking away audience and screens. In fact, it opened in a relative dead zone with enormous amounts of screens/showings.
The 1st case likely held down opening weekend more than a normal weekend would have. The 2nd case would not.
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16 minutes ago, Poseidon said:
Ruling out $275 Mio for Wonka is quite odd, when Jumanji 2 multiplier already puts it at $211 Mio.
I guess Puss in Boots 2 was a pretty good example of what is possible with a completely deserted first 2 months in terms of kids movies.
Jumanji 2 was during the height of the Movie Pass era. You cannot expect similar multipliers vs that Christmas, when so many folks were getting practically free tickets...
If you were crowd-pleasing then, you got enormous business, especially in repeats...
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17 minutes ago, Borobudur said:
Universal get what they get, There isn't a big promotional campaign surrounding Trolls 3 or Migration. They can't expect them to go exponentially bigger without much input from Universal.
And Trolls is gonna get over $200M WW...and possibly much more, depending how the holidays go WW. That's nothing to sneeze at with animateds...
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By finishing #2, HG-BOSS is gonna win the "which live action film gets held over the most" this Xmas holiday.
Trolls, now being above Wish (and being another Universal product) has won the "which animated film gets held over the most" this Xmas holiday. I expect Universal to allow theaters to not schedule any more Migration showings to give them to Trolls if there's a crunch.
We'll see if Disney has the power to keep Wish in theaters, which I expect would be the 3rd most held.
I expect everything else to fall off en masse, although Godzilla now has the best shot to keep something, with Heron's big drop...
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So, I don't usually post early sets, but I wanted to give a look at my PLF 14, which has already set 8.5 of its 14 screens for Christmas. Surprisingly (or not surprisingly after looking at foreign strength this month), it will have new foreign films opening this holiday - that's a 1st ever for this theater. And it may have more new movies to open, so you can see what films might get for the Christmas week and what is/is not already staying...
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The Color Purple - 1 screen - this will increase, so keep bringing down those "open" screens for holdovers
The Boys in the Boat - 1 screen
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Aquaman - 2 screens - they upped this from their original Xmas day number - 1 PLF / 1 reg - WB is exhibiting power this Xmas
Wonka - 1.5 screens - .5 PLF/1 regular - they upped the early presales by .5 PLF yesterday, which is funny b/c it's not doing particularly well on PLF, but I guess they want something folks will pay for no matter what
Migration - 1 screen (this is 6 shows, so the power of a short movie)
Anyone but You - 1 screen
Salaar - .5 screen - shares evening PLF on Wonka (another surprise) and has all evening shows
Dunki - .5 screen - all evening shows
It's obvious that morning/afternoon shows are being saved on a screen for a holdover animated. But, there's 5.5 screens left, with TCP almost certain to get 1 of those 5 and Migration and/or Trolls/Wish getting .5 for early shows. So, keep counting down for the hope that other Nov/Dec movies can get held (or get opened, since this seems to be missing a bunch of Dec 22/25 openers)...
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28 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:
Interesting that kids are no longer 5 stars. So moms like it (and probably Timmy and Hugh) much more than kids...
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I actually thought it was a parody of a film trailer when I saw the title...maybe it should be looking at some online feedback on the trailer...
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So, Deadline is predicting:
Thursday $3.5M
True Friday $8.5-$9.5M
So, to get to $35M, I guess Deadline is projecting $13-13.5M Sat and $9-9.5M Sun?
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12 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
I know everyone is expecting wonka to be WOM sensation and leg out but 87% on RT for a family movie seem weak no?
It's 88% now with over 100 reviews...but that is low. Especially with Timmy fans likely responding well and in large numbers for opening night.
We'll see if it builds over the weekend.
Edit to Add: For comparison for 2023 non-supers family movies that did well - Mario was 95, Little Mermaid was 94, Elemental was 93, FNAF was 87, Barbie was 83.
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8 hours ago, Borobudur said:
All movies seem to hold on their location quite firmly.
Next week will be a decent weekday week for all movies. All colleges are out, and some K-12 are also out (although much fewer, but still a significant number). And a lot of adults, who take a longer winter break, are also on holiday. Then, the following week will be bonkers and the week after New Years should mimic next week...
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5 minutes ago, JonathanMB said:
Didn't realize that winter break effects kick in this early; the week-to-week drops for Trolls and Wish are quite impressive, even if it means their Friday increases will probably be pitiful (especially with Wonka coming in).
Colleges are all done...so, even without most K-12 out, you have a large group of 18-22 year olds looking to hang out at something...
Christmas Weekend Thread | Xmas Day #s - Purple 18.1, Aqua 10.6, Wonka 10.3, Boys 5.7, Migration 5.4, Ferrari 2.9 | #BlackGirlMagic dominates the charts
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But in teen boy speak, it's little kiddy and lame. That's a choice that isn't as widespread as a super.
Not saying it won't do well, but it's less the "everyone will like it" call, and more the "c'mon Timmy, let's go see this for Mom and Susie - then we'll see Godzilla together without them"...