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So, the weather is bad enough in the middle of the country that KC can't sell playoff tickets for more than $30 and Buffalo has canceled their Sunday afternoon NFL playoff game til Monday night...SO, any movie appealing to the middle of the country will be torched this weekend...
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Just now, cannastop said:
Soul is at the Cinemark closest to me... they even have a listing for Turning Red already.
Oh, the chain has it b/c they offered the 25% off forever tickets deal for these now...just MY 2 Cinemarks didn't book it.
I use mine as a gauge for how things go...with them not even booking, I knew the Soul number would be woeful...
It's kinda like if a foreign film gets 2 screens in presales at my locals, it's gonna be one of the big ones...
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9 minutes ago, grim22 said:
Why would people pay to watch a kids movie which is free on streaming?
Going to a kids movie is a lot of work, get the family ready to be there in time, find parking, get enough concessions for everyone, pay for 3-5 tickets. Versus just pressing play on Disney+
If Disney EVER supported the theater summer movie programs, this would be a $2 ticket for kids to see a summer movie with their mom or camp group. But they don't...and they think they can command full price tickets for current tv product - and they can't.
I'm betting all "sold" tickets were "free" from AMC/Regal subscribers...neither of my Cinemarks even booked this b/c they knew no family was gonna pay and Cinemark subs don't really get "free" tickets b/c they are not unlimited...
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21 minutes ago, dallas said:
Wow, higher than expected for Beekeeper. Solid PostTrak stats as well. This will do better than I initially believed. What's the budget? Because that will determine whether it can be considered a success or a disappointment.
Edit: Correction - that was a different movie:). Unknown but should be under $50M.
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"FRIDAY AFTERNOON: Paramount’s redux of Mean Girls is eyeing $12.3M today, including previews, for what will be a 3-day of $29M and 4-day of $33M at 3,791 theaters.
Amazon MGM’s The Beekeeper possibly has a shot at $20M over 4-days after a $7M Friday, and 3-day of $17M at 3,303 sites."
https://deadline.com/2024/01/box-office-mean-girls-mlk-2024-1235726596/
Deadline Friday update...
Holdovers...
"The fifth weekend of Wonka is looking at a fifth Friday between $1.8M-$2M, which will get it to between $8M-$9M over 3 days and $10M-$12M over four at 3,346 theaters.
Sony’s Sydney Sweeney and Glen Powell romcom sleeper, Anyone But You is seeing a fourth Friday of $2.1M, estimated 3-day of $7.7M, -21% and 4-day of $9.5M at 2,935 locations.
Fifth goes to the fourth weekend of Illumination/Universal’s Migration with a Friday of $1M at 3,214 theaters for a 3 day of $4.7M, 4-day of $6.3M and running cume by end of MLK day of $85.8M.
Legendary/Tri-Star’s The Book of Clarence is crashing with a Friday of $1M, 3-day of $2.4M, 4-day of $3M."
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OT: But since it's an "elements-affecting" weekend, I finally watched Elemental this week to continue my viewing to see if I can find 25 movies to make a 2023 list. Sigh. It wasn't bad - in fact, it may have been the best Disney movie I watched last year (okay, no, GOTG 3 was probably better), but it was mediocre. I was bored through segments of it, I didn't buy the "love" relationship, I hated the canal problem and its continual "solutions", and I didn't like the voice acting of either lead. That said, I REALLY liked the dad/daughter and dad/granddad parts, and almost wish they'd have skipped all the water/fire love stuff to just keep the movie there...
I'd give it a B-...and it's not good enough for the list...
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One thing we never discuss about the $5 Atom deals...it's not always about how much it helps the movie with the deal, but also how much it hurts the movies without it, when GA feels okay about a lot of options and HAS a lot of options...4 19 years olds who can spend $5 each or $20 each just to hang out has an effect...and once they've gone, they may be good for movies for a few weeks...
Like last March - Creed 3 and John Wick 4 had the Atom deals - D&D, Shazam 2, Scream VI did not. A lot of options in that month, and 2 did more than the rest...maybe it was all quality and fanbase, but maybe it wasn't quite just that...
Again, this usually matters the most for male 13-45 drawing movies...so it hopefully won't effect Mean Girls too much b/c that is NOT their lane...but still...
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FYI - Since the Disney Pixar releases are obviously not selling, Cinemark released another "forever" deal for them - 25% off all tickets. The code is NOT good on discount Tuesday, but is good for all other tickets (I guess Disney demanded a minimum revenue per ticket).
Again, this is info only. Like The Color Purple B10G1 free offer, I don't see this national deal moving the needle much, b/c these are 2nd run, and 2nd run kid movies are $2/each in the summer, not $12/each (the deal with regular ticket prices)...
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26 minutes ago, DAJK said:
Yea Mean Girls walkups are really really bad today. Thinking tomorrow will rebound, since sales are still strong. Going to go with 3.5M flat including yesterday.
Beekeeper keeps picking up. No idea what it grossed last weekend, but I could see 1.4-1.5 today. So 2M?
I don’t think Clarence has sold a single ticket here today.
It pays having $5 any ticket codes all weekend...the "why the heck not, what else do I have to do" male 13-45 buyer will come out if the movie is decent enough...
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55 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
I liked it. Not the best of the shows but people acting like it's the worst show ever made are really overblowing it.
It's the opposite of Secret Invasion where it starts strong then totally drops the ball at the end. It starts shaky but IMO pulls through in the later episodes, I especially loved 4.
Dang, if you're saying "not the best"...yikes!
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3 minutes ago, Grand Cine said:
New Leader !!!
Only kids still out are college kids...so this tracks. Well, that and it was senior citizen discount day, on a day when the men were likely watching the college national championships:).
Holidays are over so falls will be brutal week-to-week all week...until maybe Friday, where some schools (and workers) do the 4 day weekend...
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11 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
I am curious what the demo split for Aquabro is looking like. Feel like females are carrying it (despite straight up rejecting The Marvels)
It has great messaging about parent/child relationships and sibling relationships...catnip for moms, on top of any visuals...I'm sure just like they were 5 star givers OW, they have passed on how good the movie is for family viewing to others...
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Non -PLF 12 also set - a little more harsh to holdovers and friendly to new foreign (but with none more than 1 screen, no likely big break)...and Color Purple doesn't survive here, either - here's the set...
NEW
Mean Girls - 1 screen (no change from presales)
Beekeeper - 1 screen (no change from presales)
Guntur Kaaram - 1 screen
Saindhav - 1 screen
3 more foreign - 1.5 shared screens
RETURNING
Wonka - 1 screen (oldest holdover - nothing old got saved)
Aquaman - 1 screen
Migration - 1 screen
Anyone but You - 1 screen
Night Swim - 1 screen
Iron Claw - 1 screen
The Boys in the Boat - .5 screen
GONE
The Color Purple, Ferrari, The Boy with the Heron, Hunger Games BOSS, Trolls, Salaar, another foreign film
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Since it's the 1st real opens after Xmas, I figured I'd update my locals set. In a shock to me, but maybe it shouldn't be, The Color Purple did not survive, even for MLK weekend, at my PLF...wow, just wow...here's the full set...
1st local PLF 14 set
NEW
Mean Girls - 2 screens - 1 PLF, 1 not - no change from presales
The Beekeeper - 2 screens - 1 PLF, 1 not - no change from presales
The Book of Clarence - 1 screen - no change from presales
Gunter Kanaam - 1 screen
RETURNING
Wonka - 1 screen
Aquaman - 1 screen
Migration - 1 screen
American Fiction - 1 screen
Night Swim - 1 screen
Anyone but You - 1 screen
The Boys in the Boat - 1 screen
Iron Claw - .5 screen
Godzilla - .5 screen (oldest holdover now)
GONE
The Color Purple, Poor Things, Trolls 3, Salaar
Poor Things is getting no shot here to get a Globes bounce...
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1 hour ago, Torontofan said:
Yeah x mas really saved the movie and a dead Jan
And the fact that Aquaman 2 is one of the best supers movies in a very bad supers year...
Spiderverse was better...
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was better...
AND nothing else was...
So, if it ends as the 3rd highest supers movie WW for 2023 (very tough with Ant Man 3, but not impossible at this point)...it would be exactly where its quality would warrant where it is...
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22 minutes ago, Juliet said:
Word of mouth from who to who though? Its not a film that is crossing diversity barriers and its not getting young people in. So its hard to see how good word of mouth can help if its stuck in its demo.
It's weird, though...you have subscriber bases at the big 3 where 2 of them get unlimited movies, so normally you get TCP's apparent WOM for a generic blockbuster musical and you get $40-60M DOM more gratis with no work over a holiday period, b/c all the subscribers will eventually wonder in "for free" to catch the new hit...but this movie just seems like it's "one gender/age/demo" only and it REPELS everyone else...
I know someone said it's acting like a gimmick horror...but instead, I'd say it's acting as insular as a niche religious conservative film or a Japanese anime or an Indian Bollywood film - 100% WOM in the tiny group that watches them, but everyone else is like "hell no, you do you, and I'll pass"...
If it wasn't MLK weekend next weekend, I think this would be the big wide drop for the new entries...as is, I expect the following weekend will be...
Edit to Add: Boy, I missed on this one. I haven't missed like this in awhile, but this is what happens when you predict something way out of your lane:)...note to self - go back to animated and supers and family films:)...
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10 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:
Mean Girls MTC1
Wednesday - 11159/22844 243210.91 125 shows
Previews(T-6) - 11544/219917 188539.84 1234 shows
Friday - 16366/370796 260193.32 2003 shows
Its not bad. Previews PS is growing at a fair clip. I am not sure which movie would be a good comp for this one. Just looking at raw data, it looks like around 3m previews and probably mid 20s OW. But let us see close to release how its doing. Weird it has fewer shows so far compared to Beekeeper despite better sales overall.
Beekeeper has the $5 tickets coming...and isn't a musical. So, theaters betting on the Atom deal spurring walk ups as a "why not", especially since there isn't an action movie out over Christmas nor a movie made specifically for males 25+...
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Nightswim's Posttrak - dang...from Deadline...
"Night Swim landed a C CinemaScore which is middling for a horror film. CinemaScore is always harder on horror movie. But even more cynical are Comscore/Screen Engine PostTrak audiences who drowned this latest title from Blumhouse and Atomic Monster with one star and a 45% positive and a 26% recommend, which translates into a don’t-recommend. Near even split between males and females at 51%/49%. Sixty percent of ticketbuyers were between 18-34 with 18-24 year olds the biggest demo at 33%. Diversity demos were 37% Caucasian, 31% Latino, 19% Black, and 7% Asian."
https://deadline.com/2024/01/box-office-night-swim-wonka-1235695828/
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16 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
I’ve had a few people tell me now that Aquabro was enjoyable solely for Momoa… I may have underestimated the appeal he can have (esp with females)
He does carry the movie - he has all the "fun" and best lines, on top of his normal appeal. He sells the movie, almost single-handedly.
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8 minutes ago, Grand Cine said:
https://deadline.com/2024/01/box-office-night-swim-wonka-1235695828/
Already a Friday Update ( it's very early, it's only the morning at the Pacific Coast ) :
Wonka : Fri : 3,8M , Weekend : 12M (-46%)
Night Swim : Fri : 4,7M , Weekend : 11,5M
Migration : Fri : 3M, Weekend : 10,7M (-37%)
Aquaman 2 : Fri : 3M , Weekend : 10M (-45%)
Anyone But You : Fri : 3M , Weekend : 9,5M (+9%!!!)
Boys and The Boat : Fri : 1,5M , Weekend : 5,25M (-37%)
I think all the movies , except Night Swim maybe , are underestimated expecially Wonka
predictions for me :
Wonka : 15,5-16M
Night Swim : 11,5M
Migration : 11,5-12M
Aquaman 2 : 10,5M
Anyone But You : 10M
Boys and the Boat : 5,5M
1st really lousy day up (and down) the East Coast for winter weather from late Friday night-Saturday night, so Deadline is probably staying conservative til that effect is known.
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1 hour ago, AniNate said:
It mostly just reeks of prejudiced dismissal of an idea. Even if it turned out not many were that interested in a Color Purple remake, I still think it's impossible to really draw that conclusion until after the movie comes out.
Nah, Nut Job Never Again was one example of a sequel no one wanted...
If Emoji Movie got one, that would be another...
There are some movies at the concept stage when you think sequel are known to be no one wanted (well, except possibly the people making them)...
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9 hours ago, AniNate said:
In any case we need a moratorium on the phrase "no one asked for it". If it's received well people will show up for it. I know I heard a lot of "no one asked for it" when Finding Dory was announced.
We just had a movie this holiday season that says otherwise. While the phrase is overused, it still is true in some cases. I don't think it applies to a Zootopia 2, but "no one asked for this" does apply for some remakes/sequels/prequels...
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56 minutes ago, M37 said:
I dunno man, who takes them in the summer weekdays when they’re out of school for months?
Swim team coaches and summer camps...especially the latter. It's amazing how many summer camps use movies as the weekly "field trip." It's why some kid movie ALWAYS has to do decently in summer...but it's gotta be animated and "safe" for all ages...
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12 hours ago, ringedmortality said:
Is the 25 mandatory?
The only movie I'm really waiting on watching is Zone of Interest. I guess All of Us Strangers and American Fiction as well, but I don't see either of those making my top 10.
The one year I did this, I did 10. If I'm gonna do it again this year, it's again gonna be 10 b/c I don't think I've seen any more movies (in theaters or at home) that deserve to make a year end list...
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If I was gonna go prequel, original, and sequel, I want the "what if Jar Jar was actually a Sith", "what if Lando stayed a coward and didn't save Leia" and "what if Finn really died a hero"...