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You need to do such a giant box office to achieve that make a profit theatrically mark (depending on what you mean by that), it is really not easy for a movie in the small/mid budget to do, take an giant success and very profitable movie for Sony in that range like Captain Phillips (218 million ww), it didn't came close to that. Captain Philips: World Theatrical rental: 52.147 dbo + 43.77 int = 95.917 million Net Production budget : 59.773 million World theatrical release cost: 98.797 million The movie did a little less from theater than what it did cost to release it, and that is perfectly normal for small to mid budget movie, they rarely do more from tickets sales than the massive cost of a world release, let alone start to pay for any production cost, if you achieve to pay all your release P&A or close to do so just from the theater ticket sales, you are usually in a very good position. It was still 62.65 million in the red without counting the overhead cost (7.17m) and Hanks/Greengrass bonus that started, Captain Philips would have needed to do more than 350 million at the box office to make a profit theatrically for an example of movie with a lower than 60 million budget, no studio make a profit theatrically with a movie like Life imo (and it is not something that happen much in reality really). It could have opened higher with a better release date and maybe a bit better marketing, but the movie got a 46% from RT top critics, C+ cinemascore and a 59% Audience score on RT, i doubt it would have done that much better has a WB release.

That is asking a bit much, you don't find a Lord/Miller/Hill combination making a movie easily and it is not necessarily easy to attract high end proven talent to a project like that. It didn't need to be Jump Street level good. Not sure of that, movie like Chips and Baywatch maybe got the idea/greenlight because of jump street success, but I doubt anyone thought they were success because people wanted old tv show turned into movie and that it was an automatic that it would work.

That is not true for franchise/genre movie too, people even buy ticket in advance before anyone have seen those often and will give them chance if they are fans in general (I even know people that have seen the last Fantastic 4 in theater and do not go in theater often, but will see anything that involve superheroes), in a way Hollywood can dumb sub par shit more than ever with how important the first weekend is and franchise/ip recognition, if they pay for the franchise rights and less than some other era for the rest.

That I'm not sure, chance are an other very similar website will aggregate the score and become the more popular because they have a score sooner. What many people said to shift RT more into a 3 level of scored notes (copying MC in a sense) and giving 1 to positive, 0.5 to mild, 0 to negative instead of a binary when creating the RT score risk to be what happen, 2 studio being partly the owner of RT could make that transition easier to happen if it is what they want. The fact that it didn't change even thought it is own by Comcast and Warner could mean that it is overall a positive (otherwise it is a bit strange that they achieved to keep enough independence to hurt their owner), that people buy more tickets if they see the score in a total year, that it just augment the noise or bad it goes when it goes bad and how good it goes when it goes well. A bit like it is better for amazon to have user reviews there.

There will be a lot of chicken and eggs (big production usually get better review, when they are smaller movie that will get/got better review like an Hidden Figure will get a much bigger marketing push than those who do not like Rough Night and so on) and past opening Thursday night it will become hard to isolate reviews from word of mouth. Some people did try to find a correlation and failed: http://minimaxir.com/2016/01/movie-revenue-ratings/ Usually those people make the big mistake to not separate the movies by genre/budget/number of theater to correctly isolate the reviews effect from the rest (methodology error), when they do a better job (using only wide release movie being a good step) they seem to find a really strong correlation. I think for some movies, that try to reach a discerning audience like say Live by Nights the difference between terrible and great review on the box office would have been huge, was death on arrival with bad one for a movie like that. http://www.metacritic.com/feature/film-quality-vs-box-office-grosses Now how much causation is there in this, who knows, but the correlation is really strong, it goes up and up by every range of MC scores: (FILMS OPENING IN 2,000+ THEATERS) Metascore Range # of Films Avg. Opening Weekend Avg. 2nd Weekend Decline Avg. Multiplier Avg. Total Gross Films scoring 0–19 22 $13,961,514 ▼ 52.5% 2.6 $35,081,918 Films scoring 20–39 301 $16,503,055 ▼ 50.2% 2.8 $47,785,166 all with bad reviews: 323 $16,329,947 ▼ 50.4% 2.8 $46,919,929 Films scoring 40–50 294 $21,353,058 ▼ 49.5% 2.9 $62,658,866 Films scoring 51–60 255 $26,890,484 ▼ 46.2% 3.1 $81,265,377 all with mixed reviews: 549 $23,925,086 ▼ 48.0% 3.0 $71,301,234 Films scoring 61–70 163 $35,480,314 ▼ 44.2% 3.4 $112,446,672 Films scoring 71–80 87 $37,112,105 ▼ 42.1% 3.8 $137,787,032 Films scoring 81–90 29 $49,583,445 ▼ 38.8% 4.3 $197,836,138 Films scoring 91–100 7 $59,076,012 ▼ 37.7% 4.1 $238,356,646 all with positive reviews: 286 $37,984,253 ▼ 42.8% 3.6 $131,895,188

Does that really exist ?, people will have guilty pleasure for stuff they are not supposed to like, say a men that like a movie that target teenage girl, but a movie that got bad reviews, usually people are almost proud of it, and scream critics went overboard and I like it without any issue. I have no shame in liking some segment of Movie 43 or loving Spring Breaker, not at all, I cannot imagine one example of that, I'm sure you do not either so I'm not sure why we project that to anyone (to who ?) Maybe it exist for someone prominent, but even known director will often have movie without good reviews in their top movie list. It exist a bit more about not liking a movie than the other way around imo. Has for the original point that was made, it was RT exaggerate a bit success/failure, but turning 5/10 movie into 20-30% score and 7.5/10 movie into 90% score, adding a lot of noise in movie result, I imagine there is truth in that maybe it all average out for studios over year with many title, but for small guy for who every movie can be a bit continue or die, it add a lot of risk.

Can you explain why ? It made it so much simpler for them to not have to deal with Hitler and known figure imo.

Thanks exactly what I was looking for, will add it to the list (if every jurisdiction do this, we will know every movie budget pretty clearly)

Did it really not help Baywatch ? It will make over 110 m with terrible reviews, Vin Diesel xXx: Return of Xander Cage just made 345 million and there Fast and Furious numbers are ridiculous, Kevin Hart has one of the most impressive box office run (been a while an over 2000 theater movie starring him didn<t open like crazy): http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=kevinhart.htm And he has a big social media presence. It is true that the link is not that clear (Emma Watson for example, seem like her giant following didn't help her movies that much) and it is certainly a case of the movie you are promoting online must match the reason why you gained those followers and their tastes say Diesel could not sell is follower a movie like Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk and Watson could more reach Harry Potter fans with other blockbuster of that genre than anything else. The sample size will be so low and it would be really hard (I imagine impossible) to isolate the social media presence, but for some case I would imagine it can help (for a Louis CK directed movie that has a low marketing budget for example or Kevin Hart releasing very Kevin Harty product) and China box office is so much by ticket sold online that in that market it could be really important.

I<m not sure if all of those fit the mid-budget bill, Hancock was a 166 million net budget movie, an around 200 million gross budget. All the night at the museum were over 100 million production I think. Well in today world they can feel like mid budget in comparison with those 300m+ movies. If we define mid budget by between 35m to 85 million, and using the-numbers as a source of budget, in the last 3 year's those are the movie that made over 100 million at the WW box office (only 60 of them), without animation and Fifty shade of grey it would look even worst (and like you said about the domestic market, many of those were world success not domestic): Release Date Movie Production Budget Domestic Gross Worldwide Gross Ratio 7/10/2015 Minions $74,000,000 $336,045,770 $1,167,245,366 15.77 7/8/2016 The Secret Life of Pets $75,000,000 $368,384,330 $875,958,307 11.68 2/12/2016 Deadpool $58,000,000 $363,070,709 $783,770,709 13.51 12/21/2016 Sing $75,000,000 $270,329,045 $628,791,988 8.38 2/13/2015 Fifty Shades of Grey $40,000,000 $166,167,230 $570,998,101 14.27 2/19/2016 Mei Ren Yu $60,720,000 $3,229,457 $552,198,479 9.09 9/25/2015 Hotel Transylvania 2 $80,000,000 $169,700,110 $470,751,398 5.88 1/22/2016 Zhuo yao ji $56,000,000 $32,766 $386,096,060 6.89 2/10/2017 Fifty Shades Darker $55,000,000 $114,434,010 $376,860,515 6.85 5/20/2016 The Angry Birds Movie $73,000,000 $107,509,366 $349,336,197 4.79 1/20/2017 xXx: Return of Xander Cage $85,000,000 $44,898,413 $345,114,933 4.06 1/9/2015 Taken 3 $48,000,000 $89,256,424 $327,656,424 6.83 2/6/2015 The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $74,000,000 $162,994,032 $311,594,032 4.21 6/10/2016 The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Poltergeist $40,000,000 $102,470,008 $311,270,008 7.78 2/10/2017 The Lego Batman Movie $80,000,000 $175,750,384 $310,940,997 3.89 9/18/2015 Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials $61,000,000 $81,697,192 $310,697,192 5.09 1/27/2017 Resident Evil: The Final Chapter $40,000,000 $26,844,692 $307,353,906 7.68 1/16/2015 Paddington $55,000,000 $76,223,578 $259,541,430 4.72 12/25/2015 Daddy’s Home $50,000,000 $150,357,137 $238,757,137 4.78 9/9/2016 Sully $60,000,000 $125,070,033 $238,552,082 3.98 6/5/2015 Spy! $65,000,000 $110,825,712 $233,125,712 3.59 9/18/2015 Everest $65,000,000 $43,309,450 $221,662,676 3.41 10/28/2016 Inferno $75,000,000 $34,355,263 $219,572,877 2.93 6/17/2016 Central Intelligence $50,000,000 $127,440,871 $217,196,811 4.34 6/26/2015 Ted 2 $68,000,000 $81,284,830 $217,022,588 3.19 9/16/2016 Bridget Jones’s Baby $35,000,000 $24,139,805 $203,555,567 5.82 11/11/2016 Arrival $47,000,000 $100,546,139 $197,929,547 4.21 9/25/2015 The Intern $40,000,000 $75,764,672 $197,232,734 4.93 2/5/2016 Xi You Ji zhi Sun Wu Kong San Da Bai Gu Jing $60,000,000 $709,982 $194,058,503 3.23 3/4/2016 London Has Fallen $60,000,000 $62,524,260 $193,857,962 3.23 4/7/2017 Smurfs: The Lost Village $60,000,000 $44,336,614 $192,951,866 3.22 4/28/2017 Baahubali 2: The Conclusion $30,000,000 $18,985,794 $184,075,552 6.14 9/23/2016 Storks $70,000,000 $72,679,278 $174,102,281 2.49 11/25/2015 Creed $37,000,000 $109,767,581 $173,567,581 4.69 10/7/2016 The Girl on the Train $45,000,000 $75,395,035 $170,327,930 3.79 2/10/2017 John Wick: Chapter Two $40,000,000 $92,029,184 $166,926,061 4.17 10/16/2015 Bridge of Spies $40,000,000 $72,313,754 $162,610,473 4.07 10/21/2016 Jack Reacher: Never Go Back $60,000,000 $58,697,076 $160,038,407 2.67 11/4/2016 Hacksaw Ridge $40,000,000 $67,209,615 $158,701,644 3.97 10/16/2015 Goosebumps $58,000,000 $80,069,458 $158,162,788 2.73 1/22/2016 Yip Man 3 $36,000,000 $2,679,437 $156,835,197 4.36 2/27/2015 Focus $65,000,000 $53,862,963 $154,362,963 2.37 10/14/2016 The Accountant $40,000,000 $86,260,045 $153,060,045 3.83 12/25/2015 The Hateful Eight $62,000,000 $54,117,416 $145,443,360 2.35 7/17/2015 Trainwreck $35,000,000 $110,038,130 $140,949,327 4.03 10/23/2015 The Last Witch Hunter $80,000,000 $27,367,660 $131,234,406 1.64 8/12/2016 Pete’s Dragon $65,000,000 $76,233,151 $128,375,539 1.98 1/15/2016 Ride Along 2 $40,000,000 $90,862,685 $124,827,316 3.12 9/4/2015 Tian jiang xiong shi $65,000,000 $74,070 $122,519,874 1.88 12/23/2016 Why Him? $38,000,000 $60,323,786 $117,523,786 3.09 1/22/2016 The 5th Wave $38,000,000 $34,912,982 $110,678,636 2.91 5/20/2016 Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising $35,000,000 $55,340,730 $108,758,521 3.11 4/17/2015 Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2 $38,000,000 $71,038,190 $107,597,242 2.83 3/27/2015 Get Hard $40,000,000 $90,411,453 $106,511,453 2.66 12/18/2015 Sisters $30,000,000 $87,044,645 $106,030,660 3.53 8/14/2015 The Man From U.N.C.L.E. $75,000,000 $45,445,109 $105,445,109 1.41 3/6/2015 Chappie $49,000,000 $31,569,268 $105,002,056 2.14 12/25/2015 Joy $60,000,000 $56,451,232 $101,134,059 1.69 7/29/2015 Vacation $31,000,000 $58,884,188 $100,655,892 3.25 5/25/2017 Baywatch $60,000,000 $53,547,500 $100,637,396 1.68

Not bad at all relative to BvS. Should we expect T5 to open significantly lower than F8, or previous entry (Transformer 4 and FF7) show a different pre-sales partner for both franchise ?

The Lords of the rings are not in that top ? I guess they could count as New Lines, but otherwise it would look like this (will not change the number of SH in the top 10 thought, still 5, but WW could be number 5 instead of 4): 1 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 7/18/08 2 The Dark Knight Rises WB $448,139,099 4,404 $160,887,295 4,404 7/20/12 3 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 WB $381,011,219 4,375 $169,189,427 4,375 7/15/11 4 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $377,027,325 3,703 $72,629,713 3,703 12/17/03 5 American Sniper WB $350,126,372 3,885 $633,456 4 12/25/14 6 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers NL $339,789,881 3,622 $62,007,528 3,622 12/18/02 7 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice WB $330,360,194 4,256 $166,007,347 4,242 3/25/16 8 Suicide Squad WB $325,100,054 4,255 $133,682,248 4,255 8/5/16 9 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $317,575,550 3,672 $90,294,621 3,672 11/16/01 10 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring NL $313,364,114 3,381 $47,211,490 3,359 12/19/01

Im not 100% sure, but I think part 1-2 were shot together and that would be the cost for both.

Cop car is a recent movie that had really believable child character imo.

Domestic the movie was released on VOD day and date with theatrical, didn't got a real theatrical marketing budget and it never went really wide (that why I said kind of direct to video on the domestic market and still a nice world success)

Chris Evans achieved is first non domestic non-flop post captain america with Gifted this year (outside the mcu), look like it was a nice success and well liked movie that did really well finnancially (Snowpiercer is not really fair, was kind of a direct to video title domestic, still a nice world success). 4/7/2017 Gifted FoxS $24,350,947 2,215 $446,380 56 14 9/4/2015 Before We Go RTWC $37,151 21 $18,630 21 23 6/27/2014 Snowpiercer RTWC $4,563,650 356 $171,187 8 18 5/3/2013 The Iceman (2013) MNE $1,969,193 258 $87,946 4 20 9/30/2011 What's Your Number? Fox $14,011,084 3,011 $5,421,669 3,002 16 9/23/2011 Puncture MNE $68,945 5 $29,175 4 22 post first Thor, Hemsworth has not a good track record either, Rush being the only big success I think outside franchise (and some of them like Winter war, Ghostbuster didn't do all that good. Would not surprise me if Cabin in the woods had a nice life and ended up being a success too though. Renner had nice movies too post-Avengers in supporting/co-lead, Arrival, Mission Impossibles, American Hustle, Hansel and Gretel, a really nice tv episode on Louis he has a much more open schedule that the other people named. Also The House is not even released yet, bit soon to tag it as a flop. There is quite a big amount of luck/badluck involved and if you do not make many movie because of those filled schedule, it is easy to go year's without any outside the franchise success, specially if you do not work unstop all the time.

I think I saw some trailer during the NBA finals game, it is playing on ESPN too apparently: https://www.ispot.tv/ad/wwot/the-house-movie-trailer National Airings 1,146 The next 2 week will maybe ramp up twice that number, but 1146 national airing is not bad for a movie to be released in 2 weeks. It,s 94% score is good too, Rought night trailer had a terrible below 70% score.

I was thinking about doing it (with some other jurisdiction that give the spending/tax credit in their state like New York, California, and those the press got in the UK), Louisiana is the best and let you export the data into an excel file so it would not be too much work, I will probably do it (with a list of link for the other jurisdiction). I started here: http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/24214-sources-for-movie-budget/

So I'll start will all those available from the Louisiana source: In Louisiana you can see a breakdown over time of movie that were planned but never made, the total expense, the expense in Louisiana (that give an idea below/over the line cost), expense in Los Angeles too. Those budget number are the exact same used in Sony leaked accounting, so maybe they are not 100% legit, but they are audited by the state and are those that are used in studio sheet and what people use to calculate their participation bonus. Here all the movie that had a budget of 5 million or more that used the tax credit, approximative gross cost (note Invertigo ended up never being made, same for Gambit but you can see how much the studio planned to spend on them and Twilight is for 2 movie being shot at the same time). Older movie didn't used the real total cost, just the local state cost, so stuff like Green lantern were not just 118 million nor Jonah Hex 44.3, you can search for the movie title in the link above for more details. (once again cannot format correctly) The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn 247300432 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 235329191 Untitled Hasbro Battleship Project 214995758 Invertigo 194911224 The Untitled Tom Cruise Project 160000000 Terminator: Genesis 158477632 DEEPWATER HORIZON 156000000 G.I. Joe II: Cobra Strikes 155173377 GAMBIT 154975309 THE FANTASTIC FOUR 154778784 UNTITLED WOLVERINE SEQUEL aka JUAREZ 126503334 Green Lantern 118134138 The Magnificent Seven 107632628 Ender's Game 102038483 Expendables 3 100000000 Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter 99536385 Jack Reacher 2 96283432 Django Unchained 86500000 22 Jump Street 84510288 Battle: Los Angeles 82918061 Geostorm 81927423 Now You See Me 80253681 Olympus Has Fallen 80044580 Two Guns 77056131 The Expendables 69397457 Daddy's Home 68623781 RED 67099961 Red 66935094 Mena 66569420 UNDERWATER 65087631 THE FREE STATE OF JONES 65000000 Hunter-Killer 64804294 The Tomb 64521790 Captain Phillips 63165132 TBP 59999985 Dogfight (The Campaign) 59395830 Broken City 56770611 21 Jump Street 54749086 Beautiful Creatures 53000006 Glastonbury: Isle of Light 50000000 Headshot 49995022 The Big Short 49558643 The Extincts 48553999 The Crow 48458019 Drive Angry 48299159 Jonah Hex 44300000 Get Hard 44070852 The Host 44000000 Parker 43711091 The Changeling 43073681 Secretariat 43000000 The Legend of Hercules 42929047 Busted 42865199 The End of the World 41887583 Medallion 41588261 Timmy Failure 41500000 Maze Runner 41100000 Grudge Match 39718623 Grudge Match 39718623 HOMEFRONT 39498719 Looper 38683513 Trespass 38674575 Focus 37897642 Focus 37897642 The Mechanic 36736346 The Hail Mary 36700000 Raven 36476642 Colombiana 34256300 Best of Me 34245087 The Big Valley 34000000 Playing the Field 33968895 Selfless 33645821 Selfless 33645821 ADAM JONES (fka UNTITLED CHEF PROJECT) 32720685 Untitled John Wells Project 32720685 The Hungry Rabbit Jumps 31000000 Contraband 30825341 Pitch Perfect 2 30628660 Shark Night 3D 28623000 Shark Night 3D 28623000 My All American 28000000 American Ultra 28000000 Mortal Kombat 27873883 Girl Trip 27676331 Thunder Run 27000000 Heat 27000000 Straw Dogs 27000000 When the Game Stands Tall 26729822 Knockout 26596669 STARBRIGHT 26164116 Oldboy 25815745 Oldboy 25815745 Motel 25268122 Motel 25268122 Bitter Pill 24200000 The Lucky One 24000000 Cogan's Trade 23736656 Bad Moms 22247484 The Butler 22103023 Leatherface 3D 21949575 Broad Daylight 21541535 Pitch Perfect 21430272 Earthbound 20649528 The Lost 20197971 Men of Respect 20000000 12 Years a Slave 20000000 True to the Game 19998183 Publish This Book 19997755 CHRIST THE LORD - 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The idea was made to collect all in the same place the different source for movie budget that it is possible to use. By far the best one is when the movie used Louisiana tax credit and use that reference made public for taxpayer: https://fastlane.louisianaeconomicdevelopment.com/Film/FilmSearch.aspx Others: If it was shot in California since 2013, it could end up here: http://film.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/CFC-Approved-Projects-List.pdf Not close to be has good, it is only list the expenditures that qualified for a tax credit, but it can give an idea. If it was shot in the state of new-york you could find them here: https://esd.ny.gov/esd-media-center/reports?tid[]=516&keys=tax credit In New-Zealand: http://www.nzfilm.co.nz/funding/past-funding-decisions France: http://www.profession-spectacle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/La-production-cinématographique-en-2016.pdf For example if you want to look the first John Wick, it spent 29.676 million in the state of NY alone and the TV series blue blood spent 91 million for the season 4 there: https://cdn.esd.ny.gov/Reports/2015_2016/Q1_2016_FTC_Report.pdf Do you know other good sources ? Like does Australia/Georgia/UK/Canada ever make them available to us ?

Not sure we known those movie budget thought (considering how many real location they tend to shoot and the high salary of sequels they would be at a good price). For example that Jack Reacher 2 60 million budget is a bit suspicious: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jackreacher2.htm It had a 96 million gross budget and should get below 22 million in tax credit: https://fastlane.louisianaeconomicdevelopment.com/Film/FilmSearchDetails.aspx?ProjNum=GqkbSZEd3QDTAlWLjuQ2Rw%3d%3d Same for Oblivion 120 million budget, it had a 160 million gross budget and got 22.93 in total granted tax credit: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=oblivion.htm https://fastlane.louisianaeconomicdevelopment.com/Film/FilmSearchDetails.aspx?ProjNum=dds9lTP6WsNtuzsgF6cvDw%3d%3d Except if there is some source behind the number, what the studio tell the trade to say during the movie opening does not mean that much, but that is pretty common to every movie made in house and were not on a selling block with many player bidding on them, they can keep the cost secret and usually do (except when the movie is made in a jurisdiction that make it public when they ask for tax credit and other incentives). With the pound exchange rate being really advantageous, nice tax credit location, it is not an impossible number 125 million, but them saying that it was 125 does not mean much (and the strange blame game that followed the really big number global opening for a 125m make more sense if the movie was in fact significantly more expensive.

I guess, but we tend to project ourself a bit and experience a bit the challenge they proposed to them, to place ourself in the audience mind of the time (or the they are still sleeping in New-York scene make no sense). Same for the sentence We'll Always Have Paris, it is so powerful because it was said by someone during Vichy france when Paris was under German military zone and it was not sure at all that it would be the case and we imagine ourself what the experience of seeing that in theater in 1942/1943 could have been, same for when real WW2 refugees hired as extra sing La Marseillaise over the Germans and started to naturally cry during the shooting of the scene. Still you are right, I'm not sure challenging is the right word (at least not for you and me, but for someone that is isolationist now, that the West should just stay out of the middle east type of position it could be).

I don't know about that, it would force us a define good at least and will be hard to come with an other definition than entertaining (using the word has meaning: something diverting or engaging), if a movie is engaging enough pass a certain point, diverting enough, it become almost in a trivial way a good one imo. If mindless cookie cutter spectacle entertain you, it is because you like them and are what you find to be good movies in a way, I will say that Transformer 4 was a bad movie because I could not finish it, if I would have a good time (for that amount of time) it would make it pass automatically to the good movie zone).

Casablanca is not that good of an example, the play was made before the Americans were involved into fighting Germany, it was one of the most politically charged movie of the time that some argue influenced the level of war effort and was a piece of war propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_(film)#Timing_of_release The Office of War Information prevented screening of the film to troops in North Africa, believing it would cause resentment among Vichy supporters in the region. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/award-winning-film-reinforces-allied-war-effort-nov-26-1942-216182 http://brightlightsfilm.com/casablanca-romance-propaganda/ Although World War II began on September 1, 1939, as late as the beginning of December 1941, the time at which Casablanca is set, most Americans believed that the United States “should stay out of that phony war in Europe.” In fact, a Gallup Poll taken during the first year of the war indicated that an overwhelming ninety-six percent of all Americans wanted the country to remain neutral.1 However, by the time Casablanca premiered in November 1942, the bombing of Pearl Harbor had already occurred, and the United States had been at war for almost a year. Nevertheless, many Americans continued to support an isolationist foreign policy, and were uneasy about U.S. participation in a war that was thousands of miles away. To counteract this negative public sentiment towards American military participation in WWII, the Department of War established a “War Films” division, and hired filmmakers John Ford, Frank Capra, and Casablanca‘s screenwriters, Julius and Philip Epstein, to travel to Washington, D.C. to create a series of seven American war propaganda films, grouped under the umbrella title of Why We Fight. Warner Brothers also produced some six hundred training and propaganda films under the supervision of Owen Crump, a member of the studio’s shorts department.2 For a modern audience, now that the war is long gone and isolationist during WW2 is not that popular, it can be watched as a crowd pleaser, but at a time it was a tool to challenge audience into changing their mind about the role the US should play in WW2 against Nazy germany.

In live action there is some exception, domestic ranking since November 8 (comedy over 1 million), according to the numbers: The Boss Baby $172,169,543 Why Him? $60,323,786 Office Christmas Party $54,767,494 Baywatch $53,547,500 Captain Underpants: The First Ep… $50,613,660 Snatched $45,276,729 Going in Style $44,658,044 Fist Fight $32,187,017 How to Be a Latin Lover $31,981,297 Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul $19,756,995 Bad Santa 2 $17,782,176 Table 19 $3,614,896 The Resurrection of Gavin Stone $2,303,792 Paterson $2,141,423 The Comedian $1,658,706 Toni Erdmann $1,478,960 3 Idiotas $1,161,485 Why him, Office Christmas party and Going in Style did well (more than comfortably doubled their big budget, while being domestic heavy)