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Like said by someone else, is 300M for a direct production budget + world P&A a particular high number. A movie like Will Smith Hancock for example had a 334.475 million budget + world P&A, in 2008, broke down of it's cost: DIRECT PRODUCTION COSTS (166,054) World release cost: 168.421 DTH MARKETING (61,747) DTH PRINTS (COS) (11,109) DTH WPF, DUES, OTHER (COS) (5,490) ITH MARKETING (63,850) ITH PRINTS (COS) (21,099) ITH WPF, FREIGHT, OTHER (COS) (5,126) Others example of releasing + production cost Spider-Man 3: 542.981m Amazing Spider Man: 460.673m Amazing Spider Man 2: 455.74m Davinci Code: 398.64m 2012: 397.23m Men in black 3: 391m Angels & Demon: 381m Total Recall (2012): 270m Green hornet: 264m White house down: 263m 300m would not be cheap, but not much more than what a studio spent on a Total recall reboot movie and still hundreds of million cheaper than big superheroes franchise titles, while trying to launch a movie universe with a lot potentially on the line.

Cannot find it you mean they will in the Q1 of 2017 ? Or I<m I could find it in 2016 pdf, do you know the page number ? Searching for DC everywhere in the annual report cannot find anything else (outside the generics fans spent 4.5 billion on dc product that do not tell us how much of that spending went to the studio vs the company that make the pyjamas, ship them, sales them, etc..)

They always had consumer product line in their annual report, Im not sure consumer product sales make more money than movies (return is often small on those global sales) https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1105705/000119312517053483/d300508d10k.htm Last year movie consumer product revenues: 321 million Tv consumer product: 469 million Or you could be talking about something else and change that I missed between the last warner annual report, do you know the page/section name of what you are talking about in it ?

This the correlation between trailer views and OW has been great. has for Cinemascores: Between 2004 and 2014 the correlation seem to be considerable: In 2016 (using 133 wide release I had the cinemascore) average gross / average box office multi A+: 61.7 million / 4.165 A : 175 million / 3.468 A- : 72 million / 2.943 B+: 65,5 million / 3.01 B- : 63 million / 2.846 all the Cs: 20.5 million / 2.254 the Ds: 11.6 million / 1.95 Seem to still be really clear that As movie does more at the box office with better multiplicator and that it tend to goes down. Pretty similar to the 2004-2014

You can see all recents movie with a certain RT range: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/browse/in-theaters?minTomato=45&maxTomato=65&minPopcorn=0&maxPopcorn=100&genres=1;2;4;5;6;8;9;10;11;13;18;14&sortBy=release https://www.rottentomatoes.com/browse/dvd-streaming-all?minTomato=45&maxTomato=65&services=amazon;hbo_go;itunes;netflix_iw;vudu;amazon_prime;fandango_now&genres=1;2;4;5;6;8;9;10;11;13;18;14&sortBy=release

HF box office curve seem really smooth: http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Hidden-Figures#tab=box-office

If it is Kate Mara, first time I heard of that one, wonder were it could be from, looking at her filmography I really don't get it.

It gave that impression, that a super long 5 minute trailer would be the complete movie pretty much.

The difference on the trailers quality was massive thought, also the high concept/franchise power.

It was still going on with Danny Boyle version: It was great seeing you both yesterday. I've gotten Scott and Danny to the point where they're now a little interested in Tom Cruise. Though both remain concerned about his age (me less so) everyone agrees that he's an actor who can really handle language (Lions for Lambs, Magnolia, A Few Good Men) and a movie star who feels comfortable owning the stage. He's in London filming right now and Scott wants to get him a script to read and a meeting with Danny before Danny comes here to LA next week. I've been warned that he likes to bring in Chris McQuarrie to re-write but Maha Dakhil (who wants him in the movie) has assured me that won't happen. Aaron He was even ready to not re-write the movie and just do it for a movie like that. Sony studio runners did seem to love having him being there a lot. Hard to imagine anyone doing a better job than Fassbender too (nice use of the word job here), it didn't require necessarily a theater trained and experimented actor like him, but with that crazy and dense amount of dialogue script (and Sorkins speech) you certainly needed those ability. Depending on how true the bolded part is, that could explain a lot (and obviously establish writer/director would never accept deal like that and never consider Cruise for their movies if they don't have already a working relationship with him)

With how rich and powerful Lucas/Spielberg were when they made the first one, I always imagined that a bit like for ET/Back to the Future/Ghostbuster and other example, studios cannot just make those movies sequels without their signed permission.

Is it the movie that famously had not got the final rendering made for many SFX because of a big grid power failure close to the release date ?

Wrong thread ?

Would still be significantly above the 178 million net budget, over 90% on RT, nicer high concept Edge of Tomorrow opening.

Holly molly that 2.15 million more than what MOS did.

They were not a budget range that made it impossible to become large world blockbuster: Imitation game: 14 million / 233.6 million at the box office Ex machina: 15 million / 36.9 million Her: 23 million / 48.8 million Hidden Figure: 25 million / 229.7 million The cerebral and art-house look like you point out is probably what made it very hard to just double their budget, would a cerebral / art-house type big budget wide release Blade Runner would show that it was an untouched market... maybe, but we had many really good one that had good coverage and best pictures noms recently and they didn't blowout at all. Has for DV, certainly and I think that it is the case, it would not surprise me that he has conditional final cut (or the production side) and not the 2 studios that will distribute that are a bit passive distributor into this, from what I understand that movie is financed in large part by a small independent company that had a made a large fortune when they did the movie Blind Side (that movie made around 200 million in profit for them apparently)

the 3 last collumn were not using the good table in their formula (all the previous column should be ok, but do not use the last 3 people).

Thanks (it was not too hard to extract those value into an csv file than excel document with a little C++ program), but it took a while to understand some of the terms they used (and they often use abbreviation).

I did put some of them here (with people kind enough to rework the table): http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/24070-the-never-ending-debate-around-the-break-even-point-study-using-sony-leaked-accounting-data/

I imagine that we are, and why I started by what you mean by forgotten, ( because saying that the movie will be forgotten and that the movie will be talked about in the future for sure seem counter-intuitive). Of the 150 wide release or so of 2017, would not surprise me if WonderWoman end up in the 10% most remembered in the next 5-10 year's, simply because the movie will come up all the time in conversation and is character appearing in sequels and franchise entry, combined to the fact it started has a massive success. That could be true in a way (I was not there back then, but before home media were people not going more quickly to the next big thing movie wise, not being able to rewatch them or maybe that was what kept them alive longer, people needing to wait for it to get on TV one day or rerun), but nerd-franchise Internet became massive and CBM/Star wars movie are their best product, people talk about those movies a lot. (You can still catch people talking about Zod getting killed in MoS)

For a good part of the world audience, the only contact they ever had with Wonder Woman is that movie, they never read one of her comic in their life, didn't saw the show, WW movie is Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot is WW. The distinction will not be that clear about the 2, if WW stay relevant that movie will stay relevant in some sort. None of the star wars/indiana jones movie will be forgotten soon, has bad has some were, they will be sold in collectible pack for a long time, being an entry of a legendary director or being in a giant franchise make it hard for a giant movie to disappear, pretty much all the live action big budget Batman are still well remembered decade laters (for being bad or good). All the MCU entry post Hulk are well remembered, nearly a decade later for some, they all still play in theater before any new avengers type release. I doubt that around Captain Marvel release that we will see no talk of WW because people will not remember that movie by then, same for when Wonder Woman 2 will start is marketing.

It depend what you mean by that, but it is a bit impossible for WW, she will be in justice League it will be a massive movie that will remember everyone about WW, there will be Wonder Woman 2 movie news (release date, director/co-actor casted, etc...) for year,s and that movie release making everyone remember the first one. Franchise movie part of a big franchise are really hard to get forgotten, reminder and re-use of the characters are there to let them stay in the zeitgeist. And when Captain Marvel will get out or any female superhero movie will be announced, WW success will be mentioned in those news for a while.

I would not use a message board about box office as a reference for a movie being popular or not, it is a special subset (and skewing male/young/nerdy). Mama Mia is one of the biggest movie of all time and most remembered movie of all time (It was the most profitable in Universal studio history, at least before Jurassic World but could still be), not sure it would have made a message board like this top 50.

It is always hard to know, but Disney are specially good to monetize their movie over time and make them remembered. It would not be surprising to me, to find an out of the vault 4K (6K HDR?) special edition of the remake ending in the top 100 sellers on physical media in the year 2030.

? It is the best seller on Amazon right now: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Movies-TV-DVD/zgbs/movies-tv/2958934011 https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Movies-TV-Blu-ray/zgbs/movies-tv/2958935011 Would not surprised if it end up very high at the end of the year too.