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  1. 67 ? 17.98 Superman 7.67 Superman II 6.20 Batman 5.33 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4.86 The Rocketeer 4.49 Superman III 4.37 Sky High 4.31 The Crow 4.24 Batman Begins 4.24 Spider-Man 2 4.23 The Amazing Spider-Man 4.21 Darkman 4.18 The Mask of Zorro 4.10 Blade 3.96 Big Hero 6 3.93 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II 3.81 Superman Returns 3.71 The Incredibles 3.68 Buffy the Vampire Slayer 3.64 Hancock 3.56 Batman Returns 3.53 Guardians of the Galaxy 3.52 Spider-Man 3.49 Batman Forever 3.42 The Phantom 3.40 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III 3.38 The Dark Knight 3.31 The LEGO Batman Movie 3.26 Blade: Trinity 3.23 Iron Man 3.23 Megamind 3.15 Ant-Man 3.13 Unbreakable 3.06 The Spirit 3.01 Marvel's The Avengers 2.97 Mystery Men 2.95 The Green Hornet 2.93 Chronicle (2012) 2.92 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) 2.91 Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers 2.89 X-Men 2.85 The Legend of Zorro 2.82 Judge Dredd 2.81 Black Mask 2.79 The Dark Knight Rises 2.78 Spawn 2.76 Fantastic Four (2005) 2.76 Superman IV: The Quest for Peace 2.75 Thor 2.74 Deadpool 2.74 The Shadow 2.74 Doctor Strange 2.73 Captain America: The Winter Soldier 2.72 Superhero Movie 2.72 Captain America: The First Avenger 2.66 Zoom 2.66 X-Men: First Class 2.64 Wanted 2.62 My Super Ex-Girlfriend 2.58 X-Men: Days of Future Past 2.57 Hellboy 2.56 Logan 2.55 Ghost Rider 2.54 Daredevil 2.53 Blade II 2.51 X2: X-Men United 2.50 Batman and Robin
  2. Their is no doubt that there is 2-4 million people that really like them and I would guess many of those were buying them no matter what irrelevant if they liked the movie or not, it is more about the average people that ended up seeing them
  3. There was 2 superheroes movie, Hellboy and Hancock, playing in wide release when Dark Knight came out, 2008 was a really big year for Sh movies with 9 releases (6 big one), all playing in 2500 theater or more, not that dissimilar to 2016 8 releases (7 big one): 45 93 The Spirit LGF $19,806,188 2,509 $6,463,278 2,509 12/25/08 46 106 Punisher: War Zone LGF $8,050,977 2,508 $4,271,451 2,508 12/5/08 47 2 The Dark Knight WB $534,858,444 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 7/18/08 48 66 Hellboy II: The Golden Army Uni. $75,986,503 3,212 $34,539,115 3,204 7/11/08 49 25 Hancock Sony $227,946,274 3,965 $62,603,879 3,965 7/2/08 50 48 Wanted Uni. $134,508,551 3,185 $50,927,085 3,175 6/27/08 51 47 The Incredible Hulk Uni. $134,806,913 3,508 $55,414,050 3,505 6/13/08 52 15 Iron Man Par. $318,412,101 4,154 $98,618,668 4,105 5/2/08 53 90 Superhero Movie MGM/W $25,881,068 2,965 $9,510,297 2,960 3/28/08
  4. Interstellar made 675 million, Dunkirk will almost certainly come below that. No Tarantino movie made Interstellar money since Pulp Fiction I would think, he still receive only notes from Weinstein and achieved to make everything he wrote since. If Dunkirk do "only" 280million WW, Nolan will get is next reasonably budgeted movie greenlight right away and will still have unconditional final cut on it and will still keep is privilege of not doing real audience test.
  5. ? That was what was playing in wide release the weekend Dark Knight opened: 1 1 N The Dark Knight WB $158,411,483 - 4,366 - $36,283 $158,411,483 $185 1 2 3 2 Hancock Sony $14,040,178 -56.2% 3,776 -189 $3,718 $191,543,979 $150 3 3 6 4 WALL-E BV $10,070,396 -46.4% 3,310 -539 $3,042 $182,732,709 $180 4 4 5 1 Hellboy II: The Golden Army Uni. $10,117,815 -70.7% 3,212 +8 $3,150 $56,526,885 $85 2 5 11 7 Meet Dave Fox $1,659,424 -68.4% 3,011 - $551 $9,398,409 $60 2 6 2 N Mamma Mia! Uni. $27,751,240 - 2,976 - $9,325 $27,751,240 $52 1 7 4 3 Journey to the Center of the Earth WB (NL) $12,340,435 -41.3% 2,830 +19 $4,361 $43,504,712 $60 2 8 7 N Space Chimps Fox $7,181,374 - 2,511 - $2,860 $7,181,374 $37 1 9 8 5 Wanted Uni. $5,072,805 -57.7% 2,433 -724 $2,085 $123,322,635 $75 4 10 9 6 Get Smart WB $4,125,021 -42.7% 2,135 -951 $1,932 $119,608,695 $80 5 11 10 8 Kung Fu Panda P/DW $1,860,854 -57.8% 1,505 -1,199 $1,236 $206,616,381 $130 7 12 13 10 Kit Kittredge: An American Girl PicH $951,358 -58.7% 769 -1,080 $1,237 $13,769,304 $10 5 13 12 11 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $955,846 -57.7% 757 -907 $1,263 $312,569,461 $185 9 14 15 9 The Incredible Hulk Uni. $626,515 -73.0% 656 -1,289 $955 $131,767,165 $150 6 Other movies openning in is legs, Tropic thunder, Step brothers, X-Files, The Mummy, Pineappel express, Death Race, Star wars clone wars, etc... How is it different than BvS first weekend competition of movie in wide release, pretty similar era, there is less studio movie made now (less and less by year's), not more: 1 1 N Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice WB $166,007,347 - 4,242 - $39,134 $166,007,347 $250 1 2 5 2 The Divergent Series: Allegiant LG/S $9,435,173 -67.5% 3,740 - $2,523 $46,540,669 - 2 3 2 1 Zootopia BV $24,022,288 -35.4% 3,670 -289 $6,546 $241,431,697 - 4 4 3 N My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 Uni. $17,861,950 - 3,133 - $5,701 $17,861,950 - 1 5 4 3 Miracles from Heaven TriS $9,694,581 -34.6% 3,047 - $3,182 $34,304,594 $13 2 6 6 4 10 Cloverfield Lane Par. $5,940,154 -52.5% 2,802 -625 $2,120 $55,950,951 - 3 7 7 5 Deadpool Fox $4,897,941 -38.9% 2,336 -588 $2,097 $349,371,907 $58 7 8 8 6 London Has Fallen Focus $3,027,568 -55.8% 2,173 -838 $1,393 $55,716,425 $60 4 9 18 13 The Young Messiah Focus $274,236 -74.8% 874 -895 $314 $6,257,221 - 3 10 12 7 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Par. $900,104 -67.9% 847 -1,232 $1,063 $21,326,169 $35 4 11 14 8 The Perfect Match LGF $682,647 -65.4% 658 -267 $1,037 $8,724,275 - 3 12 10 11 Risen Sony $935,025 -18.3% 634 -571 $1,475 $36,029,172 $20 6
  6. That would make them significantly cheaper than Amazing spider-man 1-2 combined (over 600 million budget for those 2 combined, over 520million net) With that cast list + those producer (Imagine how much Feige must make by movie by now) I doubt it will be that cheap.
  7. Good luck for anyone to watch every movie released in the world of any giving year to be able to have the opinion that it is not a true statement. There is what 5000 movies for every superheroes one, it would be really exceptional for this statement to not be true, and no one could know if it is false.
  8. All fair enough and I just said not too long ago that she was clearly not in the top tier before this movie release, so maybe she could join it, but that would happen by this movie life (legs and home video run), not because it was setup by this 90m OW.
  9. The squad are being heroes during the timeline of the movie thought (except stealing one purse one time and the guy punching the woman in the face, they don't do anything bad during all the movie outside their flashback), they are saving the world, reconnecting with their daughters, seeking and getting redemption and so on. They are not really the villain of the movie (The Joker and the old witch are, not the squad), it is not like in The Wild Bunch or other movies were you actually follow some villains doing bad and unpleasant to watch stuff. You can give them any background, but the actual story and their action/moral decision they make during the movie, what the movie ask you to root for, etc... is what make it a very mainstream superheroes movie or not.
  10. For a character that iconic that reached some mass media zeitgeist the awareness for the character and the sequel movie will not be that different than from the first, the sequel of BvS will probably not make any significant jump and if it would have been Man of Steel 2 without Batman in it, it would have probably not make more than MoS. That movie is already playing a bit like a sequel, with huge Thursday preview and all. The legs and Home video sales will probably be an indicator of the sequel OW potential.
  11. Depend on definition of star, but she had a salary of 1.6 million on the movie Sahara: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-movie15apr15-story.html (too considering Steve Zhan was paid 2.2 million+264k in perk on the same movie and McConaughey 8 million, maybe it is more an argument that she was not a star at all or that women that were not at the very top were paid much less than male actor) Between 2006-2010 I think she was in many market, her awareness metric among movie going audience were really great (specially france, italy, mexico, russia, spain), those are elite number: Cruz, Penelope Australia 0.89244186 Cruz, Penelope Brazil 0.945219124 Cruz, Penelope France 0.971057884 Cruz, Penelope Germany 0.947052947 Cruz, Penelope Italy 0.984047856 Cruz, Penelope Japan 0.599400599 Cruz, Penelope Korea 0.665504924 Cruz, Penelope Mexico 0.967098704 Cruz, Penelope Russia 0.9760992 Cruz, Penelope Spain 0.978 Cruz, Penelope UK 0.934328358 Cruz, Penelope Int'l Average 0.896386496
  12. Many thought that would be a plus box office wise, not a minus (I still think that it is a plus and a reason that it seem to be opening above Dr Strange for example)
  13. I doubt that it is the case, specially for a movie like that, maybe if you are the MCU/Star wars you do not bring him on because of some toxicity, but outside blockbuster it is much better to have fans and hated than just bland, take Adam Sandler he is I think the biggest "poison" in the world (the actor that most people will be turned away be is mere presence in a movie) but he is still one of the biggest draw with some largest world fanbase, specially on the home video side, it is split 50/50 and strong on both side. That is much better for a regular title, that will be a giant success if it reach 3.5-4% of the population, I think on a movie like that Depp is a big plus (same on a movie like Pirates). Has for Ridley bringing interest, I don't know either, not a perfect comparison Rogue One being a smaller success and the character being less charismatic, but studio that waited after Inferno/Rogue One to release their Felicity Jones movies they had didn't see much if any boost, both her movies post star wars didn't made 4 million domestic, despite going 1500+ theaters.
  14. ? http://www.boxofficereport.com/trailerviews/owyoutuberatios.html In 2017 the 60 movie listed on that website, trailer view R correlation factor with first weekend box office is 0.82 I would expect that no other metric than real trailers views would be that high, a trailer view (particularly if it come from a google search) show a clear and high amount of interest by the person watching (and obviously full awareness).
  15. Captain america first avengers had a gross budget over 200 m, did 370 million at the BO and got a sequel. If those 150 million net budget rumors are to be true, WW is doing fantastic domestic wise (like the Rock saying opening 45% of your budget in one market is really good, imagine how good it is to open at 60% of your bigger budget in one market), leg could push that movie close to 250 m domestic. Movies that do their mid/big budget on the domestic market alone are in very good shape, movie that do more than their big budget on the domestic market alone then to be very profitable, if the movie play WW and do say 550m, that would be a giant success. I would understand someone to doubt that low 150 million budget figure and think that it was more thought, but that movie didn't had a particularly expensive cast/director versus some comparable, nor Feige to pay.
  16. That seem to be the author not wanting to hurt is product by a movie / wanting to have control on it, and then when the franchise is a bit of the past he finally accept to sell the rights: DreamWorks' interest in the film rights to the Captain Underpants series date back to when the first installment was published in 1997, but Dav Pilkey did not want to sell them. In October 2011, his representatives indicated Pilkey was ready, and DreamWorks Animation won the rights in an auction For the popular book adaptation studios are not in control, authors (or publisher/company owning the movie rights) are.
  17. All of this is true, maybe except the much bigger property part, all the metric I could find (not that they were good enough to make them credible) did point to Wonder Woman being clearly out of the top tier property (bat/super/spider/iron man), more on the second tier with Wolverine and Cap when played by their iconic actor. Specially worldwide. So an opening close to Logan (that had also good reviews and some appeal outside the usual SH crowd) would not be that surprising, even if I feel like you specially with this week buzz, if you feel underwhelming to not reach 100m.
  18. That depend so much on Avatar 2 setup that it is hard to know, it all depend on what those movies will be about. Like many pointing out, outside the pandora setting not much matter to people, those movie can be pretty much anything.
  19. I would have imagined that the gender composition of audiences goes less and less divided over time (that it would have been the same for very female heavy opening night/weekend), simply a phenomenon of less hardcore franchise fans and more general audience/people not knowing much about the movie installing itself. They only used male heavy opening.
  20. Maybe that is the equivalent: http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/4301-south-korea-box-office-2016-thread-title-changed-to-reflect-train-to-busan-no-longer-in-theatres/?do=findComment&comment=2718703 Docter strange OD:431,188 / 549,859($3.4M including previews) CA3 - 727,949(also culture day)/3,934,515/8,677,249 BVS - 219,794/1,386,658/2,256,913 Squad - 397,666/1,416,968 /1,898,220
  21. 200M OW is not that huge Comparable opening weekend: Guardian 2 did 330m Logan 332m X-Men apocalypse around 400m
  22. That must have been a really hard to track movie, musical/family movie that open a Thursday like a fanboy franchise event, their tracking must have been all over the place dependent of the model they plugged the metric in, that movie had basically no good precedent to use, they could not plug the pre-salse ticket into a Jungle Book model but not a Civil War either. Wonder Woman (classic SH, or more like Hunger games, it could play like a family movie), deadpool (superheroes or typical R-rated comedy) also are probably not easy to know which tracking model to use.
  23. It will lost 200+m at the BO, but if that rumored 230m net budget is true, that is a huge difference with the previous 410 million - tax rebate (I would imagine between 340-350 million net cost). Say it is a movie 100 million cheaper, it will still do less than the previous one, but not as much as the box office difference indicate. The fact that those movie cannot be made cheaper really (as long as they are giant on the water production with the best CGI on their era), could make them take a long thinking before greenligthing a sequel it is true, specially if the new character does not caught up among audience with their study and still have to rely on Depp.
  24. A predicted an around the first one WW outside China, a nice grow but all removed by exchange rate change, I thought it would have made more in China (say 120-130) and a bit less than the first domestic, for around 800m WW. 750 to 850m being the range of what I expected. Playing that well among older audience and doing so much domestic, for me it is overperforming (and that because the movie delivered and was really a good emotional punch) and almost (all ?) is competition under-performed, living it all the place until WW.
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