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    Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

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    4 hours ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

    But it makes the most sense as Disney doesn’t have IMAX for that date, if they can’t get IMAX they likely won’t put a film there, especially as we have yet to know how congested the Fall-Holiday 2020 schedule will be. 
     

    To add onto that a lot of films in 2021, may just be 2020 films, and a lot of MCU films scheduled for 2021 that aren’t far enough in production. 
     

    The likely scenario is:

    Black Widow - November 6th

    The Eternals - February 12th

    Shang Chi - May 7th

    Spider-Man 3 or Strange 2 - November.

     

    The other one and Thor 4 goes to 2022z

    Nah. 
     

    Black Widow - August 7th

    Eternals - November 6th

    Shang-Chi - February 12th

    Strange 2 - May 7th

    Spider-Man 3 - July 16th

    Thor: Love and Thunder - November 5th

    Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

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    2 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

    They are gonna have to push their entire 2021 schedule either way because Dr Strange isn't making that May release date. There's a pretty good chance that they won't be able to start production when they initially wanted to (production probably already got delayed by a month or so because of Derrickson leaving and the virus will delay it again by a few months). If the coronavirus doesn't calm down by the end of July, Spider-man 3 might have to get delayed too.

    They could always move production to Atlanta once Loki is over. Plus, apparently they still have plans to shoot in the UK with the UK being the only location allowed to fly to and back from America.

    Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

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    12 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

    No, they should move Black Widow to Nov and The Eternals to May. I think thats a much better way to work around this without delaying Black Widow too far away (they already burned through two trailers and a ton of spots for sporting events and stuff).

    Nah. August for Black Widow since it’ll help lead in to The Falcon and The Winter Soldier on Disney Plus.

    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

    in Numbers and Data

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    1 minute ago, dudalb said:

    And with AQP2 you have to ask if  movie with an apocalyptic setting is what people are in the mood to go see now. I suspect that point is being discussed at Paramount right now.

    It’s too late for that. I would hope the movie isn’t ostracized for an apocalyptic setting but more of a message that we have to fight to save people and protect those in our family who need help and need saving.

    Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

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    1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    Better trailer but ehh. No one asked for it. Booo.

     

    If not for my MCU streak, I wouldn't have even watched it on digital release but now gotta have to watch it anyways and that is why it's gonna open well legs gonna be shit.

    Uh what? No one asked for it? Dude, people have been wanting a Black Widow Movie more than a Han Solo movie and they wanted it for 10 years, more than Captain Marvel, which people say Black Widow looks better than. So, watch what you say before you say what is wrong.

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    Sonic the Hedgehog | Paramount | Feb 14 2020 | Visionary Auteur Tim Miller to produce | See Sonic's new plastic surgery on page 58

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    On 2/25/2020 at 11:21 PM, OdinSon2k14 said:

    Doing great in the US, but those OS numbers are coming in weak...no China is gonna hurt too. It's looking to likely finish in the 300-350 range, putting it well behind Rampage. Was hoping it could topple Rampage, but it's not showing much OS draw. 

    It’s still a hit though with just a $95M budget and a sequel is likely.

    Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

    in Box Office Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Movies4Life

    So, @Shawn, how much are we both expecting Black Widow to do domestically (opening weekend and overall) and around the world? I mean I know some people think a billion is now up in the air without China, but, I think Black Widow can make a billion with or without China, because the MCU is far popular in other places around the world like Brazil, the UK South Korea and India. I’m thinking it’ll open to $180M domestic and end with $450M domestic and $550M WW (without China) for a final cume of exactly a billion dollars. Why? Well, I have my reasons below:


     

    Here are my reasons for why I believe Black Widow will make a billion and not Wonder Woman 1984:

    1. More views for Black Widow’s first trailer on YouTube than Wonder Woman 1984’s first trailer (40 million compared to WW84’s 26M viewers trailer) and the only trailer for a 2020 movie to go over 40 million views, the threshold usually needed to be crossed in order for a billion dollar film to be likely. Plus, has more likes on YouTube with 1.5 million compared to WW84’s 583 thousand likes.

    2. BW has had more marketing in it’s first three months (a first trailer in December, a special look and featurette during the ESPN NFC game in January, and a Big Game Super Bowl spot this current February) than WW84 (a first trailer in December and a Super Bowl spot that turned into a Tide ad). Plus, the Black Widow trailer has 207 thousand retweets compared to WW84’s 107 thousand retweets on Twitter. So, clearly that shows which of the two female led Marvel movies has more hype.

    3. BW is being eventized and promoted as the start of the next post-Avengers phase of the MCU (like Iron Man 3 and Captain America: Civil War were which both made a billion worldwide) and the next era of the MCU post-Endgame.

    4. It’ll attract Netflix fans with David Harbour, which got fans talking with Red Guardian and the Stranger Things Season 4 trailer with Hopper in Russia, and Disney+ fans with a special look at the movie on their service with some upcoming Disney+ release of theirs.

    5. It’ll get an entirely global start (not counting China, if the CoronaVirus Crisis doesn’t get solved in time) over the first weekend of May, meaning they are trying hard to keep spoilers in bound until everyone around the world sees it, which will likely play into it opening huge, meaning it could play like Iron Man 3 or Black Panther making a billion without China before they opened in China.

    6. The first Wonder Woman didn’t hit a billion with China and got banned in Lebanon because of Gal being Israeli, something that is likely to be repeated with Wonder Woman 1984.

    7. Less competion for Black Widow (Scoob, The Woman in The Window) until Memorial Day Weekend with F9: The Fast Saga compared to the competion WW84 has to face a week later (Candyman, Disney and Pixar’s Soul, In The Heights and Top Gun: Maverick). And, with BW being a female-led film that could help it have a smaller drop over Mother’s Day Weekend, compared to Iron Man 3 and Cap 3.

    8. It’s gonna get two more straight months of marketing with a final trailer, final poster, ticket presales following the trailer and a likely early premiere at CinemaCon at the end of March, before it’s world premiere sometime in April. So, you bet Disney’s gonna market the crap out of it to build more hype for people to see it, especially they really emphasize in the final trailer that this is the final story for Black Widow and Scarlett Johansson in the MCU period. Compare that to how WB hasn’t marketed WW84 enough, which is a problem that has caused all of their movies, not named Joker, to either flop, bomb, underperform or break even, including Birds of Prey, which is probably because of AT&T’s downsizing of the marketing department and/or the executive shuffling by way of replacing Kevin Tsujihara with Ann Sarnoff.

    9. Scarlett Johansson apparently being a big overseas name that sells at the box office.

    10. Marvel is the only dominant franchise on the planet still going that has committed fans, even a Reddit user group that consists of over a million followers.

    That is all.

     

     

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    China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

    in China At The Box Office

    Posted · Edited by Movies4Life

    12 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

    I haven't seen that anywhere. I've seen more talk about it being a standalone story. Marvel hasn't even capitalised on the fact that it could be the last time we ever see Black Widow. Spider-Man FFH and Captain Marvel were sold as events and both missed billion without China.

    We’ll see if that changes this year and I think in the final trailer they will make sure it is capatalized as Black Widow’s first, final and only story in the MCU so it does get a billion worldwide.

    China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

    in China At The Box Office

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    37 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    MCU has bigger chunk of numbers from China than DC.

     

    For a billion, BW need $150-200mn in China while $100mn will do for Wonder Woman.

    I don’t believe that in the case of Black Widow and I still believe, since it’s being eventized as the start of Phase 4 of the MCU and the next era of the MCU and is getting more marketing than WW84, that is why I think a billion for BW will happen without China.

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