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15 minutes ago, Killimano3 said:
I'm not very knowledgeable on this subject but assuming the numbers people have stated are true why is it that most big blockbusters seem to have Caucasian percentages in the 30-40% range for most big films? I would assume that it should roughly be similar to the population. Some movies would skew based on what age range they are targeted at, but Caucasian population is still at least 50% for even young adults I think. Plus if anything I always assumed older people were more likely to go the movies as young people were more into streaming and other media.
I think this graph might explain it better. Caucasian share of overall US population in recent census was around 58% but If you look at more urban areas, it's even lower. For top50 cities, Caucasian % is just 36%, Hispanics is much higher at 30% and Black % is 19%. Whereas rural areas have much higher Caucasian % - almost close to 80%. Movie going audience skew more urban than rural, especially lot more these days and urban areas are lot less caucasian than overall country in general.
Also, movie going possibly decreased a lot among a section of conservative whites over the last decade due to their hatred of Hollywood. I doubt this section of people are gonna return back to theatres consistently even in future
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10 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:
So with Titanic only being a 2 week release, will those 3D screens/showtimes go back to Avatar 2 or will they go to Ant Man?
Was wondering the same...since there is no major release next week, wonder if A2 might gain some PLF shows. Atleast I hope it doesn't lose any PLF shows next week
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Just now, Grebacio said:
He got banned
I wish they can unban him...I was bit inactive during the period when he got banned but he definitely made the forum more interesting.
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Damn crazy hold for A2...7M weekend should be possible with a 1.36M Friday. 4 day weekend could be 8.5M+
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Yeah Deadline's initial numbers yesterday were bit too optimistic
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among all the major OS markets, relatively UK seems to be best market opening wise
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Just now, Verrows said:
I love pretty much anything period piece so when period pieces are done with care and the details and quality are top notch I'll probably fall in love with it.
For the same reasons one of my other favourite films is The Witch.
I don't mind period pieces but this one was a huge bore. I kinda wonder how a movie like this would have performed at boxoffice in post-covid environment
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18 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Wait, what? I was hoping for $5M for THE WAY OF WATER, but was told it would be difficult since the movie would lose those important premium screens.
Isn't DH just inventing numbers here? 😂😂😂 Because those are insane holds. And my goodness, PUSS IN BOOTS: THE LAST WISH. I could not be any happier for that movie. It has finally bumped BLACK ADAM from the top 10 of 2022. 😂
A2 lost only 22% of PLF shows (19K -> 15K). It lost higher % of shows than this during the Knock at the Cabin release weekend. It did lose all the 2,300 Imax shows though
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13 minutes ago, M37 said:
I feel that way about Mad Max Fury Road. Not arguing it was bad or boring, just could not get into it, no matter how many times I tried
I do not need to be convinced why I’m wrong, just wasn’t for me
I personally didn't like Fury Road that much as I am not really a big action movie buff but I atleast sorta understood why it had such good WOM and worked for general audience. With Revenant, the only positive thing I have to say about that movie is that it has some cool visuals.
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4 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
29+ looks likely. proly 29.5
do you have any numbers for the holdovers ?
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Slightly off topic. Usually even when I don't like a movie that did well at box office, I usually tend to understand why critics and general audience loved it. But the one movie over the last decade which I hated and never could understand how it did so well at boxoffice was The Revenant. One of the most boring movies I watched in theatre. There was literally nothing happening in the movie....I was shocked to see that movie doing greater than $500M at boxoffice.
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Just now, GOGODanca said:
thing is it basically never goes below the early deadline estimate, in fact most weekends it ends up a few hundred k above it and still with all the lose of premium screens you'd expect a much harsher drop
it only lost like 22% of PLF shows though...iirc, it lost even higher % of PLF shows in the weekend when Knock at the Cabin released. If that 1.4M number for Friday is accurate, then I am confident 3 day weekend will be much higher than 6.5M.
I'd expect something like
Friday - 1.4M
Saturday - 3.15M (+125%)
Sunday - 2.7M (-15%)
So around 7.25M 3 day weekend if the Friday number is 1.4M
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8 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:
The rest of the top five includes Universal/DreamWorks Animation’s Puss in Boots: The Last Wish at 2,675 with a robust ninth weekend of $6.4M over 3 (+15%) and $8.5M over 4 days getting the animated sequel to $169.3M, beating last year’s domestic final of Sing 2 ($162.7M). The pic’s Friday is $1.45M.
Third belongs to the tenth weekend of 20th/Lightstorm/Disney’s Avatar: The Way of Water at 2,675 locations with a $1.4M Friday, with a $6.5M 3-day (-10%), 4 day of $8.1M, running total of $659M which will make the James Cameron directed movie the 9th highest of all-time on the domestic box office list.
Fourth is Warner Bros.’ second weekend of Magic Mike’s Last Dance at 3,034 with a $1.5M Friday, 3 day of $4.7M (-43%), 4-day of $5.4M and running total just under $18M.
Paramount’s 80 for Brady is fifth at 3,119 with a third Friday of $1.05M, 3-day of $4M, -31%, 4-day of $4.7M and running total of $33.3M.
What the heck? Puss increasing and A2 barely dropping
that A2 number is quite interesting...I'd have guessed it would be around 1.2-1.25M but I wasn't exactly sure how impactful would be losing IMAX shows. I don't think 1.4M is unrealistic...if you use last week's Thursday -> Friday growth, then Friday would be 1.33M. Anything above 1.25M for me is super positive number
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special thanks to @katnisscinnaplex for your weekly update of show count of each movie.
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8 minutes ago, M37 said:
That, and many theaters were on reduced operating hours last weekend due to low business, and have flipped to über long hours this week
So a 12/4/8 Avatar, vs like 10/1/4/7/10 for Ant-Man
I checked total number of IMAX shows for the 2 weekends before last one and they were 2878, so roughly the same as last weekend.
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So A2 is losing only 23% of PLF shows... that's much better than what I expected. It's losing almost all the IMAX shows though
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2 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie TC Shows Change Standard Last PSA PLF IMAX 3D Ant-Man 3 3,683 191,032 147,834 43,198 5,596 27,297 Magic Mike 3 2,665 34,306 14.61% 34,233 240.52 73 0 0 80 for Brady 2,704 32,309 -29.26% 32,244 126.99 65 0 0 Knock at the Cabin 2,290 28,513 -36.21% 28,473 121.38 40 0 0 Puss in Boots 2 2,657 27,326 -16.82% 27,182 169.85 144 0 68 Marlowe 2,126 26,363 26,302 61 0 0 Avatar 2 2,303 22,083 -30.57% 7,420 226.94 14,663 6 14,637 Titanic 25 Year 1,891 15,285 -34.56% 0 241.31 15,285 0 15,285 A Man Called Otto 1,358 9,904 -57.60% 9,873 111.40 31 0 0 Missing 1,260 9,216 -56.88% 9,213 119.40 3 0 0 M3GAN 1,255 8,414 -64.21% 8,409 102.60 5 0 0 Plane 505 3,028 -76.74% 3,028 92.51 0 0 0 The Amazing Maurice 402 2,596 -78.41% 2,593 3 0 0 Winnie-the-Pooh 405 1,843 1,843 0 0 0 USA Showtimes Sample - 2/17 Weekend
OW Showtimes CompsAnt-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - 191,032 (3,683 TC)
- No Way Home - 206,421 (3,340)
- Thor 4 - 194,969 (3,540)
- Batman - 171,959 (3,553)
- Top Gun - 182,709 (3,834)
- Avatar 2 - 193,730 (3,567)
- Black Panther 2 - 222,802 (3,599)
Marlowe (3-Day) - 26,363 (2,126 TC)
- Father Stu - 27,690 (2,358)
- She Said - 26,575 (1,863)
T-1 Week Showtimes Comps
Jesus Revolution EA - 2,926 (1,890)
- Downton Abbey EA - 2,601 (2,561)
Jesus Revolution - 22,173 (1,873 TC)
- Dear Evan Hansen - 22,666 (2,163)
- Massive Talent - 21,853 (1,815)
- The 355 - 21,633 (1,838)
- Ron's Gone Wrong - 21,967 (1,984)
Cocaine Bear - 33,501 (2,362 TC)
- Halloween Kills - 32,962 (2,343)
- Jackass Forever - 32,919 (2,445)
- Death on the Nile - 33,327 (2,240)
Emily - 4,185 (355 TC)
- Belfast - 3,960 (326)
- Spirited - 3,793 (282)
T-2 Week Showtimes Comps
Creed III (EA) - 1,126 (889 TC)
- Top Gun EA - 970 (932)
Creed III - 3,817 (1,486 TC)
- Violent Night - 3,755 (1,511)
- Babylon - 3,851 (1,769)
Demon Slayer (OD) - 3,868 (1,401 TC)
T-3 Week Previews Showtimes Comps
Scream VI - 6,748 (2,192 TC)
- No Time to Die - 7,191 (1,520)
- Lost City - 5,334 (1,929)
- Dragon Ball Super - 6,877 (2,065)
T-4 Week Previews Showtimes Comps
Shazam 2 - 8,326 (1,558)
- Nope - 7,792 (1,976)
T-13 Week Previews Showtimes
Fast X - 9,320 (1,852 TC)
How come total number of IMAX shows last week were just 2950 but AntMan alone has nearly 5600 IMAX shows this week ? Is it just due to AntMan having much lesser runtime than A2, Titanic ?
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3 minutes ago, filmlover said:
It's losing pretty much everything as far as I can tell. No different from when the first movie lost all IMAX screens to Alice in Wonderland in its 12th weekend.
I am not referring to just IMAX...was talking about PLF shows in general. 60% of Avatar2's shows last week were PLF. Would be surprising if it loses all the PLF shows
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Do we know how much % of PLF shows is Avatar2 going to lose this weekend ?
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3 hours ago, Sophia Jane said:
I finally realize how rare and important is the legend such like Tom Cruise for current Hollywood after watching Marvel doing creepy shit movie and other major brand also doing terrible (like FF9) now.
what creepy movie did Marvel do ? also MCU has had like just 2 movies in rotten category out of some 35+ movies they did across 15 year span...that's quite incredible
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A2 seems to have lost nearly 60% of screenings on Wednesday
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A2 - 690K (-4% vs last Monday)
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lol I didn't realize AntMan2's RT score was 87%. I am looking at some of these earlier MCU movies RT scores and these numbers are weird. IW at 84% but AntMan2 at 87% is so baffling...it feels like whenever MCU tries to take some swings, it seems to mostly negatively affect its RT score. Still surprising to see IW at just 84% when there are like 15 MCU movies with higher rating than that
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Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania — Weekend Thread | 105.5M 3-Day, 120M 4-Day
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I don't think there is too much correlation between letterboxd scores and general audience reception. Thor L&T also had 2.8 on letterboxd. Babylon has 3.9/5 on letterboxd. I feel like Letterboxd ratings align more closely with film bros/film twitter than general audience