Jay Beezy
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1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said:
i'm not gonna say antonio banderas wins the oscar but i could see him winning the globe like isabelle huppert did for Elle to compare it to another foreign language performance a couple years ago. that could give him momentum idk. i certainly preferred his performance to both driver and phoenix (now watch him not even get nominated for the globe 2morrow)
I hope Phoenix gets snubbed so the Joker stans have a meltdown. They’ve conditioned themselves into thinking he will be getting all the awards, like it’s a sure thing.
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Joker stans are ridiculously annoying when it comes to Joaquin Phoenix awards.
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11 minutes ago, filmlover said:
In other words, that Popular Movie category that the Academy briefly considered installing last year before backing down after everyone called BS.
Exactly. 😆
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11 hours ago, filmlover said:
Pretty sure it's the studio and it's done based on where they think they have the strongest chances of getting nominated/winning. It makes sense that Knives Out is in Comedy given that there's a sense of playfulness to the whole thing but it would be completely disingenuous to place Marriage Story (which has some funny moments but the whole package is a decidedly downbeat affair) in any category but Drama. Pure genre flicks like Get Out, The Martian, Mad Max: Fury Road, Black Panther, etc. are more prone to category misplacement given that they fall outside of movies that are typically considered "prestigious."
They ought to change Comedy/Musical to Blockbuster or something like it since the category seems to be made up of the flashier movies or blockbusters or what have you regardless of actual genre.
2 hours ago, SLAM! said:Variety reported that Uncut Gems would be reclassified as a drama on Tuesday the 3rd. The end of voting was Friday the 6th at 12:00pm (pst) / 3:00pm (est).
The question is was it reclassified on that day or was it simply reported that day? Those can be two different things.
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33 minutes ago, nghtvsn said:
But if the votes already happened and people put him in comedy/musical since the film is classified as drama now does that mean those votes in the wrong category are voided ?
When are votes finalized?
Could there also be a time discrepancy in terms of when they reclassified it and when it was announced to be reclassified? Could the reclassification be based on votes?
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7 hours ago, titanic2187 said:
I think no one in the GG actually see the movie before they cast the vote, they must have been like "Adam Sandler is in it, it must a be comedy then!".
until they seen the film only realise they made a mistake.
Is it the Golden Globes who classify it that way or the studio that submits it?
Even still, despite the change in rules after The Martian, it still feels like movies that aren't comedies first and foremost are being put into that category. Like Knives Out, which is a mystery first and foremost with some funny moments, is being viewed as a comedy while Marriage Story, a comedy-drama, is being treated as a drama. Last year, Get Out was nominated for Comedy/Musical.
Regarding Uncut Gems, people seem to think that Sandler has *no* chance now because voters had supposedly already locked in their picks when the change happened, at least mentally locked in. Their predictions still seem to be based on how voters seemed to have felt *before* the change. The reality is we have no idea how voters feel about Sandler compared to the rest of the potential nominees. I'm not saying Sandler will be getting a nomination, but the impulsive reaction to the change shouldn't be that Sandler has *no* chance to get nominated now. I mean no disrespect to Jonathan Pryce, but he hasn't been nominated for any other awards yet for The Two Popes. And Christian Bale's role in Ford v Ferrari doesn't seem as central as Sandler's does in Uncut Gems.
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I’ll go with:
Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Robert DeNiro - The Irishman
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Adam Sandler - Uncut Gems
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On 12/2/2019 at 8:40 PM, filmlover said:
Adam Sandler/Uncut Gems is going Drama. I guess Sandler's not getting nominated now considering that category seems fairly stacked. Don't know who takes his place in Comedy/Musical though. Maybe Shia for The Peanut Butter Falcon? I doubt they nominate the kid from Jojo Rabbit (they tend to nominate young actors later as an IOU).
Sandler just won National Board of Review for Best Actor so he might slip in.
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National Board of Review Awards:
Best Actor for Adam Sandler
Best Original Screenplay for Josh Safdie, Benny Safdie and Ronald Bronstein
http://www.nationalboardofreview.org/2019/12/national-board-of-review-announces-2019-award-winners/
Sandler's Oscar chances going up.
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27 minutes ago, Alexdube said:
The first 5 minute of TDF will tell you Cameron is not afraid to take bold decisions. I think the only conclusion we can draw from little information we have is simply that he didn't like the idea, not that "he's not into original storytelling".
What's wrong with applying that bold approach throughout most of the film instead of just the first five minutes, which is only a prologue to set up a story that is ultimately too familiar?
The problem with James Cameron here is that he has previously insisted that T2 was the end for him. So there's a sense that he came back not because he legitimately had a great idea, but because he was tired of the Terminator franchise getting tainted by lackluster sequels.
And you suggest that because Cameron shot down the idea of a 180 spin on the formula, it was a bad idea. How about a reason why a 180 spin is a bad idea that isn't because James Cameron said so? Is Tim Miller wrong to say that setting up the movie with humanity losing sets up what's at stake for humanity?
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18 hours ago, Alexdube said:
While I agree that TDF is too similar to the first 2 movies, original doesn't mean better. It's one thing to change the formula, but building a story that works dramatically is another, and Cameron has a little bit more experience than Miller in that department. I listened to a Q & A with Miller and Cameron and one thing stuck out to me around the 26min mark.
Basically Tim Miller admitting he sometimes had nothing to bring to the table. I like his honesty and candidness, but it sounds like he just didn't work hard enough to sell his concept.
The last sequel Cameron made was T2, I think he gets the benefit of the doubt for now.
It'd be one thing if James Cameron shot down a 180 spin after exploring the possibilities himself and feeling like it didn't work, but I don't get that sense. On the other hand, I'll agree that it seems like Tim Miller didn't really sell the possibilities to Cameron on that front.
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On 11/23/2019 at 11:31 AM, Napoleon said:
James Cameron's involvement is what gave this movie some credibility. Without him, it would have done worse.
It's just unfortunate that he wasn't receptive to a 180 spin on the Terminator formula. I guess if Avatar is any indication, James Cameron is not into original storytelling these days.
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I like Miller’s idea about beginning with humanity losing. It would have created a role reversal, instead of the protector angle that we got yet again.
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3 hours ago, dudalb said:
It's also helps if you source material is good,
"Charlie's Angels" was never good source material. The original show is pretty much the definition of cheesy trash TV without the entertainment value that could make it fun.
I think subversion of expectations should be a requirement of any style of reboot to an old property, not just adding a seemingly progressive angle.
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22 hours ago, SMmadrid90 said:
It's not that deep, i think people is getting tired of reboots and sequels in general, look at Terminator, MIB or Dark Phoenix. Movies like Parasite, Rocketman and OUATIH show that when a movie is good people will see it on cinemas but Sony doesn't attract massive audience besides Spider-Man and Jumanji. That's why i think Little Women won't be a big hit even with Oscar buzz...it's another remake and the competition late-December is insane
It certainly doesn’t help that they’re being made by filmmakers who can’t seem to make anything unique out of them. Like, where’s the Lord/Miller mindset in these filmmakers?
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21 minutes ago, dudalb said:
Then you have actors whom audiences are eager to pay to see in a specific role, but who can't draw outside that role...Chris Hemsworth is an example;People love him as Thor but don't seem interested in him in any other role.
I remember people being shocked at seeing Schwimmer in the early episode of "Band of Brothers" where he played a Army officer who was a total Alpha Hotel to his men...and proved to be incompetent when it came to leading them in the field. Schwimmer was excellent in the role, but audineces just has problems seeing him as a very unlikable character.
With Hemsworth, it doesn’t help that his movies outside of Marvel have been bad for the most part. Like what if Men In Black International production went as it was supposed to and wasn’t sabotaged by a producer who just felt like it?
Also, one could make the argument that Ross wasn’t very likable either. I’ve gotten the sense Schwimmer feels the same way.
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On 11/3/2019 at 7:29 PM, lab276 said:
I like the idea that Judgement Day can only ever be postponed and never actually stopped.
That was the only good element of T3.
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4 hours ago, Barnack said:
That is true (always has been) , if Gandolfini, Hamm, Cranston didn't make it.... except Clooney & Jennifer Anniston not many stars made it past a big tv series in the last 25 year's,, it is probably for one hard to audience to not see the characters they saw you play so much all the time (i.e. it help if you can play that same characters in movies maybe).
I think the willingness to play the same archetype from your long running show is why Jennifer Aniston has maintained a significant star status over her costars, on top of being the most popular star on the show. As an actress in comedy, she was arguably the most favored female lead for the male comedy stars who dominated that landscape when they did, so she was willing to continue playing the Rachel archetype and use that success as leverage. Conversely, David Schwimmer seemed very eager to shake off the Ross archetype, but we weren't ready something different from him. That episode of Entourage he was in where people in Ari's agency kept pitching roles too similar to Ross and Schwimmer kept telling them to go fuck themselves certainly has a level of reality to it.
Other times, it is just luck. Who could have foreseen what's happened to John Krasinski in recent years?
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4 hours ago, Barnack said:
I feel like Hitman Bodyguard opening kind of proved for that to be the case, is metric must have climbed quite high for him to get that Netflix paycheck.
You mean proved his starpower?
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12 hours ago, TalismanRing said:
Star power still exists - it just has be married to the right concept/project - and that's not a new thing. It's why actors were curated within an inch of their screen life in the old studio system. The difference is IP now has become even stronger - though we've seen that even strong IP can not withstand the wrong lead or a poor script.
If movies are like burgers, IP/brand names are like the buns, starpower is like the cheese, and the meat of the movie is, well, uh... what would the meat of the movie be? 😜
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31 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:
True, it is not like you will be able to say that Harrington and Madden are big movie stars because (SPOILER) The Eternals will make a ton of money.
Starpower these days is less about ability to put butts in seats than it is about leverage that is earned from certain successes. Like Ryan Reynolds solidified his starpower with Deadpool even if his other movies don’t do particularly well. *Maybe* Emilia Clarke has that from Game of Thrones, though that was TV thus the transition is likely harder and the leverage may not be that significant.
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4 hours ago, dudalb said:
And the leap from TV Star to Movie Star is a lot harder then it looks. I would say for every TV personality who makes it to film stardom, three probably fall short .
Emilia Clark is going to have to show a more solid list of sucesses until she is movie A list.
And it’s much harder to become A-list these days because starpower doesn’t sell like it used to. Starpower is like a condiment to a movie in terms of marketing it.
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14 hours ago, Curtis1986 said:
B- cinamascore. Ouch
First bad reviews and then bad boxoffice and now this. Cant say that I'm shocked. The movie did not look good.
That is definitely low for this kind of movie.
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3 hours ago, TheDarkKnightOfSteel said:
Which reminds me...why the Fuchs isn’t Maslany A-list by now?
I looked at her filmography. She's done a lot of projects, but nothing as high profile for her as Orphan Black. Any noteworthy project name she only had a small role in.
2019 Critics/Guild Awards Thread
in And The Winner Is...
Posted · Edited by Jay Beezy
Joaquin Phoenix is already well established enough for that to not really be an issue. Alicia Vikander was fairly early into her Hollywood career when she won. I remember Alan Arkin saying he was happy Abigail Breslin didn't win for Little Miss Sunshine for that reason.