Cooper Legion

Yeah, see, I think that’s what @BestPicturePlutoNash was trying to hint at as well with their not-so-subtle addition of air quotes, and I just want to nip this in the bud. That is a gross overgeneralization. I find heavyhanded social commentary even more annoying when it is “MY politics” because it reduces the effectiveness of an overall good message.

Actually a final point here — a successful “nonfranchise” movie will more often than not become a “franchise” movie afterward. Franchises are built off successful nonfranchise first entries, be it Iron Man or A New Hope. It’s pretty natural that you will get more and more franchises as time goes on (because new ones get created easier than they get permanently killed). And it’s pretty natural that people expect to like an average franchise movie more than an original — the franchise movie is literally the result of selection pressure acting on originals, so it could hardly be otherwise from a process point of view.

I would like to be excluded from this narrative 😛 👍 Kind of a condescending way to put it imo. I’ll just hope for more movies I enjoy, be they franchise or not (more Knives Outs and Kubos and such would be great). Anyway, I have said my piece. I know it’s contentious around here, and we’re starting to go in circles. I’ll try to bow out of the conversation for now.

Sure, lots of stuff. I can’t speak to what you might mean by “heavy-handed” social commentary, but I assure you that heavy-handed social commentary bothers many people. Get Out leaned into it cleverly, Black Panther and Eternals weren’t heavy-handed imo, and CM was a little overwrought on that axis for me but has plenty of positives as well — this is just one factor among many.

Damn, we’re going to beat Endgame Th by over 50%

I mean, kinda? Not like, the *only* thing that can get it done. I wouldn’t say that’s what excited people about TLK, or TS4, or F2, or BATB, or TGS. But hollywood has made enough Oscar aimed movie now that people can pick up that vibe, and some people like to watch all of those movies and for a lot of people it’s not for them. It’s about taste, intelligence has nothing to do with it. Nobody is being under or overestimated, but if you look at what grosses stuff earned in 2021, 2019, 2018, even going further back the trends kind of speak for themselves. This “they were marketed poorly” thing is like 90% of the time a fig leaf imo. How do you think they should have been marketed instead, concretely, and why would that have led to significantly higher grosses? Oh yeah, looks like a streamer (to be clear, I have seen this one and quite liked it). Silence of the lambs 1991 131M got a DOM 45th rank afaics, which nowadays is like 380M. I doubt it would hit 100M if released today, possibly quite lower. It’s been literally more than three decades since that came out — the environment has undergone a sea change and there’s no coming back however much people might be nostalgic for 1991 general audience behavior.

I haven’t seen any of these movies. They didn’t seem appealing to me 🤷‍♂️ You’re actually right about the Promising Young Woman trailer though — it did a pretty good job of seeming like a thriller and made me interested in seeing it (plus Bo). So did some of the synopses and such. It wasn’t until near it was coming out and I got a more full idea of the plot+ some (positive) reviews from friends that I realized it probably wasn’t going to be my cup of tea (it sounded kind of depressing with some heavyhanded social commentary — sort of similar to The Last Duel actually).

Is that ATP calculation just adult price*seats for all shows over seats sold?

They’re restrictive/not for big audiences because they don’t look exciting. It’s as simple as that.

$752,000,000 would be a result of 4th place (behind TFA, AEG, Avatar).

Would not be especially strange for a 50M 3PM with massive effective sellouts to have markedly different regional ratio than a handful of piddling 8-13M guys.

Those are all final comps so they are exactly as coalesced as they were t-17 and as coalesced as they will be at t-0. All it really says is that BW V2 Eternals and SC had similar national/Sacto ratio as each other.

Encanto will scrape by 100 unless d+ release stops it I guess. Will be interesting to see how much impact there.

I think the difference between a single market film and a global appeal is pretty clear. A movie which did 900M DOM and like 20M OS would feel equally weird as a “worldwide” #1.

By the way, if people prefer to just input grosses for the weekends I’m happy to convert that into ranks on our end.

WSS I suspect will go around 45M but I wouldn't be shocked if it legs to like 70 either which would end up kind of fine.

We have people who personally like to see non IP in theaters, I totally get that. But like, mathematically -- it just is not the case the exhibition needs nonIP to survive. If it literally went to zero a relatively modest % increase in IP movie gross/year would cancel it out.

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Ah, right. But still looks like 2.5-3M Th and Fri maybe? Lose Sat, likely win Sun.

Got your wish A pretty nice day, let’s hope next few follow suit

Seems high? NWH is doing like 2-3% daily growth and base is still like 75Mish so should be ballpark 2-2.5M dailies right? Maybe can win Sun if it accelerates.

Numbers I really care about this week are resident evil, Eternals, V2, and nttd 😂

Imagine what the DOM-NYC numbers must looks like 👀

Wouldn’t be spider-man:endgame without some serious sad vibes

Way ahead of you buddy. Vast vast majority of movies that are interesting to me as a vector of daily gross I will never see, and certainly not pay for a trip to see.