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2 hours ago, Lordmandeep said:
The prequels got a bad rep from fans but ROTS was mostly liked by the fanbase and kept interest in star wars going and attracted a new generation of Star War fans.
Like most people on that 18 to 30 age group of star war fans grew up on the prequels.
My point is we shall see episode 9 will leave this trilogy on a high as well. Because currently the Disney Star Wars films are losing more fans then making new one i think.
Sure, the prequels created a new generation of fans. That's why there was a bitter, loud divide in the fanbase (just as there is now, and just as loud). For the new fans they created the PT was their Star Wars and many were angry with the old guard for diminishing their enjoyment of them with the unending criticisms. ROTS was the least disliked for many of those older fans but the criticisms of it didn't change or drop off all that much. Certainly not enough to make Lucas feel any differently about making more movies (that answer from him about making more came just a couple of years before he sold to Disney).
The Sequel Trilogy has created a new generation of fans to. It might be hard to gauge just how many at this point. I don't think toy sales can be used as an accurate measuring stick because kids today have so much more to choose from to spend their free time on. Certainly more than we did during the OT period and even when the PT was coming out. I had a ton of SW toys growing up but I have no doubt that if I had access to today's gaming systems or tablets I wouldn't have owned many basic action figures or vehicles, even with the modest upgrades they've had since then.
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1 hour ago, Lordmandeep said:
They do but I think people hate them for being silly and dumb rather then "destroying the world of Star Wars"
You realize the PT gave rise to the "George Lucas raped my childhood!!" reactions right?
The heated opinions on the PT have softened since the Disney revival because, at the time, most people thought that the prequels were going to be the franchise's send off and there would be no more movies to follow. That and the fires have had over a decade to die down. But make no mistake, a large swath of the fans weren't very accepting of them back when they came out just because they were Lucas' creation. Just ask Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, or Ahmed Best how accepting they were. When asked about making more Star Wars movies (before he decided to sell the company) Lucas himself responded why would he make more when people just end up telling you how much of a terrible person you are for having made them.
No offense to your uncle but on this, the dude is just wrong.
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4 hours ago, JGAR4LIFE said:
True, I feel like they could’ve spaced out things a lot more. 2019 in particular has not 2 but 3 live action remakes. I imagine 2020 will have The Little Mermaid and the already confirmed Maleficient sequel, while 2021 could have the recently announced Lilo and Stitch remake.
They have Mulan slated for 2020 and it's already in production. They don't seem to be in any hurry with TLM, yet.
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If you missed him in the international trailer you may need to have your eyes and ears checked.
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10 hours ago, tribefan695 said:
I'm pretty sure the political spectrum of people who actually care about the Oscars leans far to the left
It probably does but as soon as you add a viewer participation component you're creating what some will view as a platform. What you'd end up with is the prestige normally associated with an Academy Award crossed with the shenanigans of the RT audience score.
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Not that they could ever lure him back, but giving GotG 3 to Edgar Wright and watching the Gunn fans and Wright stans go at it would be at least an amusing post-A4 distraction.
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33 minutes ago, Morieris said:
They're still peddling the magical MoviePass abuse line?
MoviePass: See a movie a day for only $9.95 per month
/attend 2 movies in a month
MoviePass: You're abusing the system !!!
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2 hours ago, Darth Homer said:
I'm gonna try and use my pass to see MI or TTG:TTM tomorrow (theatre-hopping if I need to); that's if the ticketing system is still up.
It supposedly still works for buying MI tickets for Landmark theaters.
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7 hours ago, Porthos said:
Apparently having a eccentric billionaire helping to self-fund a project greases a lot of wheels in the animation world. Who knew? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've always thought that George was willing to take a bit of a bath on TCW in the interest of getting his animation team up to the point he wanted them to be at in the event that he was able to put Strange Magic into production. Didn't end up helping the later none too much either way.
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2 hours ago, Serpico Jones said:
Jon Schnepp is dying. His fiancée just posted on Instagram that he suffered a catastrophic stroke last Thursday and is currently on life support. I hope he pulls through but it’s not looking good.
Truly horrible news.
After seeing Kevin Smith, who is not much younger than Schnepp, cheat death not too long ago, I hope some of the same good fortune can find it's way to Jon. The guy is way too young for this.
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1 hour ago, Chewy said:
when ur social media person isnt very good at their job
People always seemed to like all of those Deathpool gags on the Twitter. We should give that a shot.
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Looks like Starscream won't be alone.
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1 hour ago, filmlover said:
Christopher McQuarrie (Mission: Impossible 5 and 6) says he'll never make a Star Wars movie because of the toxic fandom. Here's hoping more people join in taking a stand.
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-wars-loses-potential-director-thanks-to-fan-harassment
The problem with such a stand is that a good chunk of that toxic fandom is actively wanting the franchise to collapse. A large percentage of established name directors opting out of ever directing one of the movies is an incremental step towards that goal.
But there would be a sweet tinge of irony to Rian Johnson ending up directing the majority of them for the foreseeable future due to a lack of takers.
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1 hour ago, The Futurist said:
Have many flirts between superheroes did we have in movies ?
Batman and Catwoman, twice.
Nat & Hulk, kinda ...
It seems this little ant has a wasp crush ...
Joker & Harley Quinn
Vision & Scarlet Witch
Who else ?
Daredevil and Elektra ... with Affleck and Garner tying the knot for reals a couple of years afterwards.
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1 hour ago, dudalb said:
It possible to like McGregor as Obi Wan but still have a disdain for the prequels as a whole..the first two in particular.
And is disagree strongly that the main character in a SW film has got to be a Jedi. Problem with Solo was not that idea of a Solo movie was bad, but that the execution was lacking.Rogue One did not have A Jedi main character but did fine at the box office.
I am really opposed to proposing a certain formula as a key to success, it's all about the execution.
Of course you can like McGregor as Obi-Wan and still have an otherwise low regard for the prequels. The Disney era movies have leaned pretty heavily on OT era nostalgia though. TFA did it to such an extent that there were some people who looked at that as a not so subtle repudiation of the particular part of the franchise they happen to like the most.
And I didn't say anything about having to have a jedi as the main character in a SW movie. I just think that maybe (spitballing here) that the GA sees Star Wars in very narrow terms. It scratches a particular itch with them. And once you take away enough of the elements that indicate that's what a movie will be doing (flashing around a lightsaber is one of those) then you better be replacing all of that with something compelling. Solo didn't, at least not in it's marketing (so yeah it was half of the problem). Rogue One still had enough of that old secret sauce showing up in the marketing; conflict between good guys and bad guys playing out on an epic scale, WW2 styled combat in space, Vader, and all of it bound together in sweeping orchestral pieces. I think the core fans see the franchise as a bit more than that particular mix but I don't think LFL has succeeded in cultivating that same regard with the general audience yet.
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15 hours ago, Arlborn said:
I am not too sure, that’s just what I keep hearing in different places on the internet. I guess it being the original* actor helps since people seem to be very fond of Mcgregor in general.
Thats just what I think they’ll end up focusing on now.
Yeah of all the various spin-off ideas that have been floated out there, Obi-Wan is the one that has probably garnered the most fan support outside of Rogue One. I'm not wanting to see them go that way myself but of the ones that are known to be in development it's probably the smartest play. When the disaffected camp of fans was starting to take shape a few years ago some of the earliest adopters were the prequelists who believe that the new blood at Lucasfilm harbors a certain disdain for those movies. Bringing McGregor back would reach out to that group. And the character is a jedi so they can use lightsaber combat in the marketing. I think that part of the problem they had with marketing Solo to the general audience was that it was stripped of too many of the franchise's traditional hallmarks that the GA identifies with it, undercutting it's surface appeal.
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12 minutes ago, Mekanos said:
When Infinity War hits 2 billion is Feige or anybody else gonna release a special statement? It's a franchise first.
Probably. Disney will want to float a reminder out there for Fox shareholders voting on their offer in about a month that they have one of the most prolifically successful franchises in their stable and not just a Star Wars property in the midst of a stumble.
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42 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said:
She did a podcast or something called Marvel Watchers. One day marvel replaced her and she immediately went full Marvel hater. Then Marvel banned her from their events/interviews as well. She didn't take it lightly.
It was a web show.
Well show might be a little generous. Most of the vids were like 5ish minutes long.
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35 minutes ago, Nova said:
The best Vampire related anything is Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the show) and I will fight anyone who tries to tell me otherwise.
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2 hours ago, cookie said:
Remember, kids: crack is whack.
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8 minutes ago, Barnack said:
Not the first time a read this, is it true, I just remember some irrelevant claim about Solo first days of pre-sales beating black panther first days pre-sales, never that it was selling better in general.
And BP tickets went on sale further away from the opening date than Solo's did. More than 2 weeks further away from it as I remember. Solo outselling it in the first 24 hours isn't outlandish, even with the poor performance opening weekend.
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30 minutes ago, Jay Beezy said:
Campea always said there were too many factors against a high opening weekend. He said he never believed the tracking and that it would be 100M OW. I told him that on his last open mic and he felt vindicated.
I wouldn't go that far.
He said he initially thought it might open to about $100M but he started buying into the tracking and the Fandago presales stories after they made the rounds. He's trying to say now he never thought it would do that well but he certainly didn't call bullocks on those tracking numbers at the time. Just listen to his Star Wars Talk vid from May 6 (which is still up for now).
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