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14 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
On the subject of SW and TLJ… I knew immediately the massive damage that movie would do (even though at the time you would have been told by many online that audiences “loved” it and only toxic trolls didnt). 6 years later has there ever truly been a blockbuster that left such a negative and rippling impact on a franchise, even so many media iterations later?
The thing about TLJ is it backed SW into a corner. People talk about “oh, well a lot of the damage is because ROS sucked so hard after TLJ too”, but ROS only sucked so hard BECAUSE of TLJ in the first place. There was absolutely nowhere to go from there, it felt like the ultimate troll move from Johnson and the real reason so many of us were so upset with the film.
Didn’t help either that RJ was a total instigator following that movie’s release and fanned a bazillion flame wars by refusing to acknowledge people’s legitimate issues and making it all a “toxic losers on the Internet” thing. Which was a very small vocal minority of the huge majority who hated several choices the movie made for the franchise for very valid reasons. And I will never really get over that movie for the way it made SW lose all its magic for me and just feel not fun anymore. It truly has never been any fun to discuss or be a fan of since then and it sucks.
One could insert a different movie between TFA and TROS and could actually make TROS MUCH better than it was.
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5 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
Basically the fact that TFA clearly wanted Rey's ancestry to be an important smoking gun to be revealed later, while TLJ wanted Rey to be a nobody, and then ROS went back to what TFA wanted it to be in regards to the "chosen one" thing. It's just another case of something that really went back and forth throughout the trilogy
TLJ would have been a great sequel to a completely different movie than TFA. Likewise, TROS was a sequel to something completely different from TLJ. So, TLJ and TROS were both sequels of movies we never saw. And TFA was a prequel to movies we never GOT to see. That's how I summarize the trilogy.
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The Flash less than Lightyear domestically???
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Anything close to $200 million domestic feels like a win for this one.
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2 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
Seems like a beginning of upcoming big change
Just curious (because I have no idea), what changes are on the horizon?
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With regards to TLM's domestic run, it feels like it will have lost a weekend. Going from $23 million to $10 million feels like it skipped a weekend worth about $14 million nestled in there. That could end up costing it about $25-$30 million, thus possibly keeping it from $300 million (although I think they'll keep it around long enough to just make that number). It was a REALLY weird weekend for all movies last weekend.
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1 hour ago, Vector Sigma said:
I saw a woman from Japan post on Instagram how much she loved the movie and it was filled with racist comments (from English speakers too lol). I despise these kinds of movies but gave it a shot after reading those comments and was pleasantly surprised. I loved the movie. Bailley has an innocent charm to her and even her cadence is like Bailley. They didn't advertise the movie well. Lots of people don't even know it takes place in Jamaica. Makes way more sense to have a Black Ariel. I'm a Jamaican and we have plenty of folk tales about mermaids, so it felt natural to me. Most of the movies that have flopped this year have been with White leads. Do we stop giving White actors roles because of this summer? C'mon man.
The Japanese woman said she loved the movie but did so by filling her review with racist comments? I'm confused.
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18 hours ago, Human said:
I am not a Potterhead, but I know many of them. They were too busy crying to see it in theaters again, and they all knew they were going to buy it on home media later.
Well, the latter is the case with all movies. That doesn't explain it.
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Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I am going to say Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Part 2. The movie had the biggest opening weekend at the time and had $43 million MIDNIGHT previews (forget about the 3pm ones we have today). The film got a 96% on RT and had great WOM. It was THE event a generation had been waiting for. But it seems like everyone who ever wanted to see it did so in the first weekend only. The movie was tailor made for repeat viewings but dropped an inexcusable 72% in its second weekend. And it ended up with a 2.25x multiplier, far below the others. Still, to this day, the movie is loved and is seen as one of the best finales of a major series. It should easily have crossed $400 million domestic, probably closer to $450 million.
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So.....was keeping Ezra Miller the reason for this debacle????
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Wow! The Flash! Wow! What the HELL happened???
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Well they need to friggin' get going with a Pac Man movie ASAP!!! Live action preferably!!!
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1 hour ago, Eric 2099 said:
Saw this tweet a few days ago, and now knowing that Beyond the Spider-Verse isn't even close to ready...next year's gonna be 2021 levels of barren. One step forward, two steps back kind of stuff.
What is "PTA"?
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18 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
Which is interesting because if TLM drops by the same amount today, it will actually be less than Monday's number. But we can't determine what the overall box office will be just from one "bad" Tuesday bump.
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38 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:
6.1m Tuesday for TLM.
Ouch that is a far cry from Aladdin. It increased half as much as Aladdin did for the same day. That seems troublesome.
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I'm not so sure, actually, about The Marvels hitting $250 million. I'd say Aquaman has a much better shot because of the holiday release. But as we've seen, early November releases don't get spectacular multipliers.
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Super Mario was a sort of fun movie but DANG the plot was rather juvenile and overly simplistic and formulaic. But it goes to show that people are more likely to cling to simpler plots in movies that are fun I guess.
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51 minutes ago, ando said:
TLM- $4.57M identical -66% as Aladdin. Hopefully we will see a similar big boost on Tuesday for $7M+
IF we really want to be technical:
Aladdin dropped 65.78%
TLM dropped 65.56%
So TLM had a better hold😋
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2 hours ago, Liiviig 1998 said:
Since when saying it won't match Aladdin Tuesday and Wednesday doomposting .
STill have this doing 315m+ comfortably.
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think it's gonna jump that big on Tuesday and yeah Wednesday can increase from Monday but i think it will be below 5.1m.
Will see tommorrow .
Since there's no way to say that based on anything we saw. Monday's number was identical to Aladdin's second Monday. So there's no indication that TLM won't match Aladdin's Tuesday, Wednesday, and any other day.
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TLM is pretty much identical to Aladdin's drop. How does that at all warrant all the doom and gloom? Suddenly because the drop is off by about 0.1-0.2% it is going to miss $300 million? LOL-that's funny stuff!
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What specifically does TLM need to break even? I read that production was $250m and global marketing was $140 m. So wouldn't $400 million do the trick? Or is there another cost I am not factoring?
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TLM doesn't have to match Aladdin's domestic in order to qualify for "good legs". Aladdin's legs were exceptional.
TLM's predictions have been a yo-yo. Pre-release, the previews were looking golden. Then they were only ok. Then the total Friday looked great. But then Saturday was meh. The mid week numbers were looking like amazing legs. Then this past weekend was seen by some as being only "ok". Then, when taking into consideration that ATSV made $120 m, the weekend looked good. Up, down, round, and round.
Btw @Bob TrainRise of Gru is looking like a pretty great comparison!
However, something that seems to be affecting any Disney release is the now-ingrained mindset that it will be out on D+ in 3 months. With movies not attached to a studio that has a streaming service, the home availability is less certain and unknown.
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1 minute ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
I agree with this but isn't it possible that that maybe happened with AtSV too? We still don't know what this series can peak at... Maybe it has insane legs. I'm thinking 400M+ DOM. Or, maybe it capped off a lot of audience opening weekend and it has a lower ceiling that we realize? We'll just have to wait and see.
I think that Beyond the Spiderverse could do Mario numbers next year. The hype seems to be there and BTSV could be the Engame to ATSV's Infinity War. Of course, there's a HIGH probability that it won't be the #1 movie next year due to a little project known as Avatar 3.
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2 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:
I'd expect to behave similar to Incredibles 2 in terms of multiplier. That said, didn't Incredibles did 18.5M Thursday previews for an eventual 182.7M OW DOM. Spider Verse did 17.4M Thursday previews for a 120.5M OW DOM. So maybe more like a CBM than Incredibles 2?
Incredibles 2 opened SO high that its multiplier was slightly muted from what it would otherwise have been. It had a 3.35 multiplier (which is outstanding for a movie that opened over $180 m). I remember the same question came up for that one since it seemed to open like an Avengers movie at the time.
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I would add one bit of essential advice to this to make it applicable to today. RUN, actually SPRING to streaming and FAR away from theaters as possible. Don't look back. Keep focused on streaming and pretend that theaters do not exist. Do that and there's a remote shot rather than 0% shot. It becomes reality and not satire, but one with a slight chance of being made.