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9 minutes ago, John Marston said:
Apocalypse set up Sinister in its post credits scene. They clearly decided to change it to the Phoenix storyline to try and cash in on Sophie Turner becoming well known from
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of Thrones
I hope that wasn’t the reason lol her character was completely unlikable in game of thrones. GoT fans didn’t have the appetite for two potential disappointments, one was more than enough.
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42 minutes ago, jedijake said:
Dark Phoenix is about a character who, in this X-Men series, was only just introduced in the last movie which wasn't well received. Also, that character was played by someone other than the original (Famke Janssen) just as Han Solo was played by someone other than Harrison Ford in the Solo movie. As much as Sophie Turner may have been liked in GOT, she didn't have time to gain enough of an X-Men following as Fassbender, McCovoy, or Lawrence. I think all of that has helped to feed into the problem with DP.
And as the previous poster said, MIB4 without Jones and Smith could run into the same problem despite having Hemsworth, Thompson, and Neeson.
Good point, the Dark Phoenix story line needed more movies to set it up properly but they were never going to get that anyway. They did the best they could with what they had it’s got some great action sequences and some pretty good acting. Overseas audience will help it do ok, they won’t be as harsh on it.
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4 hours ago, Chewy said:
Slop 2 more like Flop 2
Dark Phoenix more like Dark Flopnix
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Wow you are like so smart
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11 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Netflix has nothing to fall back on is burning through cash and will lose subscribers so yeah at some point I think they will be in a lot more trouble than Disney. No idea why they have taken so long on streaming. It's dumb
Yeah ok dude sure call me when Disney gets 150 million subs or however many Netflix has by the time they actually start their own streaming service. And they are not bleeding any money they are in the black.
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1 hour ago, cdsacken said:
I'm pretty sure Disney is doing just fine.
Netflix I'm not so sure. They definitely will raise prices at least 2 more times in the next couple years.
Disney doesn’t even have a streaming platform or any subs but Netflix is doing worse than them? OK..
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14 minutes ago, expensiveho said:
Well of course any content provider wants to keep hold of their old content instead of giving it up, this doesn’t prove what you think it does though.
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7 hours ago, Finnick said:
I dont understand why you are wasting your time with him, he is clearly trolling. He hates Disney so much which is fine as it is his own choice. This ass wrecked havoc when Venom was released and spend weeks insulting Marvel or anything Disney related. Give it a rest and just ignore him.
It’s called having a different opinion dipshit. Still salty about Venom doing well? Lol What a loser you are, grow up.
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5 minutes ago, UserHN said:
Lol. You shouldn't invest in stocks with that way of thinking. I rest my case. You seem woefully ignorant of stock matters. Investors are very happy and here you are.. Just a piece of advice. Read Bloomberg or Reuters from time to time. Next thing we know, you are questioning AT&T's $85B acquisition of WB. If there are things you should be questioning, one of them should be Netflix's and Tesla's very high valuations given their measly net income (or loss for Tesla's case). Anyway, I don't want to argue business matters to someone like you.
You seem all defensive now and your just throwing around personal insults like you lost. You just said a whole load of nothing. Let me give you some advice, get off your high horse.
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8 minutes ago, UserHN said:
I'm very sure that Disney will make a profit of that measly $4B that it paid for Star Wars. It looked like George Lucas sold it cheaply. And like I said, the investor happiness in their stock gains alone will make the Fox acquisition very worthy for them.
They didn’t buy Star Wars just to make their money back. This was supposed to be the biggest cash cow for them, even bigger than Marvel but after solo that’s a pipe dream. You can dress it up how you like but they essentially overpaid for Fox and everyone knows it. X-men won’t work that well with the Avengers if you think about it, a world where everyone loves super people meets a world where everyone is supposed to hate super people. Oh sure if Disney can get some people to sub to Disney+ good for them but they are entering the lions den where new content is king of streaming, nobody is subscribing to watch old things from years ago.
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2 minutes ago, UserHN said:
Scroll this page up and look for my very long comment in the middle of the page. I added some there. Also, you shouldn't look at the short term gains. Think long term.
You shouldn’t assume money is guaranteed just because someone owns something. You think everything Disney owns turns to gold but look at Star Wars for a reality check.
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11 minutes ago, UserHN said:
Uhmm. No. Maybe you should read Bloomberg or Reuters sometimes. That $71B price tag for Fox includes the company's 39% stake in Sky. Yes, Fox tried to outbid Comcast in buying Sky and they lost. When they lost, they decided to sell their 39% to Comcast so that Comcast can have full control of Sky. That 39% amounts to almost $16B and all that will go to Disney's purse because that is included in Disney's $71B valuation of the Fox assets that it is buying.
Disney still got ripped off and it shows if they sold there last remaining stake of Sky to Comcast. And they don’t get the Simpsons for another two years either. Ouch!
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15 minutes ago, UserHN said:
Streaming is their main reason. Just ask Bob Iger. And who said that's the only one where they can profit. Aside from Fox's film division, their TV production division is huge too. And most importantly, the international TV networks that Fox controls are now Disney's. I don't know if you're also aware, but Disney paid half of that price in stocks and half in cash. Another one, Disney already sold Fox's stake in Sky for around $16B and the Fox regional sports networks for around $14B. So take $30B off that $71B.
Disney didn’t sell Sky to Comcast they were trying to buy them too but got out bid from Comcast. None of that money that Comcast bought Sky goes to Disney. That’s going straight to the Murdochs so add back that $30B
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5 hours ago, UserHN said:
They bought Fox so that they will have huge pipeline of contents to put on their streaming services. Regarding X-Men, I'm pretty sure Disney wants Dark Phoenix to die a quick death so that people will forget it quickly. They will be rebooting X-Men anyway, in about 5 years time. Their own MCU X-Men is the one they will be promoting really hard.
Streaming and x-men ain’t gonna get them that sweet 71 billion profit no matter how much you want to dream otherwise Fox wouldn’t even be selling.
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41 minutes ago, The Gotham Bank said:
They will get around a 95-100% return with the Avatar sequels according to some members on this site.
Which members said this? You/they think Disney will make over 71 million profit with 3/4 Avatar movies?
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2 hours ago, cdsacken said:
They have a 100+ years of content from Fox alone.
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42 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
They purchased Marvel for 4 billion when it was producing mostly trash. How good of a choice was that?
Uhh that just tells me they got ripped off with Fox lol. It’s not like Fox was putting out hits, but the big price tag was mostly Comcast making Disney sweat for it. I wouldn’t call the first iron man trash, it’s actually to this day the best iron man and that was from Paramount.. then Disney bought Marvel and we got that hot mess which was iron man 2.
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18 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Marvel before Disney bought was ........yikes
They have had their ups and downs buy Disney has done pretty damn well.
I wasn’t talking about how much money they have made, just because something makes a lot of money doesn’t mean it’s good. It always becomes about the money with any criticism of Disney. Disney’s bank account isn’t going to magically make me enjoy their formulaic movies any better.
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4 hours ago, jedijake said:
Did Disney even spend anything on Dark Phoenix? I mean, maybe some marketing, but the movie was pretty much done by the time Disney bought Fox and made it official. They didn't really put any of their own money down on DP so I don't see how anything can be considered a loss.
Is the movie even considered a BV film?
Well you see that’s the thing, they effectively spent $71.3 billion on Fox so they will want to see some sort of return on that.
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7 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Whatever that formula is it's working. Whatever WB is doing this year isn't working.
It’s working because they’ve bought big franchises like Star Wars(and somehow ruined that already), Marvel, Avatar and put their name behind them. Any studio who had Marvel with that set up would be doing the same numbers. Take Marvel away and suddenly they go from hot to just an OK studio.
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2 hours ago, The Futurist said:
Avatar was such a Disney movie anyway.
Remember, back in the day, Walt himself wanted to make John Carter in animation.
John Carter the written prototype of all space fantasy that led to Star Wars and Avatar ...
Cameron probably devoured the book as a kid.
That’s not really a good thing, to have a movie style that makes you think more of the studio than the movie itself. Is ‘Disney’ it’s own genre of films now? Lol That’s why I like other studios because they make movies that can be completely different from each other instead of this same formulaic Disney approach for all their movies.
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On 3/28/2019 at 11:12 AM, cdsacken said:
I'm so confused. I rewatched this and liked it ALOT more. Problems were still there but Hardy is so good as is Venom. Strangely...I think I very much want to see a Sequel.
Your wish is our command
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17 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Imo it was bad. I was more referring to objectively horrendous reviews. Definitely worse than Suicide Squad.
You are part of the 29% percent of audiences or what we like to call the minority, hell maybe you are one of the critics who gave it bad scores and later got salty. 81% of audiences did love us though. Higher further faster than your typical mcu film
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10 hours ago, cdsacken said:
Not sure that's a problem. Many literally hated Venom yet it did 885 WW.
Edit 855 my bad.
Still fighting that good fight we see! Just remember no matter how many times you repeat it in that succulent head audiences will still love us
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1 minute ago, Djsoke said:
I don't think the trailers did the film justice. I went in with fairly low expectations because I didn't like the trailers but was pleasantly surprised.
What surprised you? The deleted scenes or something else?
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It’s made by Sony/Marvel. Seeing that Sony logo at the beginning must make your ditsy head explode.