Ororo Munroe
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Just now, Valonqar said:
It's absolutely directed at you. And I'm not wrong.
There's no goalpost shifting since I previously said 600 was likely but that it could fall short of 650. I've been consistent. So yeah you are wrong, not surprising you wouldn't recognize that though.
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1 hour ago, vale9001 said:
third weekend jurassic world 54.5M
third weekend barbie: 54M
second week weekdays jurassic world 43M
second week weekdays barbie 55M
third week weekdays jurassic world 27M
third week weekdays barbie: after 55M this week way more than that, trust me 🤣
it's absolutely still in thhe territory of JW, making the difference lower and lower.
Did I say it wasn't in the JW territory? Lol I simply said 650 isn't locked and it isn't. Weekdays are likely not going to be as strong going forward and it needs to have even better holds to reach 650.
26 minutes ago, Valonqar said:Don't worry, it's just one poster here who was hoping Barbie would miss 600M but since that ain't gonna happen, she is now hoping Barbie will miss 650M. Goalpost shifting if there was ever one.
I hope this isn't directed at me because you would be wrong, as you often are.
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13 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Barbie is likely enjoying another sub-40% drop next weekend when it might be able to get some PLF screens back (and the only major new opener being a dumpy horror movie). It's much more likely than not remaining #1 until Equalizer 3 on Labor Day weekend at this point.
Another? It hasn't had a sub 40s drop yet.
Also, 650 is definitely not locked. Lol
Going out to see TMNT now. ✌
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25 minutes ago, Fanboy said:
Well TGM is the only movie released in summer that has made it to 700M. Its late legs aren't going to be as good but it's got a $60M lead on it so the longer it can stay above it the more chance it has. I'll eat my hat if Barbie doesn't make it to $600M at this point.
Ha. Yeah 600M is likely happening. Just saying there is still some distance to go before it gets there, let alone 700M. Lol We will see but it's plausible that it doesn't even get to 650.
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That says more about TGM especially with Barbie having the edge almost every week so far. Barbie needs to get to 600M first, which is not yet guaranteed. 😅 lol
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Well this weekend will be very interesting, indeed. TMNT has a shot of breaking up the Barbenheimer party, surpassing Oppy for second place. I guess Meg 2 has a shot as well. Looks like Barbie could have similar numbers to TGM's 3rd weekend, after all.
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1 hour ago, Dephira said:
I’m pretty sure a Gal Gadot Wonder Woman is one of the DCEU’s better prospects. She is still very popular and fits the role well. Luckily for Warner, most people saw WW1984 it on streaming so I think they’ll be forgiving of its lackluster quality if the third one has a good trailer. Besides she is one of the most popular DCEU characters, and recasting Gal at this point would be pretty silly.
I agree (though her popularity has taken a hit like most others in the DCEU). But I do still hold some skepticism because would Gunn really keep any of the main DCEU characters? Seems like he's trying to avoid bringing any messiness or confusion into the new DCU.
One character I do hope continues on is Black Canary. She (and Black Mask) were the highlight of BOP for me and outside of Harley being in the movie, there was no obvious connection to the larger DCEU so her being included in the DCU should not present much of a problem.
1 hour ago, kayumanggi said:Nice. Hoping for better than expected numbers going forward. Will be interesting to see what effect it has on Barbie and Oppenheimer's numbers though. Seems like it may have had some impact on Tuesday's but I guess that'll become clearer starting tonight.
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19 minutes ago, Scubasteve716 said:
They didn’t have a 9 year drought just because they didn’t have the number one movie of the year. Precarious situation is basically due to back to back mergers. Something Disney hasn’t had to go through. Really yet to be determined where the new regime takes things
Not just mergers but their own incompetence. The demise of the DCEU (which was doomed from the start imo) is due to the latter. Give them props for Barbie but there's so much uncertainty surrounding just about everything else.
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I'm hoping TMNT can break out more than the numbers suggest. My nephews are pretty excited to see it this weekend. With excellent reviews and good wom, walkups should be good, maybe leading to good legs in the coming days/weeks.
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27 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
The last time a WB movie won the year was in 2014 with AMERICAN SNIPER. If BARBIE wins the year, that'll be a 9-year gap.
Imagine if this were Disney and they depended on one movie to save them from this kind of drought. The discourse would be very different. Lol Barbie has seemingly distracted some from WB being in a more precarious situation than perhaps any other studio, especially with the DC brand being so tainted.
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6 hours ago, TwoMisfits said:
My 14 local is dropping Barbie down to 2 screens/12 showings (from 20 showings and 4 screens) and cutting Dolby showings in 1/2, so this weekend, it's gonna hurt. Next weekend, with Gran Turismo moving off, should let Barbie keep most of its space given this weekend, so the spacing issue should relent. In interesting news, the PLF is split 4 ways with Barbie, Oppy, TMNT, and Meg 2.
Now, that said, Oppy is finally gaining showings - it had been stuck with 7, but will get 9 this weekend for 3 screens.
For the rest of the set...
TMNT - 2 screens
Meg 2 - 2 screens
Haunted Mansion - 1 screen
MI7 - 1 screen
SoF - 1 screen
Talk to Me - 1 screen
1st Slam Dunk - .5 screen
Foreign film - .5 screen
Indy is the only drop...everything else was already gone last week.
I was wondering how the new openers would affect Barbie/Oppenheimer. A sub 40s drop would have made sense but sounds like that may not be the case. Will be interesting to see how it goes. (Though I won't have the time to be here much this week or any this weekend, I know that saddens some of you. Lol)
1 hour ago, MovieMan89 said:Brie certainly hasn’t been given much to work with with the character so far, so I’m willing to give her another chance if the sequel is addressing this.
The trailers already make her look more interesting imo. (I didn't care much for trailer 2 but the first trailer I thought was great.) One of the reasons I think this was turned into a team movie, with Kamala/Monica as co-leads, was to make Carol more appealing/likable. She'll have "family drama" with Monica and Kamala as her number 1 fangirl. And to be clear, I never found Carol unlikable but since she'll likely be a big part of the next Avengers movies, I do think they want ensure that she's a fan favorite.
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33 minutes ago, Cheddar Please said:
Barbie weekends so far have been very similar to TDK. Its first Monday was also similar to TDK which dropped over 55% on its second Monday so a sub 50s drop would be something. Lol A good sign of just how good its legs are, certainly.
TDK, The Prestige, Interstellar are my favorite Nolan films, so if the next one can make me feel like any of those did, I would be happy.
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8 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:
Worldwide
Yeah. Lol Probably still needs at least 650 dom to have a shot. We'll see how the next week goes.
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9 minutes ago, vale9001 said:
the fact every single day for 10 days, not 1, has made more makes more possible it will than it won't.
Then it's not surprising you're negative about it but positive ones right now have more points than you.
Lol! Is it "negative" or being realistic? Like people who got excited for a bigger opening weekend, a bigger Monday, a bigger Thursday, all leading to some disappointment that it didn't get a 100M second weekend. Very weird how you interpreted my mild question as an attack. One would think some of you had personal investment in Barbie's BO numbers.
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Just reading through comments since I don't have much time to reply but I saw someone say Barbie will surpass TGM? Isn't that a little premature to say? Lol If it continues at its current pace during weekdays, it may have a shot but there's always the possibility that it starts to drop off and we see more "typical" numbers, coming in under some peoples expectations.
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Didn't see anyone post this but deadline still says 28 for Barbie and 13.5 for Oppy. Guess we'll see in the morning. (I probably won't be around though as the next week will be very busy for me.)
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11 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Marvels, Cap, and Thunderbolts all have the highest bomb potential of probably any MCU films up to this point. It’s insane to say the next Avengers is a lock for anything. For all we know, MCU could be like DCEU by that point.
I think that's going a bit too far. Lol If those movies are good/well received, they have the potential to be successful and turn a profit. But regardless, the MCU still has the main players (Deadpool, Spider-Man, Blade, X-Men, FF) waiting in the wings. Unless/until they are tainted with bad movies, I don't think the MCU is close to becoming like the DCEU.
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Avengers movies don't need to hit 2B. Its hilarious that that's now the standard because Marvel hit a peak in 2018-2019. If they're successful bringing the Fantastic Four and X-Men to the big screen, then an eventual X-Men/Avengers crossover event has the potential to reach 2B.
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2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
I am not questioning his talent. I am wondering about his pull outside franchise at this point. Fruitvale station was a niche indie movie. Creed was spin off from Rocky movies that was very well received and broke out big. And they were before BP and so it was before he was well known. its like Nolan with Memento/Insomnia. Even during Prestige his name did not mean that much(though I saw it on big screen as director of Batman Begins). It took TDK for his name to mean something. Coogler should have used the huge BO from BP to do something else before 2nd movie but I understand with Chadwick's shocking death and COVID, things did not go according to the plan. Longer you wait the impact will go down. Let us see how things go for his next movie unless its another MCU flick.
So this must mean you're also wondering about Greta's pull as well? Coogler has plenty of time to make all different kind of movies, being known as the director who's produced nothing but successful projects is not going to lose its impact any time soon. And he 's making other great connections outside of just directing. Criticizing him for not fitting in a movie in between two other movies (simply because Nolan did that lol) is incredibly nitpicky to say the least.
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2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
I agree with this. Peele is niche though domestically his name has value. Coogler should have some value. I hope he makes something else next.
That said Russo bros are trying different things after Endgame and they cannot even get a well reviewed movie out.
Are we going to act like Coogler didn't direct two acclaimed movies before Black Panther? Acting like he's just known for Marvel or hasn't done anything else is hilarious.
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27 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
It is not silly. He's developing Wakanda spin-offs and produced Iron Heart. he isn't just tied up with movies but with D+ shows. BP came out in 2018 and WF in 2022. That's 4 years between them. Eveb with covid situation he could have worked on something else in between. Nilan's TDK came out in 2008, Inception in 2010 and TDKR in 2012. So he had a huge movie in between sequels. Coogler didn't attempt even a small movie.
Sorry but this is even sillier. Coogler has produced like 4 or 5 projects in the last few years, including Judas and the Black Messiah and a couple of documentaries. He hasn't just been sitting around doing nothing or just focused on Marvel stuff. But also, you remember than Chadwick Boseman died in 2020 yes? He and Coogler were very close and just writing and directing WF must have been taken a lot for him. Expecting him to direct another movie or criticizing him for not doing so is wild.
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28 minutes ago, harry713 said:
Because Barbie's second weekend is more likely to perform like a typical non-debut weekend, where films see anywhere from a 20% - 50% increase on a Saturday in the late summer season. A 30% increase isn't asking all that much, especially since Fri was Barbie's first full day impacted by PLF loss, which would explain its softer increase.
I'm not saying 30% can't happen but right now, I would not assume that it will, as stronger weekdays always presented the possibility for softer increases on the weekend. So a 20% increase is good to start with and if it goes higher than that, cool.
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1 minute ago, ZattMurdock said:
What is making me intrigued at face value with info that I just heard now is that Greta Gerwig is one of the screenwriters for the new Snow White. I wonder if the marketing will lean in on that for it. I haven’t watched Barbie yet but I went from ‘not caring’ to ‘I gotta see it on movie theaters somehow’. I will have a busy round of films next weekend: Indy, TMNT, Oppenheimer and Barbie.
I will be surprised if Greta does not get a shoutout. Lol I guess that can be used as the first sign of the "Greta effect" albeit on a smaller level because being a writer doesn't create as much visibility or hype as a director.
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15 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:
It’s not nefarious. It’s just that the world is different than it was one century ago. Also you being an anime fan explains a lot, it’s just a different medium to anything else from the western world. There is a reason why most animes are virtually unadaptable and better left off alone.
My point is that this is stories for kids. You bet that there are Black kids loving to see themselves represented by Ariel; or Latina kids that will love to be seen represented by Snow White. In fact, I think it goes without saying that long before these adaptations were even a thing, there were black and Latino kids pretending to be mermaids, Disney princesses and etc.
It’s a lot like a lot of people used to say one decade ago about ‘why create a Black Spider-Man? Why Miles can’t be an original character with his own superhero name?’ No one is asking that stupid question anymore, isn’t it? Anyone can wear the mask. Anyone gets to be a princess, a mermaid, a Jedi knight, a Captain America or a Spider-Man. It’s about make believe for kids, after all.
Couldn't have said it better myself. 👏
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Weekend Thread | Estimates - Barbie $53M (hit a billion!), Meg2 $30M, Oppy $28.7, TMNT - $27.95M (5-day $43M), HauntedMansion $8.97M
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Barbie needs better drops, starting next week. Kinda wild to say because the drops have been nothing to complain about. But more 40-42% drops won't get it to 650 and certainly not anywhere close to TGM. TGM's fourth weekend was just insane. Not even a sub 30s drop would be enough for Barbie to keep pace.