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7 minutes ago, ringedmortality said:

 

More like a second Oscar win

I mean I don't disagree. Just saying he deserves a nom at the very least. 

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37 minutes ago, cannastop said:

People complaining about the score being loud make me wanna see the movie. I loved Ludwig Göransson's music for Turning Red so of course I'd like more of his stuff.

After listening to the Oppenheimer soundtrack, I will say Ludwig is more than deserving of a second Oscar nom (should have been nominated again for BP 2 as well imo). And I will always love the fact that it was Coogler and his Creed/BP movies who put Ludwig on Nolan and everyone else's radar. Learning that Nolan even attended the Creed premiere/afterparty at Coogler's request was too cool. Nolan has many great qualities as a filmmaker and his unpretentious nature is one of them. 

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14 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

Welcome to BOT. Hope you survive the experience. For your better enjoyment, please always listen to the voices saying to not overhype or underhype things. A lot of us have been saying it would land exactly somewhere around that is landing. Hyperbole is a thing here but only if you listen the most loud voices. A lot of us have been saying it’d land exactly where it’s landing: it’s still the biggest opening of the year for what it will likely biggest film of the year in the domestic market, at very least.

Barbie surpassing Mario domestically? I'm having a very difficult time seeing that. Can it even get to 500M? I'm not yet convinced of that either. 

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3 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

 

 

warner got confidence for the project after they made it and they believed has quality...yes...but your point is a Barbie project it's not risky by itself...which in my opinion is not true

 

and if you spend 150M with the budget you have to spend 100M on marketing you like how the movie is or not. I mean you can think it's bad but you never know, sometimes really bad movies succeed (especially cause marketing was good) 😄...if you spent 150M and you only spend 20M on marketing 9 times of 10 the movie will flop good or not. 

Right because Greta, Ryan, Margot, coupled with the Barbie brand and a host of rising young actors didn't provide them with enough confidence already? 

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33 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

 

please it was absolutely risky when you make a 150M + marketing budget movie (must be 50-100M when a movie has that budget) not a 50M cheap barbie movie. It's particulary risky when you make a barbie movie seems a drunk tim burton from the 80s.

 

And please not again "the actors are white" ....so? history of cinema has 1900000 bombs with white leads. 

Dune is famous too but it's not easy to make a successfull movie from that, Lynch knows it.

 

WB as always is the best when it's about taking different projects from what is around and make them the zeitgeist.

 

Kudos to them to be risky and for THIS Barbie movie. 

Uhh, the budget, including marketing, only further confirms that WB had confidence in the movie and didn't see it at as risky. Sorry, you'll never convince me that casting popular white actors in a well-known property is worth praising as risky. 

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11 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

Japan didn't embrace TLM...it's one of the worst performing disney live actions in the market. It just didn't completely bomb there is all.

Embraced it compared to its competition and vs. other markets. Didn't claim it was a big hit but 20M is good in my book, given all it was up against.  

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14 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Why is WB so slow with Barbie OS? I want to confirm the Kenomenon on the way to Barbillion. 

 

Oh please already the "Barbie is no risk" spin? Than why so many OUT in various bold clubs before it became apparent that the breakout was incoming? Try harder.

 

 

 

 

This doesn't mean it was risky. I certainly doubt WB saw it that way. 

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8 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Japan turning up for Disney these days is very rare, but who knows. 

Good to see it being one of the OS markets that embraced TLM. Will be interesting to see Elemental's numbers. 

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6 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

It’s just absolute madness to me. Hell, my mom knows who Margot Robbie is and she knows that for ages and not through me, woman is incredibly popular and had ‘bombs’ with what, two indies and a day and date film? Why aren’t we calling Idris Elba or Will Smith box office poison too while we are at it? It just doesn’t make sense to me and it’s just one of these stupid narratives that go in circles here.

 

In less than 3 months I read that two persons were "box office poison" here on BOT: Margot Robbie and  Hailee Stenfield. Stenfield, the woman that was the lead on the single decent Transformers film ever made and one of the co-stars of the Spider-Verse films. It just doesn’t make sense to me why always young women are the ones called box office poison.

Well to be honest, I don't think Will belongs in this discussion at all given that he gave us Bad Boys, Independence Day, Men in Black in the span of three years. I think he'd already proven himself to be a main draw even if he had some flops afterwards. Barbie is the first time Margot has been the main draw of a big blockbuster movie so I get why there is some skepticism around her, though I certainly wouldn't call her box office poison. 

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2 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

A film that was in development hell for years, Margot having a patchy box office history at best, female targeted movie in the blockbuster summer, over $100m budget, Barbie not having the best reputation for the past decade, countless failed IP film launches in recent years, toxicity online towards anything female driven etc etc etc.

 

It was a risk, this doesn’t happen often to female lead/targeted films.  

Margot propped up by the Barbie brand is not a risk, neither is female targeted movie in the blockbuster summer, given that we've already seen that they can succeed. And Barbie is still Barbie. Simply not seeing much risk there.

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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

Yeh that would be incredible for Barbie.

 

Can’t believe we’re talking $400m+. I honestly thought this was one of the riskiest films of the year. 

We all may have underestimated Barbie's box office potential but I don't see how it was particularly risky. A popular, attractive female lead who's visually perfect for the role, a legitimate star as the male lead, a director with two critically acclaimed movies under her belt and the advantage of the Barbie name. I'd say WB always saw it as a pretty safe film with potential to turn a profit. 

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23 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

Looks like TLM will need a serious push to reach $300 million DOM after all. Losing 1000 theaters this weekend and immense competition from Barbie absolutely crippled its remaining legs.

That makes me sad, frankly. I'm one of the people who enjoyed this particular remake more so than any of the other Disney remakes. Halle Bailey was inspired casting. She deserved better. 

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I see a drop between 55-60 for Barbie. I don't see it having a better drop than Spider-Verse but it could have a similar drop to TLM's. Wouldn't be surprised if Barbie had a harsher drop though because it does feel like one of those movies where some people would rush to see once, if only out of curiosity. 

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Well Deadline wasn't too far off with its Barbie numbers. Even with a good Sunday hold, 160M seems a bit out of reach. 

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5 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

 

Sorry the wording of this tweet is very funny to me. "If you exclude these movies and these movies and also these movies, Barbie is number 1." Ok? Anyway, Black Panther's numbers still remain the most impressive to me. A movie starring a lesser known Black superhero (featuring a majority Black cast) making that much money was just insane. Yeah it's the MCU but I can recall when the general consensus was that it would be a success if it grossed 700M total and turns out that was just its domestic total.   

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Andrea Riseborough's campaign was something but it wasn't grassroots. 

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49 minutes ago, PatrickvD said:

Is Margot Robbie now a Box Office draw?

Probably not. Barbie certainly changes the narrative for her after being in multiple flops. But I think it's quite telling that Gosling "stole the show" for many, so much so that I'm now seeing backlash on social media from people saying he's getting too much focus and attention. He was always the only legitimate star in the movie imo so  all the attention and talk of Oscar buzz is not at all surprising to me. 

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53 minutes ago, upriser7 said:

Just an insane start overseas for Barbie. Overseas OW might be close to $190M at this rate

 

 

This is super impressive obviously but the fact that it still wouldn't be the biggest global opening of the year is kinda wild. Granted, I wasn't super into Mario or its fandom but the hype didn't seem to be as big to me as Barbie.

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Of course Barbie gets an A Cinemascore. Oppenheimer's CS is more surprising to me. Thought it would get an A- or B+. Very impressive numbers all around for this one. 

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1 hour ago, 21C said:

Broccolis are gonna be next-level stupid if they don't land him for Bond after this.

If he does Bond, it will be very, very interesting to see who's cast as Bond, particularly given the push recently to cast a non-white Bond. A Nolan-directed Bond movie with a Black actor as Bond, for instance, would probably result in less pushback than most racebent castings. (The hype around Nolan directing would just cancel a lot of that out, I think.) That said, I'd say the odds of Bond remaining white are pretty high. 

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3 minutes ago, DisposedData said:

Between this and Mario it really does feel like the beginning of a new era. It just feel like super hero films are no longer king of the hill.

Beginning of a new era? Not exactly. Those movies are just the latest in a line of movies that leaned heavily on name recognition and nostalgia. Take a look at all the non superhero films that have topped the BO in recent years and you'll see the majority fall into this category. I know some are eager for a "new era" but what we're seeing now is just more of the same era... with a Nolan or a Peele occasionally crashing the nostalgia/superhero party. 

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7 minutes ago, upriser7 said:

There is no sync between 70M Friday and 150M weekend lol...feel like they are intentionally lowballing the weekend number

I mean it's not impossible. If that Friday number holds I would say 160..maybe 165M. 170M still seems like the most realistic high. 

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21 minutes ago, Warmaster506 said:

Big wins for WB/Universal. Disney is no question pissed 

Big win for WB only to be followed by a huge L with their next DC film. That's still a huge problem for them. 

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2 minutes ago, Blankments said:

hmm makes u think

"Original films" lol. I'm all for hyping these movies but very confused why some keep insisting this is the most excited audiences have been about going to the movies when billion dollar movies are still happening. JWD, Top Gun, Mario, NWH, Avatar, even spider-verse are all less than two years old and were already proof that audiences are excited about going to the movies. No need to oversell.  

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1 minute ago, Day and Date The Best said:

Ghey did not even perform prepandemic for how overly hyped those movies were. Guardians should have been a billion, not less than Vol. 2

Huh? Guardians 3 was not hyped enough for a billion. I was surprised that it wasn't on par with Guardians 2 but the numbers were hardly disappointing, regardless.