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4 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
Well this is a curious wrinkle if it's true, but they haven't really done anything to indicate Kang Dynasty still isn't the plan.
Whats the sites reliability?
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Other than visuals and great soundtrack ,some neat acting found S1 of Loki mediocre and lazily written for the most part and didn't like how Loki story was handled.
But S2 was fantastic and even made parts of S1 better. Still wasn't perfect . Kang was underwhelming as usual .
Overall Loki had way more urgency, time aspects were way better and less confusing and contradictory. and boy were they some mind-blowing visuals and effects and they were not there just dazzle the audience and they meshed well with the story and characters.
Surprisingly dark and episode 4 left me speechless .
All the characters were strong and delivered strong performances.Thank God they reduced the whole romantic subplot btn Loki and slyvie that felt so unearned and dragged in S1.
The ending was excellent. Morbius scene at the end just got to me.
Best season of MCU TV.
Loki S2
Ms marvel
Moon knight
Wandavision
Hawkeye
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This is literally making less than flash. Any " didn't promote this" excuse is render it kind of mute.
GA didn't care for the movie and reviews didn't prove them otherwise.
FNAF is going to beat WW, Domestic,OS and OW . No promotion.
Marvels is an MCU title that alone should be enough to attract decent enough audience even without promotion .
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Watched this yesterday and wanted to gather my thoughts.
Hmmm it wasn't a disaster ,infact chunks of carol,Monica and Kamala Khan were pretty fun and yeah carol is way better in this . Kamala continues to be fantastic and she is the most grounded .
But the plot sorrounding the three leads is complete nonsensical ,absurd and just honestly bonkers. It was TLT levels of bad.
Villian was discount Ronan. Her motivations made sense but it's not really gone into and gets swallowed up by the next ridiculous moments in the plot.
Editing was awful. My head hurt at times.
Continue to turn nick fury into a joke and quip generator. He use to be such a cool character.
End scene with Kamala was cringe and just dropped in for future setup .
Post credit scene Was nice
Due to the three leads chemistry . It was better than Quantumania ,eternals and TLT.
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35 minutes ago, James said:
Mockingjay Part 2 made 660m on a 160m budget (+55m in advertising). That’s 4x it’s budget. Or 3x if you include advertising.
Not only was it not a flop, but it made Lionsgate a ton of money from theatres alone.
Was it a disappointment compared to previous Hunger Games movies? Yes. But to compare it with mega bombs like The Marvels is utterly ridiculous. They don’t belong in the same conversation and neither does MJ2 belong in the same conversation with Divergent, which was indeed a flop/bomb.
Marvel spends way more on their projects nowadays and they keep flopping/bombing one after another. That’s the problem.
Well that's BOT.
Mocking jay 2 was quite profitable. Made 4x it's budget.
Had debates on breakeven points on all summer .
There is theatrical revenue and ancillary revenue.
They are domestic ratio ,overseas minus china ratio, china ratio of what revenue comes back to studios (50-55/40%/25% ) respectively.
Deadline and major trades use 2-2.5*. production budget I've seen multi as high 2.7* production budget for Very OS heavy films with a large china gross.
Assumption is ancillaries will cover marketing budget in long run .
2-2.5* rule is not perfect it's the best we have got.
MI7 was bailed out 70m of it's budget so think will breakeven . Otherwise it was like 50 -100M+ money loser for paramount.
So don't think we can put in the same league as Indy,flash,marvels,haunted mansion.
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3 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Maybe at least 80M, Wed - Sun.
25m is wed to Fri. The article says 25m "through Friday" so it's like 60m.
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27 minutes ago, Hatebox said:
Zodiac is fincher’s best movie. Took me about 3 watches to come to that conclusion though.
Maybe that's it.. Needs more rewatches because it . Because that film has some banger scenes that go toe to toe with some of his best work. That interrogation scene is just quite something.
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It's slowly paced and you really feel the time. Something interesting happens then following chunks you get into the procedural elements and yeah acting is good but everything kind of starts to drag.
It's a very methodical film.
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22 minutes ago, YM! said:
That’s kind of high for Garfield don’t you think?
Expect to do really well with kids.
Chris Pratt factor.
Lego movie type of box-office for this. Way more Dom heavy than OS.
Yeah it's bold but just got a good feeling about this.
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Zodiac was 7 for me . Fight club is an all timer and my favorite fincher film.
Of what I've watched
Fight club
Seven
Curious case of Benjamin button
Gone girl
Girl with a dragon tattoo
Zodiac.
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Updated domestic
IO2 - 130m/485m.
Deadpool 3 - 165m/420m.
DM4. -120m/375m
Joker. - 135m/375m
Passion of Christ 2 - 80m/300m
Wicked part 1. -75m/300m
Gladiator 2. -85m/275m
Garfield. - 60m/260m
Mufasa. -85m/250m
Dune 2. -75m/235m
KP4. -65m/225m
GVK. - 80m/225m
KOTPOFP. - 70m/205m
If Zootopia 2 is to release in 2024 - 450m.
2024 should be a good bounce back year for animation atleast.
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Loki S2 is one of the best things marvel has done . Buts that's a streaming show.
MCU has two major bombs this year and saying is not in danger due to Loki success is a tad bit ridiculous.
Losing money on 2 major tentpoles in quick succession is just plain bad and thinking otherwise would be terrible business sence.
I cant count how many businesses or projects I've seen fall with " it's fine atleast this is part is doing well" mentality when shit is starting to get wrong.
No decline begins with sharp fall , it starts with complacency and small concessions.
Marvels box office is a culmination of all the small things and bad decisions .that have been accumulating and now we here seeing the unthinkable .
Hyperbole is ridiculous at points here but MCU is definitely in a rough spot .
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Where will OS opening weekend land .
Sub 60m??
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4 hours ago, John Marston said:
the first Avengers is a banger. The people who go “it hasn’t aged well” are talking bullshit. Aged well compared to what?
does it have some questionable action scenes that didn't age well . Yes sure
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Avengers has the best screenplay in the MCU. Some of the best dialogue in the MCU to this day . Civil war close second.
May not be my favorite but top 5 MCU movie for me.
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14 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:
Fun fact: even's Illumination's 2019 underperformer (Pets 2) which dropped a massive 60%+ from the first movie still made $118M in profits.
It had a small. Original made 368m domestically. Expected it to drop but not that hard.
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Joker 2 thinking minions 2 vs mimoins 1 situation.
Bigger domestically and make less Overseas. Feel the musical aspect will sell way better domestically than OS.
Expect like big 120-130M+ OW .
350M+/900M+
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Had this at 300m+ originally due to Pixars woes. But teaser is great and buzz really strong.
Finding Dory is where I would put it. Another heavy nostalgia sequel.
Also think DM4 is going to jump too Domestically . Illumination post covid has really revived after a slump in 2019. Thought minions 2 was primed for those big dropoffs but it ended up grossing more domestically and a healthy WW total.
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Deadpool is going to do well. Some predictions are just set some up for disappointment.
1.3b ? Expecting 600m domestic or something?
No china.
R rated
It's not going to be a joker OS I. That movie attracted non - typical CBM audience.
Best I see is 1.1b .
This will open to like 150m OW and you will see weird meltdowns .
Think OS total will not be far off from days of future past /MOM.
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4 minutes ago, Mango said:
All this doom and gloom is going to look real funny when Deadpool 3 does $400m next summer and everyone proclaims “Marvel is back!”
Most of us saw a bomb coming miles away. It’s been building over the mixed reception of phase 4 (5 now?) and it is just kind of culminating here. It’s a bit jarring and ironic that the first Captain Marvel was the culmination of peak MCU interest/hype/goodwill, and it just so happens the sequel is the culmination of all of that going away.
I’d say it’s time for Marvel to take a step back and reevaluate their formula, but it seems they might be doing that, with the major shake up to the Disney Plus series and the schedule reshuffling. Time will tell I guess.
Then marvel is "back" will look funny again with cap 4 and thunder bolts flopping the following year.
Don't really consider Deadpool a litmus test IMO. Character is popular,the premise is strong . Expect it to top the previous 2 entries at the least.
Real litmus test is 2025 . Can they get the audience to turn up for their new characters and stories .
Deadpool flopping is unthinkable for me . If it somehow does. Then I just don't know.
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Been catching up on Loki S2 . Found S1 mediocre but really enjoying this season . Just finished episode 4 ,holy fuck that ending.chefs kiss.
Will probably watch marvels Sunday or Monday.
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10 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said:
Kathleen Kennedey
Internet would implode on itself. Just can't imagine the PR nightmare .
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Fire fiege and replace him with who? . It's clear his spread thin since his promotion. It's too early . Should go back to basics. " Characters first, world second" .
It's clear they wanted bigger,better ,more characters and didn't understand the logistics required and wanted content out faster.
Hired to many novice writers .even some of those Ricky and Morty writers just wrote a few episodes and couldn't handle jumping to 200m+ dollar projects.
Overall feels like no cohesion along channels .
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3 minutes ago, Maggie said:
Why do people like to see things fail after they built them up? The glee at The Marvels flopping is extreme
Sure the hate around this can get wild I admit.
But yeah marvel has been dropping the ball. 2023 has been the year audiences said enough.
So this setback should hopefully make some evaluations .
And we'll the movie ain't exactly good and is not being well recieved . So why cheer or feel bad for the mediocre product.
Alot of toxicity is around this movie and it's not good but at the end of the marvels didn't cut it for the audience.
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Verified Audience is at 86% .Alot of higher than I expected. For what the postrak is .
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Thread title is a little too much IMO. If anyone does stupid shit ,just threadban them. Don't need to make it so on the nose.
It will just create a more hostile environment to an already charged thread.
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Weekdays Thread | #THU - The Marvels $1.2M, Priscilla $418K, Freddys $355K, KotFM $347K, Holdovers $263K
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Sunday drop was already terrible to begin with .
Monday drop % is below WF if that estimate holds.
Playing like WF dropwise will get this to around 14mish (-69% )
Wednesday will be the deciding number.
But definitely think this is dropping more than 62% of WF and eternals.