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9 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:
Based on sales so far, probably not. It'll likely increase from the last MHA movie slightly, but I'm not expecting more than 7-8M. It might open higher than Last Night in Soho based on current tracking though.
I...I don't know how I feel about that. It's good, and not good. It probably says more about Soho than MHA.
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8 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
I feel like this would've bombed even without the merger and 'Rona. It has absolutely no hook whatsoever. No ambitious premise, no big brand to serve as an easy entry point, no big stars... Just nothing. It looks like one of the most sterile and generic movies ever made.
@AJG does raise a good point. One of the founders is a Murdoch, and I feel like that's the sole reason their studio even got off the ground in the first place. I wonder how far that gets them in the years ahead, because Ron is basically a tax writeoff at this point.
Yeah but that being said, I would like to know just for kicks how this would have done in a prime release spot. Let's say there was no Encanto and this got November 24, or the old Shrek spot in mid May. I don't know, I feel like this had a little more potential, albeit not THAT much.
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4 hours ago, von Kenni said:
If you're planning to watch Dune, please read this.
I re-read the book just before I went to watch Dune in theaters. Here's some advice on it:
1. Yes, this is something you don't want to miss in theaters. It can be a cinematic experience that goes to the bone. Something that I haven't experienced since LOTR. The enormity of it all, the new world it opens up, the beauty, and the score...
2. Why "can be"? Like with all experiences, you need to be ready for it. Reading the book beforehand is okay but you need to leave it at the door when you enter the cinema. Especially this movie needs that you calm your mind before seeing it. Have a good night sleep beforehand, meditate, drink a beer or do whatever it takes to tame your monkey mind before you enter the showing. Don't compare it to the book during the experience, just sit there, don't think, let it sink in. I caught myself comparing it to the book many times but at the end I was able to forget it and just relax. I can tell that it is authentic, true to the book, and it opened up the world that I imagined when I read Dune the first time 20 some years ago, but please, make yourself open for it, just take it in. Time for analyzing is afterwards.
If you do these things, there's a good chance that you experience something wonderful and precious. I'm going back to see it again and this time follow better my own advice. At its best it is a dream like world where you can spend countless of hours and you wished that you could explore it freely looking behind the corners, walking the corridors, flying the ornithopters... When Villeneuve said that it is a love letter to cinema, it isn't an empty cliché but an apt description. The love of making huge detailed sets, costumes, and using as little cgi as possible, and shooting in real desert locations shows in the performances of the actors and the realness of it all.
Go see it. Prime yourself ready for it and you just might experience something wonderful.
This sounds wonderful!
This also is why I tend to read books AFTER I see films based on them. I don't want any sort of expectations going in. The book can only enrich the film experience but the other way around can be irritating.
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30 minutes ago, Eric Atreides said:
Seeing people here championing an abusive, anti-Semitic fuckwad getting work, to the point they're mocking folks who have a soul and don't want an abusive, anti-Semitic fuckwad getting work is honest to God one of the most depressing things I've seen in this forum in a long, long time.
I just don't believe everything I read.
Not only that, but there are equally as many fuckwads across the political spectrum. We should stop cancelling people and just let the market do the talking.
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24 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:
Did the same drop for previous Halloween. Its actually a bit better than I expected.
That's good!
Hope you guys don't mind all the questions. I'm getting the hang of this....
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2 hours ago, famicommander said:
Broncos - need to fire their entire coaching staff yesterday
Rockies - will never be a serious contender until the pigfarming Monforts sell the team
Nuggets - legitimate title contender, provided they get a healthy Jamal Murray back
Avalanche - current betting favorites to win the Stanley Cup
Mammoth (NLL) - figure to be a playoff team again
Rapids - Apparently really good, but I don't care since I hate soccer
Unsurprisingly, all four playoff caliber teams in town are owned by the Kroenkes (who also own the LA Rams, Arsenal, and formerly the AFL's Colorado Crush). Kroenke was a billionaire on his own and then he married a Walmart heiress, so he has unlimited funds and it helps.
OT, but the Avalanche are a hockey fan's dream team. What a great, fun team!
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Is a 71% Monday drop more or less what's expected for HK?
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5 minutes ago, Val357 said:
I'm morbidly curious about just how steep Halloween Kills can drop haha. I'm going to be comparing it closely to Friday the 13th (2009) this week. Friday the 13th had a similar pattern on OW to Halloween Kills, though all around slightly worse. I guess if there's a big difference it's on Sunday, where F13 dropped worse (-51.1% compared to -46.6% for HK). Not only is the Sunday drop worse but compounding that is F13 had the benefit of a holiday Monday and STILL dropped over 50% on Sunday. Ouch. F13 then proceeded to drop 56.8% on Presidents' Day Monday when holiday Mondays are usually softer than that, whereas I suspect HK's Monday drop yesterday might reflect more or less a typical Monday drop (not as opposed to a holiday Monday drop - that's obvious - but as opposed to a bad drop for a movie like this on a typical Monday).
Probably an unfair comparison though, as F13 is the crown jewel of all 2nd weekend drops for a major release.
My post from the weekend thread. Figured I'd move it here.
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I'm morbidly curious about just how steep Halloween Kills can drop haha. I'm going to be comparing it closely to Friday the 13th (2009) this week. Friday the 13th had a similar pattern on OW to Halloween Kills, though all around slightly worse. I guess if there's a big difference it's on Sunday, where F13 dropped worse (-51.1% compared to -46.6% for HK). Not only is the Sunday drop worse but compounding that is F13 had the benefit of a holiday Monday and STILL dropped over 50% on Sunday. Ouch. F13 then proceeded to drop 56.8% on Presidents' Day Monday when holiday Mondays are usually softer than that, whereas I suspect HK's Monday drop yesterday might reflect more or less a typical Monday drop (not as opposed to a holiday Monday drop - that's obvious - but as opposed to a bad drop for a movie like this on a typical Monday).
Probably an unfair comparison though, as F13 is the crown jewel of all 2nd weekend drops for a major release.
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Do you guys think this could be another Demon Slayer or Dragonball Broly? It's obviously going nowhere after its first week but I'm wondering if that first week will be strong.
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The only reason I've read any reactions is because they're posted in this thread (and even then I've glossed over most of them).I don't know why we as fans give these things second thoughts. Who cares what Person X has to say about a movie? Maybe it's just me. I don't give them nearly that big a platform. They're background noise.
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6 hours ago, Ronin46 said:
Here is a selection of SOME of your posting about Dune. Sorry I dont know how to multi quote.
Time for Dune to join the pile of would-be fantasy film series that never got a proper chance. A shame, really. We're probably going to lose Daddy Denis to the Netflix machine too at this rate.
Dune is going to be Alita all over again and you know it. All the better for the streamers who are no doubt rubbing their hands together right now, preparing for the bidding war that will ensue once Legendary abandons the IP. See you all in another decade when the inevitable Netflix adaptation gets buried under Squid Game 10: Splatoon'
Part Two simply won't get made unless hell freezes over and this movie is a big hit in the States. Alita also did decently internationally, but it bombed in the US, so no sequel for you! Believe me, I would love to be proven wrong. But do you really think the GA will want to go out of their way to see a seemingly slow-burn, artsy movie based on a book they haven't read in a theater? They'll simply either skip it, or watch it from the comfort of their homes after seeing the word of.
Dune's an unknown property, so the only folks who will see this on the big screen are the die-hard film nerds and book fans. Everyone else will be staying at home and watching this on HBO Max, since it's not a big IP like Marvel or Fast & Furious and is therefore not worth the hassle
This movie's pretty much dead on arrival in the US thanks to HBO Max. Dune is neither a family movie nor a popular IP, so most Americans will just stream it. Not worth the risk for them.
It better do gangbusters, because the box office is going to see a sharp dropoff once it hits HBO Max. Let's see if a month is enough.
This would've bombed even in normal conditions. It's just too artsy and slow-burn for general audiences to enjoy. I'm frankly shocked Warner and Legendary actually gave Denis such a big budget, especially considering it's just the first half of the book. Anyone who thinks we're getting Part 2 is hopelessly naive. See you in 2058 when Netflix decides to take a crack at it.
This is going to make John Carter look like Endgame. I want this movie to succeed but it just seems too artsy and unconventional for general audiences like The Suicide Squad, which bombed. HBO Max will also ensure it has a big drop. I'm not even sure if a $50M domestic total is possible at this point.
Any chances of this doing well are dead in the water. This is certainly going to be one of the biggest flops of all time. Worse than John Carter.
Yikes....
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt. — Abraham Lincoln
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6 hours ago, CJ Chapek said:
People seem to have mostly moved on. We have 87% of our total population vaxxed. The number of new daily cases is low. Restaurants, bars, discos, are back to the old numbers. Theaters don't seem to be getting the same kind of recovery. The habits changed and I think people will just see movies at home and do other activities when outside.
Well Godspeed, theatres in Portugal. That's truly unfortunate.
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6 hours ago, Let There Be Legion said:
I don’t think I’ve said at least 6. I would say at least 4.5, with 6 being nice and -8 being where I start to actually be concerned about oversaturation kind of stuff.
One thing that I think is easy to overlook is how many active subfranchises there are now. Back in phase 1 and 2 you could put out like 2 movies/yr, and a sequel for a certain character every 2 or 3 years, and because you only had like 3 subfranchises the math worked out totally chill for a mix of sequels and new entries.
Now in terms of active subfranchises we are about to have:
Thor (first solo 4quel, who knows if we get 5+)
Cap (a new trilogy?)
Avengers
Ant-Man (4+ possible)
DS
Spidey (4+ possible)
BP
CM
BW (assuming some Pughquels)
Shang-ChiEternals
Fantastic4
Blade
Deadpool (4+ possible)
Count ‘em. 14. That means if you want to keep things fresh by introducing new ones (and I think a lot of the “marvel is putting out too many movies” people would complain vociferously if they moved to a literal “only sequels” model) going at a pace of just 3.5 a year leaves you waiting 6 years for Shang-Chi 2. 6 years for Eternals 2. Mahershala Ali comes in for blade 2 in like 2030 and blade 3 in 2036 or some shit.
There is a cold mathematical truth here that goes generally unconsidered imo. The choice is between 4.5+ per year and being glacially slow to give Simu Liu, Wakanda, and other beloved breakouts another turn to star (they can appear in other properties faster of course but that’s not really the same thing).
You know, I was thinking about this awhile ago but it didn't really click (ie. as a problem to which the fix would be more movies per year). I was thinking about how long sequels are taking because of the amount of other films that are occupying so many release date slots. It really is a very real factor and not about "gimme more Marvel movies!!!". It's not a problem per se, it's just a new reality that Marvel Studios has presented itself with having built this unprecedented, rapidly growing film universe and narrative. They wanted to go down this road, but now they have to keep up with it.
As far as fatigue and the market, I think the market can handle it because Marvel has transcended all the traditional box office rules. We're dealing with a whole different product than normal movies now. George Lucas would talk about Saturday serials like Flash Gordon being one of his inspirations for Star Wars. I think this is becoming more like that. People will go to the theatres regularly to tune in to the latest chapter of the Marvel universe like they would turn on their favourite TV program every week, or pick up the latest comic issue every month.
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32 minutes ago, Lion Roar said:
Oh Legion is definitely not trolling about this. He's said repeatedly he wants at least 6 MCU movies a year. I personally think more than 4 is overkill even to me as a hardcore fan, but Legion is on another level of dedication.
Ok then he's being refreshingly honest. Genuineness is in short supply nowadays.
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I'm loving what is either @Let There Be Legion's refreshing honesty or trolling haha!
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Got a copy of the first book on hold and picking it up tomorrow. Looking forward to it! Going to read it AFTER seeing the movie though. Same thing I did with IT. Reading the book and then seeing the movie, you run the risk of the movie being a major letdown. The other way around? The book can only enrich the movie experience.
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4 hours ago, CJ Chapek said:
This opened here last weekend. It flopped like literally every movie that opens here. We have accepted streaming as king. It is only a matter of time all TCs go under here with the atrocious numbers we have seen.
This is unbelievably sad. What's the attitude towards Covid in Portugal? Are people moving on with their lives? I ask because if Portugal is the more fearful type of Covid - or should I say reluctant to move forward with normal life - maybe it's not all due to accepting streaming as king.
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If the fall from Halloween 2018's domestic total is the same as the fall from the OW, Halloween Kills would end up with roughly $103 million.
Unfortunately I don't see this passing $100M. The legs are going to be even worse than the first (unsurprisingly I know).
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2 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
My youngest has been pitching the movie all month - funny enough, my other son liked the 1st trailer, but was turned off by the 2nd, but he's very excited to see a movie before anyone else so he can be "in the know", so this has made him excited, too:)...
I personally have loved the trailer (but I've loved most fun, light, funny, and nonsequel lately - I was also a huge fan of the Free Guy trailers, and they did pay off), even if I think the release is doomed by its date...but who knows - they have to get people in, so maybe this starts the word of mouth train going (I know my sons tell all their friends on Fortnite and Roblox every time they see a movie)...maybe the November family movies don't crush its legs (which it's gonna need with the way the release weekend is developing)...
That's the spirit! Hopefully it finds its legs somehow. We've seen big IP's make a comeback at the box office. Now it's time for the family animated films to make their comeback.
I liked the look of the trailer too, however if it's a pass on my kids' part then I guess it's a pass.
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22 minutes ago, ViewerAnon said:
If you might indulge me a moment to pop on my tinfoil hat, part of me wonders if Universal played with the numbers a bit to bring HALLOWEEN KILLS in just a hair under $50M. Doesn’t their deal with theaters allow them to sell sub-$50M OW grossers on VOD platforms after just 17 days?
Getting KILLS out there on November 1st has to look mighty tempting to them.
Wouldn't surprise me. Sundays are rarely OVERestimated. Actual number for Sunday is down considerably from the number we saw yesterday.
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6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
Dang, Cinemark is running free screenings tomorrow...and I managed to snag tickets...
Now, to decide if I'm gonna let my boys skip their (paid) hip hop class for the free movie...
PS - This was a VERY last minute screening, b/c it went up at 4pm today...thankfully, Cinemark reserves seats (thank you for a reasonable screening policy - AMC and Regal, you could learn from this), so I don't have to worry about skipping class and missing the movie, too...
I'll be interested to know how you and your boys liked it! I've mentioned it to my youngest and he doesn't seem interested.... Looks like we're waiting for Encanto.
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This wasn't even featured in BO Pro's long range forecast:
https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-marvel-studios-eternals/
I take it that means this is releasing limited (though BO Pro did include their forecast for The French Dispatch in 50 theatres on Oct. 22).
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As a massive tennis fan and Williams sister fan (well, Williams FAMILY fan), this movie is dear to my heart already, even without having seen it. Can't wait! Their whole story is amazing!
Eternals | Marvel Studios | Nov 5 2021 | Magnum-Opus by Oscar winner Chloe Zhao - Marvel's first rotten movie | Dips into the 40s on RT, B CinemaScore
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One thing I do know is that Marvel is developing a crack in their armour and that is they're hiring baaad writers. The writing on the shows and some of the latest films is one of the weaknesses. The quality is dropping but as I've said before, it doesn't really matter because people - including myself - have become so invested in the narrative. These films are hardly judged on their artistic merit anymore and almost solely on their place in the overall Marvel narrative.
All that to say, I'm not surprised in the least at the script critiques.