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    The Batman | March 4, 2022 | Warner Bros. | Certified Fresh on RT | 7th Most Profitable Movie of 2023

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    4 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

    The grain replication in some of these images is insanely good. Fraiser seems to have completely mastered it at this point. Also seems like maybe his best looking film since Killing Me Softly. Didn't expect to be excited by anything shown here (only thing would've been an Aquaman 2 trailer), but I guess put me somewhere on the hype train for this.

    Love his work on Rogue One too!

    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    18 minutes ago, excel1 said:

     

    All of those opened at the lower end of expectations. WOM and reviews hadn't kicked in yet. 

    Really? Huh. Can't say I followed any of those close enough to know what their potential was compared to what they actually made at the box office. So even the Twilight and Hunger Games movies could have done more on a different date??

    The Batman | March 4, 2022 | Warner Bros. | Certified Fresh on RT | 7th Most Profitable Movie of 2023

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    Random thought: I think what a lot of people like about Batman being so dark is the darkness finally gives a sense of stakes. The MCU is awesome, and sometimes downright addictive, but I don't feel any sense of weight or stakes outside maybe Infinity War and Endgame. 

     

    But you watch something like Joker, these Batman trailers, or anything Gotham related really, and you feel like the problems there are REAL. It feels more real and weighty than a big intergalactic baddie or a super robot like Ultron. I don't know if anyone follows but I figured I'd give my 2 cents on the subject. It's not like we're all a bunch of manic-depressives who love doom and gloom. It's just nice to watch a superhero movie where you feel the weight of the hero's task.

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    Halloween Kills | October 15, 2021 | Uni/Blumhouse | Releases day-and-date in theaters and Peacock | 35% on RT

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    11 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

     

    It could do. 355 and some untitled 20th Century Studios is planned (I have no idea what movie that is). Spidey is Dec 15. Kingsman, Matrix, Sing 2 is Dec 22 (holy smokes thats crowded).

     

    Jan 14 where scream is now has the Guy Ritchie movie, Deep Water, Man from Toronto and Sesame Street so pretty crowded on that weekend.

     

    After that its smaller releases in Licorice, Cyrano, Macbeth etc. Morbius is listed at Jan 28 but god knows about that. If its actually finished and ready to go and is bad (a given) they should still release it and hope for Venom crossover hype with some misleading marketing.

     

    I guess it comes down to leaving it where it is and opening with a bunch of decent openers and staying away from the nuclear blast from Spidey/Matrix dying down. I would move it up the week to Jan 7 if I was making the decision. 

    Yeah, busy December huh? Sort or reminds me of December 2016 but even bigger!

     

    Rogue One on December 16.

     

    Sing, Passengers and Assassins Creed the following Wednesday. Fences and La La Land expanding on Sunday Christmas Day.

    The Batman | March 4, 2022 | Warner Bros. | Certified Fresh on RT | 7th Most Profitable Movie of 2023

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    1 minute ago, exomassey said:

    After the success of Joker, I always felt this movie could blow up. Batman and his world just has a massive fan base.

     

     

    Yep, especially when they get the tone right. We got the cheesy, cartoony angle of Batman. We got Chris Nolan's version. With Joker we saw the box office potential of a very raw, borderline adult comic-like world of Gotham. I think audiences might be really ready for that.

    The Batman | March 4, 2022 | Warner Bros. | Certified Fresh on RT | 7th Most Profitable Movie of 2023

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    1 minute ago, marveldcfox said:

    For the first time ever, I am genuinely interested in watching a Batman movie in the theater. The Chris Nolan films are overrated.

    I find the Chris Nolan trilogy is really, really good in and of itself. They were Christopher Nolan movies with Batman in them. But as Batman movies we may still be looking for THE definitive big screen adaptation. The Matt Reeves films (plural because I'm 99.99999% sure we'll be seeing more) could be it. Like ripping the comics off the page.

    Halloween Kills | October 15, 2021 | Uni/Blumhouse | Releases day-and-date in theaters and Peacock | 35% on RT

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    14 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

    So another horror sequel/reboot/prequel/reimaging with mediocre reviews has overperformed expectations.

     

    Down on previous versions but much higher than expectations at the time of release.

     

    Escape Room 2  tick

    Dont Breathe 2 tick

    Forever Purge tick

    Candyman tick

    Halloween kills tick

     

    All had good legs. Halloween wont have the 3 times legs that Purge had but is 10 to 15 million over expectations for OW.

     

    People want to see horror in the cinema. If its a sequel to a well known franchise all the better. if reviews are mediocre then it wont hurt BO much at all.

     

    Malignant is the 1 horror that did not perform up to expectations. Original story so no IP and HBO Max. Hard to say what HBO Max did to it but cant help but think its was pretty significant.

     

    So we have an incoming Scream which will likely continue the pattern. Studios must be all over trying to entangle other horror franchises. Friday the 13th jumped through 1 hoop but still a few more to go before that can be made.

    Do you think Scream will move to January 7? The first weekend of January has been kind to horror films in the recent past to kick off the year. Or will it stay on Martin Luther King Jr. Day weekend?

    The Batman | March 4, 2022 | Warner Bros. | Certified Fresh on RT | 7th Most Profitable Movie of 2023

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    1 minute ago, Valonqar said:

    LOL people who think NWH is going to get worse reviews than The Batman. Critics favor Marvel. NWH is poised to get "best MCU movie evah" reviews for having 3 Spidermen in it. Just watch. Also, remember that number of critics tried to sink Joker by screaming that it would instigate mass shootings and calling it an incel movie. So yeah, keep betting on the Bats against Spidey. I can't wait to collect my money. 

    Yeah that was embarrassing by the media leading up to Joker. They were so desperately trying to create something potentially horrible out of nothing. I remember reading about guys who rented out whole theatres for themselves and some friends because they wanted to feel safe from incels. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

    Spencer | November 5, 2021 | NEON | Kristen Stewart is Princess Diana

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    31 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

     

    Disregard what I said from the Numbers website.

     

    Just written article from the Wrap

     

    This year, things are different. Kenneth Branagh’s acclaimed “Belfast” became an immediate frontrunner as the winner of the 2021 Toronto International Film Festival’s often-predictive Audience Award. In the past, a platform release for the sensitive black-and-white period film would certainly follow. This year, Focus is expected to open in at least 500 theaters on November 12. Neon’s “Spencer,” starring Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana, is expected to open in about 1,500 theaters November 5 per exhibition sources.

     

     

    https://www.indiewire.com/2021/10/belfast-spencer-oscar-contenders-open-big-vod-1234671418/

     

     

     

    Hmm...opening wide against Eternals. Interesting.

    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    1 minute ago, excel1 said:

     

    the week before thanksgiving is a kiss-of-death release date for huge films. 

    ??? Really? There's a huge successful history of tentpoles opening the week before Thanksgiving.

     

    November 16, 2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

    November 15, 2002 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

    November 18, 2005 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

    November 21, 2008 Twilight

    November 20, 2009 The Twilight Saga: New Moon

    November 19, 2010 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1

    November 18, 2011 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1

    November 16, 2012 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2

    November 22, 2013 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire

    November 21, 2014 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1

    November 20, 2015 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2

    November 18, 2016 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

    November 17, 2017 Justice League

    November 22, 2019 Frozen II

     

    ^ No opening weekend listed under Twilight's $67 million. 9 $100 million + weekends. Seems like a date that has actually worked pretty well. Maybe I'm misunderstanding....

     

    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    1 minute ago, Eric Atreides said:

    The Flash and The Marvels are only a week apart from each other. I also feel like one of either Indy 5 or Black Adam has to move to the first weekend of August, because it just seems like a strange move for both films to come out the same day.

    - Indy 5 to Memorial Day weekend (May 27)

    - Black Adam can stay where it is (July 29)

    - The Marvels forward a week (November 4)

    - The Flash back to weeks (November 18)

    ^We've seen this setup work before, with a week between Marvel and WB tentpoles in 2016 (Doctor Strange and Fantastic Beasts) and 2017 (Thor: Ragnarok and Justice League)

     

    - Lastly, give Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom/Avatar at least 5 days of space. Keep Avatar 2 where it is (December 16) and move Aquaman 2 to Wednesday December 21. A good litmus test for this will be how Spider-Man and Matrix hold up in the same configuration this year.

     

    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    Just now, WittyUsername said:

    Aquaman 2 is the only one that I think may need to move. Everything else seems fine where they are for the time being. 

    I guess so. I'm not keen on The Flash and The Marvels being a week apart though. I feel like at the very least Flash should move to November 18 (same weekend as Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them,/Justice League) and The Marvels should move up a week to November 4 (same weekend as Doctor Strange/Thor: Ragnarok).

    The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other

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    10 minutes ago, excel1 said:

    HUGE MONEY FOR THIS TOO

     

    THE BATMAN BLACK ADAM FLASH ALL IN 1 YEAR?!?!? 

     

    No wonder WB doest give AF about 2021 profits.

    Have to think WB is going to do some rescheduling though. Like @Eric Atreides was saying it's kind of a mess right now.

    DC Fandome 2021 Discussion Thread

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    1 minute ago, VenomXXR said:

    The Flash tease did nothing for me. I was hoping it would get me interested in the film but yea, it's not there. Also, the Keaton nostalgia isn't anywhere close to the level of the Tobey/Andrew nostalgia (despite what I've heard on this forum from certain people.)

    Yeah nothing DC interests me except The Batman. If WB didn't screw up their DCEU it would be a different story. When it became clear they couldn't decide which direction they were going I totally clocked out.

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