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21 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
Off nearly 1m to below 50m
Date Rank Gross % Change Theaters Per Theater Total Gross Days Oct 14, 2021 P $4,850,000 2,950 $1,644 $4,850,000 Oct 15, 2021 1 $22,830,935 3,705 $6,162 $22,830,935 1 Oct 16, 2021 1 $17,324,690 -24% 3,705 $4,676 $40,155,625 2 Oct 17, 2021 1 $9,249,355 -47% 3,705 $2,496 $49,404,980 3 As soon as @charlie Jatinder reported the Sunday number I knew this was going to happen.
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13 hours ago, Let There Be Legion said:
Depth is a pretty straightforward lagging function of product releases. Sep 10-24 we're absolutely dire, which is the exact lag to manifest in a dearth of 1M+ in Oct. The October releases will fix the depth issue by early Nov.
This is a good point. Hopefully October is the first domino towards a deeper, more normal looking box office.
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10 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:
Ehh Avatar 2 is looking less and less likely to come out next year.
Yeesh. Avatar 2 was the last film I figured to move given the comical amount of times it's already moved haha. I would laugh if it was delayed yet another year.
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19 minutes ago, cookieleeann said:
Film Twitter's hate for Joker made me root for the film even more. I never understood the weird hate towards that film.
I think it was a virtue signalling opportunity. Rooting against Joker was like rooting against incels. It's insulting that people think that any struggling mentally white man is bound to go commit violence and it was insulting that they thought Joker would ignite that.
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23 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
Lmao Film Twitter is desperately trying to sell that the reason for the other Disney films being delayed is because Eternals is "going to bomb".
Boy are they gonna be surprised.
Lol, what a cesspool.
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The delay sucks for some of the other films but I will admit I hated that March 25 date since they announced it. I like May 6 a lot better.
Just realized too with this shift everything is officially a year later. Doctor Strange WAS scheduled for May 7, 2021, Black Panther WAS scheduled for July 8, 2021, Thor for November 5, 2021 etc. etc. Makes sense with Eternals bowing a year after its initial date (November 6, 2020).
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40 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
If I am not wrong, summer breaks start Memorial Day weekend and onward right?
We don't start getting summer weekdays till May end.Yeah I don't know about everyone in the States but I've NEVER considered May a summer month. Ever. Summer for me has always been June, July, August. My kids, and myself when I was in school, always get off school in June and go back the day after Labour Day. The idea that the first weekend of May kicks off the summer movie calendar is odd to me.
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1 minute ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:
October had turned into a pretty strong month for moviegoing in recent years, yet so far October 2021, we haven't had one weekend where the entire Top 10 has cleared a million dollars. There's a lack of box office depth, maybe it's entirely down to the product, maybe not. We do know that a quarter of Bond's domestic audience made the first trip back to theaters since the pandemic last week. If that's the level of event it takes for adults to show up, IMO that’s not the greatest thing for theaters.
Nailed it. The lack of depth is exactly what has me thinking the box office has sooooo much further to go to truly be back.
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27 minutes ago, excel1 said:
This is trailer oddly edited due to the prolonged changes of characters that come at odd times in the trailer. The Batman/Riddler exchange, Batman/Catwoman exchange, Batman/Alfred exchange, Batman/Penguin exchange 1, and then the 2nd one with the car. It isn't edited all that smoothly in the eyes of trailer experts, frankly. The footage itself is awesome, though.
WB is seriously starting to lose their edge when it comes to trailers.
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Honestly, I don't think any of us here can speak for ANYONE (well, except @Plain Old Tele I guess). For all we know the deal IS good and we're dealing with a group of malcontents on social media. None of us know. Porthos had the best advice which is to wait until we know the details. And even then, who are WE to say if it's good or not.
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1 minute ago, Plain Old Tele said:
Yes, in that case I hope those people become more engaged with their local leadership and that their leadership communicates well with them. In some cases I feel like some local leadership may not have managed expectations prior to any deal. I feel very comfortable with Local 700 at the moment but of course each situation is different.Great point about managing expectations. I work with people so that's something I do know a thing or two about and I know that management 101 is levelling with your workers all the time - especially in labour disputes like this - and not letting them get too far with their own preconceived notions. That's when you potentially lose them because they develop their own expectations.
So yes, communication and management is key here in the process, especially if you want to maintain the optics that you've always been in the workers' corner.
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1 minute ago, Plain Old Tele said:
See, some of that stuff is blatant fearmongering. Union leadership isn’t trying to sell us out. Sheesh.I don't know a damn thing about the business so I'm trying to do more listening and less talking but my 2 cents is you can hardly blame anyone for being paranoid given the level of corruption all over these days. The news is full of it in all sectors it seems.
Again, I don't know a thing so I'm not trying to argue that there is any selling out going on. I just don't blame people for being paranoid if they're looking at the deal and it's a long way off what was promised (again, I don't have a clue what was promised, just talking in a very general sense).
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Soooo where are we at right now in terms of likelihood of a $100M + opening weekend for this, based on presales?
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1 minute ago, The GOAT said:
How long before the conspiracy theories about the Union Leadership being Corporate Agents arises?
Well, it's not like unions screwing over their workers is unheard of.
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2 hours ago, excel1 said:
That feeling when you lose Chris Nolan, but you have Reeves, Villanueve, Chalamet and The Rock in your pocket. 😎
I don't think Villaneuve will stand for day and date streaming any more than Nolan did. He's pissed too. The Rock will go along with it. He's just a businessman, not an artist. Chalamet is a Gen Z actor so he too will go along with whatever is trending.
Not sure about Reeves. Hopefully he defends the theatrical experience.
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4 hours ago, ThePrinceIsOnFire said:
Saw it last night.
It was FANTASTIC. A timely tale of freedom, pride and misogyny.
One could perceive the "90's epic" vibes throughout, yet it still felt fresh and actual. The performances were nothing short of spectacular, with Comer being the highlight: it's hard to believe that she could miss the Best actress' nominations cut.
The last hour or so is pretty much a display on how to build tension and then reward the audience, an impressive feat by Ridley.
I loved how they used real locations in France and cut down on the CGI and fake sets, as it really helps building up that immersive experience.
The costumes looked absolutely great (Comer was stunning in all of her dresses), yet they were not exactly period-appropriate, which I think was a bit of a misstep, because this kind of "Old-timey" medieval fantasy clothing evokes more of a fairy tale setting than the realistic grittyness they were (otherwise) going for.
An other -minor- issue I had with the film was the lack of a recurring music theme, which I think would've greatly helped magnifying the movie resonance and legacy in the future.
Still, despite its flaws (it's a bit too long, and the POV narrative style gets tiring at times in Le Gris's segment) I would say that this is all-around (visually, thematically) the best movie of the year.
Please go watch it in a theatre if you can, it deserves to be seen on a huge screen!
I wish I could! Hopefully it's not long before I can rent it on demand! It looks amazing, regardless of the tough subject matter. I simply adore historical epics!
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1 minute ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
What are you talking about
Nevermind. It's not important.
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Just now, Val357 said:
Nooooooo! Apple? Yuck.
Though I don't blame him for being done with Fox by any means.
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1 minute ago, Ozymandias said:
Apple Studios is funding that one. I think Ridley Scott is done with Fox now after the Disney merge.
Nooooooo! Apple? Yuck.
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1 hour ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:
In normal year, King Richard would be huge. 120m domestic. HBOMAX cuts into that. To what degree, we'll find out.
Gucci and West Side I still think will be ok. Spielberg is dependable and it's a Christmas time release. Can open somewhat low like 12m but still leg out respectably. Gucci has enough young appeal and an enticing premise to have a decent 5day opening.
Soho I wish was A24. It's a hip, young genre Edgar Wright film but A24 is stronger brand than Focus. But maybe 7-8m can happen. It's dolby release.
Nightmare Alley is a big wildcard. Normally, I'd be comfortable in calling this a hit since it has dark, horror elements that sell well to different demographics and an Oscar campaign.
Licorice Pizza and Belfast are probably toast. PTA never has had a big hit. Blood is his biggest film with 40m. And Belfast is aiming for an old white audience that isn't rushing out to theaters. The 500 theater opening is a gamble. Focus did 580 with Card Counter (1m opening), 534 with Sparks Brothers (273.5k), 477 with Blue Bayou (329.8k) and 2500 with Stillwater (5.1m). With the Oscar buzz, Belfast should at least come close to 1m. Tammy Faye opened in 450 theaters and did 652k.
What does this even mean lol?
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2 hours ago, TwoMisfits said:
Adult movies will still be released...but there will be half as many with half the budget, at least probably for a little while.
In the next year or two, you may see these adult releases like we see supers ones - spaced and set for "good" adult-film going weekends. That's how you rebuild the market. Spotlight them one at a time, and get older folk "regulars" back in the habit (and keep the "aging up" ones through the years with the product)...
Family animated has pursued this strategy all this year b/c there hasn't been the real return of the family market, either. Since March 2020, there has been very little overlap of the animated/family movies and they have been spaced to try to get those who are going to see all of them, and not to pick and choose (and when there wasn't spacing, animated have sold off to streaming to keep the spacing)...
I like this. This is the way.
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28 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:
Lol, it isn't "horrid" for Bond.
"Lowest attended" really puts it in perspective though. I mean, this is Craig's swan song, the man who headlined the most financially successful set of Bond films ever. It's not horrible but this should have done better.
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12 minutes ago, CJ Chapek said:
NTTD's run has been disappointment after disappointment. Absolute trash.
Bond 2nd weekend drops
No Time to Die -56%
Spectre -52.2%
Skyfall -53.5%
Quantum of Solace -60.4%
Casino Royale -24.6% (Thanksgiving weekend so an obvious outlier)
Die Another Day -34.1% (same as above)
More or less in line with the others. Not as bad as the dreadful Quantum of Solace, which makes sense.
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20 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Yep, The French Dispatch is in 50 theaters next weekend and going fairly wide the following week.
Meanwhile, Neon will be opening Spencer in 1,500+ theaters on November 5 and Focus will debut Belfast in 500+ theaters the week after that. The 4 theater NY/LA platform release is dead as long as the specialty market still isn't coming back to theaters in large numbers, it seems.
From Belfast to Spencer, Top Oscar Contenders Open Big | IndieWire
Interesting. So this means only one wide release on the November 12 weekend: Clifford (opening Wednesday the 10th). I'm surprised one of the many October releases didn't get moved there for breathing room.
Eternals is going to feast in November.
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