Flamengo81

I think part of the reason it's not huge overseas is the lack of spectacle and darker tone of the movies. The IP is very strong in LATAM and Europe, but is very weak in Asia and this hurts the overseas tally and is not a coincidence it's weak there. The modern Batman or movies with Batman that performed proportionaly better overseas were the ones with more action and spectacle like TDKR, BvS and Justice League. If The Batman 2 can find a decent middle between it's overall tone and ground I think it could explode.

So... there was a problem with several showings today. Given the high distortion it's gonna do, I will skip today and count again when it stabilizes 😕

I think Gunn's Superman is infinitely more important for the future of DC, but having some wins in a row is very important to at least take back some of the bad rap DC has outside of Batman universe. It could be good for Superman to have already a better goodwill to work on when it releases.

TBH Batman is it's own thing, he does not need DC to be at a good place to go huge. The same goes for Spider-Man for Marvel, they are just they own brand at this point.

Not all the braggery in the world of WB can change the fact this is a movie set in a dead universe and with all the baggage it has of the DCEU. I think more important than the cold numbers is the audience reception and the goodwill it generates for the future DC universe.

It can have strong legs, but is still a superhero movie with some frontloading. I can see something like 3.2x legs with excellent WOM, but anything above this is very unlikely IMO.

I don't see this doing 800M unless it has unreal WOM. I think with a great WOM and strong overseas performance it can get to 700M range...

Now 195 tickets in the same 24 showings.

“The Flash” Greater Salvador Region tracking: T-08 SHOWINGS TOTAL SEATS SEATS SOLD PCT. SOLD 44 9209 226 2.45 % SEATS SOLD TODAY 38 COMPS T-08 Spider-Man Across the Spiderverse: 1.141x (2.01M) Yeah, things are indeed picking up after Spider-Verse opening. It has a full week of sales ahead, so if it keeps the current pace it should confortably gross more than ATSV, let's see what kind of late run this will have.

“The Flash” Greater Salvador Region tracking: T-09 SHOWINGS TOTAL SEATS SEATS SOLD PCT. SOLD 34 7968 188 2.36 % SEATS SOLD TODAY 21 COMPS T-09 Spider-Man Across the Spiderverse: 1.099x (1.93M) Sales from yesterday. Was the best day since day 1.

I will track this final burst of Transformers, numbers seem strong enough to be valuable to track it for some more data.

Was so tired yesterday that I fell asleep so I did not post Flash numbers yesterday, but I did counted it. Will post yesterday and today numbers in the night, but can already say that it was the best day since day 1 of sales, so it might have indeed accelerated after ATSV opening, let's see if today's numbers confirm this.

Are there any reliable numbers then? Because there is simply no "Official" relevant numbers regarding this subject.

Much bigger openings so not comparable.

Was ATSV previews 1.9M indeed?

I don't think international is the end-all, be all and domestic certainly is more important for box office, but I am not convinced that there is such a big difference and studios definitely give a lot of value to international values, especially since this demonstrates global power which is a indicative of other possible profitabilities like merchandise.

Sure. Will post here later at night.

Is the difference that big considering that this is not making any China money, so almost all of it's international numbers are coming from countries that studios have a share of 40-45%?

They were indeed. From what I can recall researching about this theme, that year was a huge anomaly regarding the difference between Spider-Man and the others. Normally he is indeed number 1, but with Batman much closer than what was shown there. Maybe it was because Spidey had a movie in 2013 and Batman did not. Also Superman is sometimes downplayed, but he is by far the number 3 as far merch sales go.

I have a link to merchandise sales of Spider-Man, Batman and Superman (and many other huge IPs) from 2016-2018, when I get home I will search and send here if you like. But on the top of my mind, it's something like 1.3-1.4B for Spider-Man, 900-1B for Batman and 500-600M for Superman.

I wish it was the Beach Boys album topping the charts.

People will be surprised when this behaves as more as a Greta Gerwig typical movie but on steroids than as a huge blockbuster. The WOM will not be good mostly due to people going expecting something completely different of what they will get.

I doubt it's going to get to the even mark, but it will probably close the gap. I am thinking something like 52/48.

I would not call TLM a huge success by any means. It's only great performance was in Argentina as far as I remember...

It's excellent in a vacuum for sure, but given domestic performance and how it could have made, it's mostly a meh opening indeed. The disappointment is more about the expectation and context than the cold numbers.