froztking
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"Always the same thing for years, nothing new, nothing interesting since Endgame, you have to know when to stop, even if there is easy money to be made." a review from that site ! wanda vison, werewolf by night, even she hulk was different from what they did b4! quantamania was different from previous ant man movies ! some of those reviews just look like hate comments post endgame there is a general hatred towards marvel movies and mid movies make it even worse
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how much did eternals do in france ?
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more than money ! they should make sure movie gets great reviews are those D+ shows have good views or reception there ?
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the issue is sub par movie after movie ! doc strange mom > moonknight > thor l&t > ms marvel > she hulk and now this ! even wakanda forever was above average as a movie !marvel is stuck between what fans want , what disney wants and what they can actually do ! ant man should have been in post production for ateast over a year to do justice to bring quantum realm into life but they spent just months and mad vfx artists overwork !
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even tom cruise isn't consistent
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now the question is will this even cross the ant man 2 box office ! they over estimated anatmans pull and then delivered a sh1t movie ! this was a movie they shouldn't have done a single mistake ! and they failed .
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for avengers to do well they need to set up properly ! if guardians 3 and the marvels are same sh1t then goodbye ! and they should do extra promotion in sk if they r sure with content otherwise they will loose even more
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less than WF ! won't be surprised if it finished with 15m$ ! ant man 2 did 42.4m$ ! more than 50% drop !
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marvels korean market is gone ! it would take another 5-6 yrs of great movies to bring back the trust ! which i don't think gonna happen ! this movie is a flop written all over it !
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true ! specially bringing him with kang is just stupid ! i can see modok's dumb cg face roaming on internet with 200m$ budget movie tags ! it will haunt them forever like she hulks twerk and heimdals sons face in thor l&t !!
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yeah lets see it then ! any idiot knows that avengers gonna loose in KANG DYNASTY ! who leads isn't even important ! that movie will have doc strange, loki, spider man, Deadpool , ant man ! screen time will be shared between them ! while kang having the most same as thanos had the most screen time in infinity war ! the set up for that movie will decide it's box office
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true ! same as iron man 2 ! iron man 2 mostly focused on setting up avengers ! ant man movie was so different from other superhero flicks ! it was mostly a heist movie ! and i loved it . ant man was a bad choice for this ! it should have been a small proper ending for ant man trilogy
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kang dynasty is lead by kang if i'm not ! same as infinity war was mostly thanos movie !+ loki,spiderman,doc strange, ant man and even deadpool will play major roles ! so i don't think the issue u said happening then secret wars wil be filled with cameos and comebacks, fan services etc. the rela test is phase 5 movies ! started from ant man which is now a failure ! guardians, marvels , loki s2, capt america ,thunderbolts these movies cannot fail critically more than commercially
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internet is gonna kill marvel until next release ! even hardcore marvel fans can't defend it now ! btw I'm hopeful about secret invasion because of MR .Robot showrunners are doing this too ! I hope it's good ! wish it can be what andor for starwars to marvel !
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
froztking replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
deadline expectation : "$35M-$55M" from China is this possible ? https://deadline.com/2023/02/box-office-ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-opening-projection-1235259534/ -
projections ! probably end up 30-50m$ short with this reviews ! unless china or sk/ other international audience liked the movie! the brand power made l&t do 760m$ ! but it costed millions in future !! many ppl almost left the hype train !
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d+ loosing subs was due to loosing the ipl rights in india ! those ppl were never gonna sub d+ cause of marvel or anything they were there for the cricket tournament
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you can easily see the budget and quality going down ! cahpek killed Disney's gulden goose to fill up d+ with content ! they literally overlapped obi wan and ms marvel while t&l released on theaters ! released turning red in d+ ! that idiot misunderstood the concept of streaming services with the subscriber boost they got due to covid ! disney don't have to drop dozens of tv shows ! they already got a rich vault ! 2 marvel shows and 2 star wars is enough for 20+ weeks + more kids stuff and family stuff !
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wakanda forever underperformed os because of l&t and she hulk reception ! if this is a stinker then it will definitely! already south korean market is down ! with dc coming up people got more choices !
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iger didn't push it ! in his last investors call he said they gonna be more focused on what content they make on ! she hulk, echo, agatha are all unwanted stuff ! even moon night ! 9 epi for she hulk was a crime in my book ! she hulk and thor singe handedly destroyed the image they built over the decade!
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true ! u can see the change from movie after movie ! eternals started it ! then multiverse of madness and thor l&t almost destroyed the mcu brand ! now the brand is at all time low ! they have to give proper critical success than commercial
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not lack of vision! they got the story setup ! one of the good thing in this movie is that road and idea is show and established well the issue is lack of execution and improvement ! now people are more critical of these movies unlike phase 1 or 2 where no critic really took them seriously and said they will fade away ! but now they are all in and marvel should do nothing wrong even gen audience are expecting more quality than just entertainment
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it's a mediocre movie ! not bad not good just mid with a great villain and good cast ! not at all the start they wanted ! if they up the game by secret invasion there's no way they gonna catchup to infinity saga! they have 0 error chance now !! and the marvels coming out this year ! if the movie is sh1t or mid then they better reshoot it !! loosing millions now better than loosing billions in the future !
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57 with 22 ! calm down guys it will take some time to settle ! it obvious max will be 65% worse well anything is possible
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that's the issue with those review platforms/ social media these days! unless u got some sure critics whose taste will align with u it's better to check out for your self !
