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Have mercy when Alex Garland is apparently too uninformed to understand why women losing the right to have an abortion or trans people being unable to access their hormone therapy any longer in states like Tennessee might see his "I'm just arguing about taxes with my right wing friends. Why can't we all get along?!" take on US politics as misguided at best and outright malignant at worst?

This is not what people in America are arguing about. This is why the movie is such a failure. He flat out does not understand what is at stake in America. Or he’s simply too ignorant as a white man to understand how dangerous it is for many people if the GOP takes power.

The funny thing is that putting in footage from a fascist and giving him a movie credit is about as close to being "political" as Garland gets in the movie. Not a good look for him! Seeing this movie will now forever be linked to seeing a movie giving credit to Andy Ngo.

Because if Garland made them allies he would actually be saying something political and can't have that in a movie called Civil War.

your various posts in here have made it clear you’ve made up your mind on this and love “both sides centrism” so nobody will be shocked when you love it

It's hard to get past because the entire movie is false advertising. The name, the marketing, the ads all tell a story that the actual movie is clearly not about. It's about photojournalism in war zones, far more than it about an actual civil war in America and how that would play out and transpire. Maybe that wasn't Garland's actual intention, and why he's so reserved in interviews on discussing anything, and was pushed by A24. I'm very interested to see the CinemaScore for this, because I think they are selling mainstream audiences a bill of goods that the movie clearly does not intend to deliver on.

The interview, much like the movie itself, says nothing. Garland has to go off record to say anything interesting. He doesn’t want to say anything, nor does his movie because he made a “civil war” movie scared about upsetting people. It’s hilarious that so many of the positive reviews out of SXSW are from liberals reading an anti-MAGA stance into the movie that clearly doesn’t exist. The reviews are imagining a movie that has something to say, when it has nothing to say beyond the fact that Alex Garland is a “both sides” coward and it should make everyone look more negatively on his previous work.

All the reviews, including the ones giving it 5 stars, make me want to see the movie less and less. Making a movie about a new American Civil War that avoids politics isn't you making some grand statement of wanting the audience to look in the mirror, it just makes you a coward. And considering how awful Garland has been on the media tour, it might be for the best he's a coward. Because the movie would probably be even worse if he did try to make an actual statement.

I don't dispute the origin and creation of the movie is probably banal. But the director and script writers seem fine profiting off Caviezal at least tacitly connecting his insane conspiracy theories to the movie. The amount of legitimately dangerous takes Caviezal is putting out while promoting the movie makes the creators complicit if they refuse to disavow him.

Caviezal has repeatedly connected the movie to QAnon conspiracy theories, including days ago on Charlie Kirk's podcast. Why should all of you defenders on this forum be trusted to know the true purpose of the movie over the lead actor? On Charlie Kirk’s show Jim Caviezel compares critics of QAnon to The Pharisees, who are opponents of Jesus in the New Testament.   He also says “It’s not QAnon. It’s Q and Anons,” which is a paraphrase of Q drop 4881. This is what all the defenders on this forum are deliberately trying to ignore. Caviezal is using his conservative media tour for this movie to spread conspiracy theories that can get people killed.

I wonder why the movie being promoted exclusively on right wing podcasts is political.

I still listen to old Kanye West music. But if Kanye put out a new song with some sketchy lyrics he was connecting to support for Hitler and antisemitism I would not listen to that music and I would give side eye to anyone who is consuming said music. That is exactly the same thing as Sound of Freedom where Ballard and Caviezel have used this movie as a platform, that on the surface seems like maybe it’s kind of weird but also anodyne, to connect the movie to their extremist views.

This comparison makes no sense and only shows the reaching of this movies defenders. It would only make sense if Miller was going on a press tour connecting their crimes to The Flash and using it as a way to promote and defend them like Ballard and Caviezal are using this movie to go on a press tour promoting and connecting Sound of Freedom to their views. Caviezel has used his conservative media tour for this movie to rant about “Rothschild banks” and the “global elite” trying to silence the movie and stop it from being released. He has defended QAnon and said QAnon believers are facing persecution like Christians in ancient times. He has openly connected to the Democratic Party and Joe Biden to pedophile rings and Satan. And he said on Charlie Kirk that “a storm is coming” for all who defend these things and are opposed to the movie. So I’m glad you know more about the intentions of the movie than the lead actor.

Ballard and Caviezal are both believers in Q-Anon, have spoken at Q-Anon conventions, have hung out with people like Lin Wood, and have directly connected this movie to those conspiracies when promoting it. The main group of people that they have chosen to advertise this movie to and promote it with have been conservative talk show hosts. You can't disconnect the movie from the politics, because the people promoting it have intrinsically linked it TO politics.

As a millennial who graduated high school the same year Crystal Skull came out, I have never cared about Indiana Jones and neither has anyone in my friend group. When it came out would have probably been the peak box office wise for Gen X nostalgia. It's now entering a market place dominated by Millennials and Gen Z and I think people vastly overestimated how much those generations care about Indy.