Dale Cooper
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1 minute ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said:
IMDb is fucking trash lol
Sure, if you say so. Still a way better measure of general reception of a movie than the cinemascore (at least for that kimd of film).
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12 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
What metric are you using to determine this?
That The Dark Knight is ahead? Look no further than IMDb really, or you can use any online movie site which does grading of movies.
About Maverick, you could probably make an argument for the best received Marvel films, but given the insane legs of Maverick it's hard to believe that any film in the past 10 years can have truly matched its WOM. I might be wrong there.
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12 minutes ago, AJG said:
I remember when that film came out, the idea that Inception was too confusing and too long was pretty common. The best received movie of that era would also probably be something more universal like Batman, or Toy Story 3.About it being confusing, that was part of the usp more or less. It had incredible WOM and great legs from a big OW. It had/still have great audience scores across all relevant platforms (never left the top 20 on IMDb). I don't think any movie of its decade measures up to it, either at release or 10 years on.
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32 minutes ago, thajdikt said:
A B+ for a movie like Inception is a very strong grade. You can´t compare the grade scale to cbm movie like Marvel to a movie like Inception. CS scores needs to be looked at in relation to the genre and movie type. NWH, IW, Endgame, Black Panther and Avengers all got the responses on the level on Maverick or better. Hell I would even argue the first Guardians
I know it is a strong grade. The point was to show that using A+ CS for Marvel movies doesn't really say all that much considering anything less than A would have been seen as pretty mediocre. Anyway, I absolutely do not agree that all those Marvel movies have gotten responses as strong as Maverick. You could argue that among Marvel core audience that those have as strong (and stronger) reception as what Maverick has across all audiences, but that's about as far as that goes I'd say.
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3 minutes ago, AJG said:
There’s a way to read CinemaScore which I don’t think you understand.A B+ for an adult-skewing original sci-fi movie released during the summer blockbuster season is good.
A B+ for a kids cartoon, on the other hand, is a disaster.
Eh, I understand it well enough. Inception's CinemaScore is still a bit weird when you think about it. It's pretty much the single best received blockbuster of the 2010's, and it got a B+. Anyway, the point then is that it doesn't really matter, does it? What does A+ for NWH really mean, if anything less than A would have been bad?
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8 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:
NWH and Endgame both have A+ Cinemascores
Eh, movies get their Cinemascore on OD so it doesn't really mean they're well received outside of the fanbase. For example, Inception got a B+ Cinemascore, I'd be hard pressed to say that Inception hasn't been better or at least as good received as any Marvel film to date.
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8 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:
The ceiling was not 20M previews. Come on now.
I'm not saying the ceiling was that. I'm saying that there's no reason that it would mde up ground on the Wakanda Forever comp (when it was already losing ground compared to it) just because it was well received as WF also was well received. If we are talking about it getting reception ala Maverick it could absolutely have made it higher, but that is wishful thinking.
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20 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:
All that shows honestly was that 125M was the "average" if the movie was good. Not the "ceiling".
But Wakanda Forever wasn't recieved averagely, it was well received. No reason to see why it would have pulled away from that just because it had similar reception.
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Just now, Lion Roar said:
At least half a dozen MCU movies have had that level of reception. Most recently NWH.
Not really true, though, is it? You could argue that the best recieved Marvel film(s) (Infinity War and Endgame) could rival Maverick, but amongt general audiences that doesn't hold true. The Dark Knight is on a different level alltogether.
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Just now, Ronin46 said:
17.5/106 around 6 multi. It could not have done 22M in previews even if its good? it was pointing at 23M after a while. Obviously reviews stopped that. I guess the debate is whether it had started to slow down before those reviews or not. But I thought 21/22 was very likely with a good not great movie. I dont think 125 was the ceiling. I think a good movie made that easily honestly. I could be wrong though.
I'd say it's relatively reasonable. By the time social media reactions surfaced, the Alpha comp had it at 22M compared to Wakanda Forever. That comp overindexed by about 8%, which would have made that 20.3M. Wakanda Forever then had great social media reactions and very good reviews, so it probably wouldn't have gained too much on that that. Let's give it 20.3M previews with a slightly bit better IM over the weekend (it wouldn't have made too much difference in terms of that the first weekend anyways) and we land right at about 125M.
Sure, if we're talking about Maverick or The Dark Knight level reception it could probably have made quite a bit more, but no Marvel film has ever had that kind of reception.
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36 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:
Didn't @charlie Jatinder say it could've opened $150M if it was received well?
It was never gonna open that high, though. It could probably have made 125M if it was well recieved, much more than that is just wishful thinking.
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Currently Shazan has sold ~310 tickets for today here. Avatar at 360. Shazam will leapfrog, but still, that is grim. Looking at max 15k admits over 5 day in Sweden.
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Incredible performance in France. I know Germany was more of a wildcard in terms of performance but I think France almost equalling the first movies first run (in admits) makes for the most impressive performance in any country.
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Didn't know movies could be embargoed when it actually have had its premiere in multiple places. First review I've seen in Sweden is not great.
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At this point in my town here in Sweden Shazam has sold 247 tickets in total for Wed-Sun. To give a picture of just how bad it is, Avatar had sold about 400 presale tickets for last Sunday on Saturday. I expected it to be bad but this is so bad it absolutely have to pick up (not least because the first one actually did decent business here).
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8 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
Can you share the source?
It's reported pretty widely. This one includes a quote from Walt Disney Nordic and Baltic
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Swedish news outlet reporting The Way of Water as the highest grossing movie of all time. Can't believe it made it.
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6 hours ago, eridani said:
I was using 25% weekly drop offs and got a 682 total. But is 25% unrealistic in the long run?
If it drops 25% from here on it is going to make more than 685 in the end. Even with considerably worse drops it will pass IW.
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Pretty sure The Way of Water has passed A1 run (in lc) includig re-release in Sweden. It looks like it will be a photo finish for it to take the all time record here. Should be at #3 all time first run already, closing in on second place after this weekend.
Hoping for a Scream breakout now, unlikely as it is. Should be good here from May either way.
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9 minutes ago, adaros said:
After mediocre numbers Ant-Man3 did in my area(central Europe) local IMAX dropped one daily show and placed again Avatar2 3D for upcoming weekend and next week. So going to see it sixth time this weekend in IMAX 3D HFR.
Same here as well. I'm also gonna try to squeeze it in another time.
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Looking real bad for second weekend in Sweden. Locally Quantumania seems to have sold about 187 tickets for tomorrow now. Avatar has sold 278. I knew Avatar would eventually leapfrog Ant-Man, but that fast?
Looking ahead, I think the movies in March will do pretty badly in Sweden. Would be very surprised if Creed did anything more than mediocre numbers (first one sold less than 20k tickets), Scream might increase from the last one, but that didn't do much here. Shazam I can't see anything but flop. John Wick is the one with the most potential, the last one increased sizeably from the second and if we can see a similar increase it will have a decent run.
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3 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:
How the hell was the last Harry Potter movie so frontloaded? It had good reception from what I've seen
It made $43.5m on midnights (when it was actually just midnight shows). It wasn't that it didn't make money after the first weekend, it was just that people really wanted to see it as soon as possible.
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Woah, that is bad. 70% drop second weekend might happen. If it doesn't stabilize the weekend after it might end up around Ant Man 2. At least it did decently good on OW.
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1 minute ago, kayumanggi said:
Why the big difference?
The numbers is just reporting monday number again.
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Nordic Box Office Thread.
in International Box Office
Posted · Edited by Dale Cooper
Yeah, it's partly because it has been even more impressive in other countries, but also partly because the exchange rate is worse in Sweden comparatively to the Euro-regions, Denmark and especially Switzerland (at least compared to when the first Avatar came).