Goffe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 And what makes you think that Dilma is worse than Aetius? Because the TV says? for the fact alone that Dilma and her actions, single-handedly, put the country in technical recession and Aecio government approval was 92% (Dilma goverment approval is 38%). Other than that, I watch the debates, I read various newspapers, I seek proposals of both candidates, I don't watch television and I take with a grain of salt everything I see in the political campaign, of both sides. Just for you use text from one of the largest manipulative media from Brazil AKA Veja, shows how alienated you are, and not worth time I miss in a discussion that will lead nowhere, open your eyes and stop being alienated by the mainstream media in this country how Veja and Globo. classic, accusing my sources of being biased, where's your source debunking all of my facts arguments? that's right, there is none who is the blind here? note: where's the apology for accusing me and Fullbuster of things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Why would I be ironic? I think you don't understand The Northeast is extremely poor, 51% of its 50m habitants receive the most famous assistencialist program, Bolsa Familia. The rest of the country pays for their loved "Bolsa Familia" and the like through taxes, how could you not care for the rest of the country? that's what I would call a parasite. with that said, I'm not saying the assistencialist programs should been banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) for the fact alone that Dilma and her actions, single-handedly, put the country in technical recession and Aecio government approval was 92% (Dilma goverment approval is 38%). Other than that, I watch the debates, I read various newspapers, I seek proposals of both candidates, I don't watch television and I take with a grain of salt everything I see in the political campaign, of both sides. classic, accusing my sources of being biased, where's your source debunking all of my facts arguments? that's right, there is none who is the blind here? note: where's the apology for accusing me and Fullbuster of things? If approval of Aecio was so good with 92% in the state he ruled, how can you explain his defeat to Dilma in the state that is supposedly so "beloved"? Marina won only because of Eduardo Campos here and Eduardo Campos was approved by only 64% at the end of his tenure here and had 38% of the votes in last search here in PE for president, but 92% to 64% is a big difference, do not you think? Explain that. Edited October 14, 2014 by MazeRunner23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Just for fun First Round: Dilma won in MG (Aecio state) by 4 percent Second Round: elections polls indicate Aecio with 57% and Dilma with 43% in the same state http://www.hojeemdia.com.br/noticias/politica/aecio-tem-57-dos-votos-mineiros-contra-43-de-dilma-mostra-instituto-verita-1.275267 Edited October 14, 2014 by Goffe R Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) If approval of Aecio was so good with 92% in the state he ruled, how can you explain his defeat to Dilma in the state that is supposedly so "beloved"? it was already explained I prefered Marina Silva but.... Aécio doesn't look better than Dilma. If the government of Aécio was so good in Minas Gerais, why Dilma won there? It's illogical . for the same reason Dilma won in the northeast by a landslide, assistencialist programs. Mais beneficiados pelo Bolsa Familia Em primeiro lugar está a Bahia, com 6 milhões, seguido porSão Paulo, com 4,4 milhões eMinas Gerais, com 4,2 milhões. Em quinto está oPernambuco, com 3,6 milhões eMaranhão, com 3,3 milhões, em sexto. http://g1.globo.com/ceara/noticia/2013/11/ceara-tem-o-4-maior-numero-de-beneficiados-do-bolsa-familia.html Besides, Dilma won by a very small margin in MG (Dilma 43,48% x Aécio 39,75%) plus, see the poll elections that I posted above Edited October 14, 2014 by Goffe R Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Just for fun First Round: Dilma won in MG (Aecio state) by 4 percent Second Round: elections polls indicate Aecio with 57% and Dilma with 43% in the same state http://www.hojeemdia.com.br/noticias/politica/aecio-tem-57-dos-votos-mineiros-contra-43-de-dilma-mostra-instituto-verita-1.275267 Too right as Marina passed Aécio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 it was already explained for the same reason Dilma won in the northeast by a landslide, assistencialist programs. plus, see the poll elections that I posted above Marina won only because of Eduardo Campos here and Eduardo Campos was approved by only 64% at the end of his tenure here and had 38% of the votes in his last search here in PE for president, but 92% to 64% is a big difference, do not you think? Explain that. Just for fun First Round: Dilma won in MG (Aecio state) by 4 percent Second Round: elections polls indicate Aecio with 57% and Dilma with 43% in the same state http://www.hojeemdia.com.br/noticias/politica/aecio-tem-57-dos-votos-mineiros-contra-43-de-dilma-mostra-instituto-verita-1.275267 The power of manipulating. I'm sure many people of Minas Gerais will vote for him just because of this search. Or not if they remember why didn't vote in first round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 for the same reason Dilma won in the northeast by a landslide, assistencialist programs. "Bolsa familia" and assistencialist programs you say wasn't created by Dilma's party? Why Marina won here and in Acre? And if you say Minas voted for benefit assistencialist programs, why Marina didn't won there with her programs which you say? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The power of manipulating. I'm sure many people of Minas Gerais will vote for him just because of this search. Or not if they remember why didn't vote in first round. you call manipulation, I call truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Mais beneficiados pelo Bolsa Familia Em primeiro lugar está a Bahia, com 6 milhões, seguido porSão Paulo, com 4,4 milhões eMinas Gerais, com 4,2 milhões. Em quinto está oPernambuco, com 3,6 milhões eMaranhão, com 3,3 milhões, em sexto. http://g1.globo.com/...sa-familia.html Besides, Dilma won by a very small margin in MG (Dilma 43,48% x Aécio 39,75%) So why Dilma only had 4.2M votes in Bahia? Why Dilma had only 2.1 votes in PE? Why Dilma only had 2.1M votes in Maranhão? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) you call manipulation, I call truth As true as Marina surpassed Aécio Edited October 15, 2014 by MazeRunner23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 "Bolsa familia" and assistencialist programs you say wasn't created by Dilma's party? because people, people like you, actually believe that Bolsa Familia was created by Lula, and that evil Aecio will ban all assistencialist programs of the face of the earth Why Marina won here and in Acre? And if you say Minas voted for benefit assistencialist programs, why Marina didn't won there with her programs which you say? can you make this question in portuguese, I honestly didn't understnad what you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 As true as Marina surpassed Aécio Marina started really well, but PT started a camping to trash Marina, and she dropped a lot in the polls and Aecio surpassed her in the the last polls before the end of the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) because people, people like you, actually believe that Bolsa Familia was created by Lula, and that evil Aecio will ban all assistencialist programs of the face of the earth can you make this question in portuguese, I honestly didn't understnad what you said Aécio won't ban all assistencialist programs, I know that, he isn't crazy. Por que Marina ganhou aqui e no acre? Se você diz que minas votou pensando nos programas assistencialistas, por que marina não ganhou lá com os programas assistencialistas que você diz que marina tem? Edited October 15, 2014 by MazeRunner23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So why Dilma only had 4.2M votes in Bahia? Why Dilma had only 2.1 votes in PE? Why Dilma only had 2.1M votes in Maranhão? lol you're starting to look like Sean B, do I have to explain how life works too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 lol you're starting to look like Sean B, do I have to explain how life works too? Explain me that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Por que Marina ganhou aqui e no acre? Se você diz que minas votou pensando nos programas assistencialistas, por que marina não ganhou lá com os programas assistencialistas que você diz que marina tem? Primeiro, eu nunca disse que a Marina tinha programa assistencialista. Segundo, Marina ganhou no Pernabuco por comoção, Eduardo Campos era amado pela população e a Marina, quando assumiu o lugar dele, era vista como uma perssoa simples, uma pessoa batalhadora etc. Terceiro, Marina ganhou no acre por ela ter vindo de la. Simples assim. back to english. Edited October 15, 2014 by Goffe R Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Marina started really well, but PT started a camping to trash Marina, and she dropped a lot in the polls and Aecio surpassed her in the the last polls before the end of the first round. What a pity, I wanted she won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Primeiro, eu nunca disse que a Marina tinha programa assistencialista. Segundo, Marina ganhou no Pernabuco por comoção, Eduardo Campos era amado pela população e a Marina, quando assumiu o lugar dele, era vista como uma perssoa simples, uma pessoa batalhadora etc. Terceiro, Marina ganhou no acre por ela ter vindo de la. Simples assim. This already is boring. Very repetitive. This discussion does not lead anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Explain me that. I challenge you. you can find an answer for yourself if you think hard enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
