Monday Est. Box Office MAD3 6.4, Prom 5.3, Snow White 2.7

[Walt Disney]

Tuesday BO looks like being MAD3 around 7.3-4m, Prom about 5, SWATH 3, MIB3 2, TA 1.6 & THG 180k

RTH with my TA numbers. I missed those yesterday. Sorry guys, but RTH is my regular dealer. He always brings the good numbers.

[Walt Disney]

I completely disagree. I think it's perfectly fine to say whether something deserves the gross it got or not. There's nothing wrong with thinking that a (subjectively) better film should have a higher gross than another. I don't believe Avatar deserves the box office crown because I don't think it's a great movie. So what?

So you're in the minority. Most people don't agree with you. Most people chose to see TA with their hard earned entertainment dollars over other movies and other forms of entertainment. That's purely what the box office reflects. It reflects the choices that people made with their money.If you don't think a movie is good, then don't see it. But to create this absurd position about how a person can decide what a movie deserves to make is beyond ridiculous. That's not what the box office is. The box office only reflects peoples' choices. If you follow the box office, you should be doing so strictly to see what movies the majority of people liked. Maybe they will like the same movie as you, but maybe they won't. However, every movie deserves what it makes.

[artist]

Tuesday BO looks like being MAD3 around 7.3-4m, Prom about 5, SWATH 3, MIB3 2, TA 1.6 & THG 180k

MAD3 (16%-17%)PROM (-4%-0%)SWATH (11%)MIB3 (25%)TA (14%)THG (15%)Good for all except decent for Prometheus. MIB3 is the biggest winner followed by MAD3.

[Jessie]

Well yeh you can't help but get excited for a 200m OW and a 600m domestic total. Doesn't deserve that much though.

Id disagree. If you think about it, Marvel have done a lot of preparation in releasing avengers. They have had to introduce thor, Iron man and Cap to the general audience who prior to release, they couldnt really care less about. They may not be masterpieces, but they are still good enjoyable well made movies so saying Avengers doesnt deserve the gross it has is a bit unfair as its taking 5 years and 5 movies to build up to the film.DH2 got its gross simply because of the books, so if Avengers is underserving then what does that make Potter???People dont seem to realise just how smart mavel have been. Their band of second rate super-heroes have topped even the most popular super-heroes. 10 years ago the majority of general audience probably hadn't heard of Thor or Iron man. Its hard to think that the highest grossing super-hero movie doesnt have Spider-man, batman or superman in it. Edited June 14, 2012 by Jessie

[Jessie]

So you're in the minority. Most people don't agree with you. Most people chose to see TA with their hard earned entertainment dollars over other movies and other forms of entertainment. That's purely what the box office reflects. It reflects the choices that people made with their money.If you don't think a movie is good, then don't see it. But to create this absurd position about how a person can decide what a movie deserves to make is beyond ridiculous. That's not what the box office is. The box office only reflects peoples' choices. If you follow the box office, you should be doing so strictly to see what movies the majority of people liked. Maybe they will like the same movie as you, but maybe they won't. However, every movie deserves what it makes.

The last airbender didnt deserve more than 100m

[Totem]

The last airbender didnt deserve more than 100m

TLA deserves less than Dragon Ball. What a waste of a potentially amazing franchise.

[Totem]

Id disagree. If you think about it, Marvel have done a lot of preparation in releasing avengers. They have had to introduce thor, Iron man and Cap to the general audience who prior to release, they couldnt really care less about. They may not be masterpieces, but they are still good enjoyable well made movies so saying Avengers doesnt deserve the gross it has is a bit unfair as its taking 5 years and 5 movies to build up to the film.DH2 got its gross simply because of the books, so if Avengers is underserving then what does that make Potter???People dont seem to realise just how smart mavel have been. Their band of second rate super-heroes have topped even the most popular super-heroes. 10 years ago the majority of general audience probably hadn't heard of Thor or Iron man. Its hard to think that the highest grossing super-hero movie doesnt have Spider-man, batman or superman in it.

Potter is the better film series and therefore deserves more than TA.

[Jessie]

Potter is the better film series and therefore deserves more than TA.

In your opinion it is, however its safe to say that more people prefer the avengers than Potter.

[Sims]

In your opinion it is, however its safe to say that more people prefer the avengers than Potter.

No it isn't. If The Avengers can match Potter's worldwide admissions over 8 films then it is.

[Jessie]

No it isn't. If The Avengers can match Potter's worldwide admissions over 8 films then it is.

Not all franchises like to pro-long their storys for 8 movies, so that will never happen. But so far, Avengers seems to be more loved. Edited June 14, 2012 by Jessie

[Totem]

Not all franchises like to pro-long their storys for 8 movies, so that will never happen. But so far, Avengers seems to be more loved.

TIH, IM, IM2, CA, THOR, TA. That is 6 films, with IM3, THOR2, and CA2 coming out soon, that will be 9 films.

[Totem]

No it isn't. If The Avengers can match Potter's worldwide admissions over 8 films then it is.

Exactly, the only franchise that will be able to surpass this record is Avatar which will most likely do it in $ and not in admissions. But Avatar will likely do it in 3 films which is amazing.

[Jessie]

Exactly, the only franchise that will be able to surpass this record is Avatar which will most likely do it in $ and not in admissions. But Avatar will likely do it in 3 films which is amazing.

James Bond will eventually do it, does that mean James bond is more loved than HP. all im saying is, Avengers is more loved for the time being, and judging from reactions and box office takings, id say im right. People seem to forget that Potter has always been second best in terms of popularity. its the franchise thats always been big, but theres always been something bigger, unless its a really dull year.

[Jessie]

TIH, IM, IM2, CA, THOR, TA. That is 6 films, with IM3, THOR2, and CA2 coming out soon, that will be 9 films.

They dont all centre around the same boring story, they are more like spin-offs than sequels so it hardly counts. Id bet that Avengers 1, 2 & 3 averagely will make more than the average 3 grosses of the potter series.

[Totem]

James Bond will eventually do it, does that mean James bond is more loved than HP. all im saying is, Avengers is more loved for the time being, and judging from reactions and box office takings, id say im right. People seem to forget that Potter has always been second best in terms of popularity. its the franchise thats always been big, but theres always been something bigger, unless its a really dull year.

If James bond managed to do it in 8 films then yeh I would say it is more 'loved' as you say. TA is more popular at the time being because it is in the here and now, it is more relevant and that is only domestic. Potter is still bigger than TA OS. If we are talking OS Potter is still king behind Cameron.

[Totem]

They dont all centre around the same boring story, they are more like spin-offs than sequels so it hardly counts. Id bet that Avengers 1, 2 & 3 averagely will make more than the average 3 grosses of the potter series.

Well release 8 TA films and we'll see if people decide to still tune in, TA cannot match the consistency of Potter, nothing has, they all fade away. Even Potter faded to an extent but it did finish the franchise on a big high.

[Jessie]

If James bond managed to do it in 8 films then yeh I would say it is more 'loved' as you say. TA is more popular at the time being because it is in the here and now, it is more relevant and that is only domestic. Potter is still bigger than TA OS. If we are talking OS Potter is still king behind Cameron.

But we are not talking about overseas, we are talking worldwide, in which avengers is king. What avengers lacks in OS gross, it more than makes up for domestic. What is it you are trying to prove here? Are you trying to say that Potter is the most popular franchise of all time? Lol

[Totem]

But we are not talking about overseas, we are talking worldwide, in which avengers is king. What avengers lacks in OS gross, it more than makes up for domestic. What is it you are trying to prove here? Are you trying to say that Potter is the most popular franchise of all time? Lol

I'm not trying to prove anything, I already made my point clear: Potter is a more deserving film than TA.

[Jessie]

Well release 8 TA films and we'll see if people decide to still tune in, TA cannot match the consistency of Potter, nothing has, they all fade away. Even Potter faded to an extent but it did finish the franchise on a big high.

They probably would still earn a killing through inflation, that's what happened to potter. It also had the advantage of 7 highly loved books, so the films were never going to fade that much, just like twilight hasn't. Also to say nothing has matched the consistency of potter is a bit harsh. Twilight is basically potters younger sister, it has consistency with every film simply because of its popular books. I'm sure if twilight had 8 movies it would have the same consistency as potter. Also look at LOTR, it increased with every movie and is likely to keep doing so when TH is released. That in itself is more impressive and only shows just how much bigger potter could have been if people loved them as much as people claim. .

[Totem]

They probably would still earn a killing through inflation, that's what happened to potter. It also had the advantage of 7 highly loved books, so the films were never going to fade that much, just like twilight hasn't. Also to say nothing has matched the consistency of potter is a bit harsh. Twilight is basically potters younger sister, it has consistency with every film simply because of its popular books. I'm sure if twilight had 8 movies it would have the same consistency as potter. Also look at LOTR, it increased with every movie and is likely to keep doing so when TH is released. That in itself is more impressive and only shows just how much bigger potter could have been if people loved them as much as people claim. .

If we are talking purely domestic then I wouldn't disagree with you entirely but I was talking about WW and I should have made that clear.Twilight might be consistent but ticket wise it hasn't been able to match Potter. NM sold 39 tickets, the highest of the franchise which is only more than DH1. Every other Potter film has sold over 40m. Not really the same level, Potter is superior there, but in terms of consistency they are very similar in $ film-to-film.